Luke Shuey and "the code"

[The Magenius]

...so says the Hawk 'Mongrel'...

Am I the only one laughing at the irony?

The hawks, the club with the coach who cries about opposition players and free kicks when they lose a close match, classy outfit those hawkers !

Clarko upholding the 'code' with dignity !! LOL

 

[HawkMongrel]

...so says the Hawk 'Mongrel'...

Am I the only one laughing at the irony?

 

[Tiff]

As opposed to West Coast players diving and ducking to win frees from the very first minute?

You can keep going back to that one. It's been done ten thousands on here already and it's cheap and easy.

Isn't the pont here that Scott threw his blanky out of the cot earlier in the year and named players in front of the media, yet it's not ok for a QC in defence of a charge to claim that Lindsay dived?

I'm sorry but if I was an opposition supporter I'd see the blatant hypocrisy that's been going on, and getting worse.

Also, can you honestly not see the constant crying from North supporters since the first time we played you, the week prior we played you the second time and now the week after. You seem obsessed with us.

You must admit that it's all a bit silly? No?

 

[UpForGrabs]

I've never said. The point is this was in the tribunal and not a press conference before a game.

So official comments in a tribunal are different to official comments made by a club's senior coach after a game?

The plain truth is that your senior coach came off the long run after the round 6 game this year and blatantly accused our team of cheating in a press conference. Might I add that there wasn't any West Coast representative there to refute what he said.

Luke Shuey goes up at the tribunal 9 weeks later and insinuates something about one of your club's players of diving, and there's a furore over it and North fans are angry that Thomas wasn't there to defend himself??

Please. Get your hand off it. There's no reason for your anger and there's no difference in the situations. Your coach fired a shot at our entire club, so we return serve at one of your players.

The sensationalist VIC media should be banging down the doors at Arden Street for Lindsay Thomas to have his say. They'll then paint him as the 'victim' in all this, continue to paint our entire club as evil (nothing like a paranoid VIC media when we're doing well), and things will go on.

 

[Max zero]

LOL, more west coast bashing on bigfooty, what a suprise.

Thomas is a serial diver, he took a dive to try and get a free kick in the last minute of the match, wonder where that sits in the players code ? If you dive all the time expect to be called on it.

Its a well disguised troll.

North fans know well their hypocrisy.

Archer is an idiot who can barely string two words together, who gives a shit what he thinks?

 

[Tiff]

Nice assumption there.

Hawks vs Eagles in 07, we're up by a stack and I've been celebrating every goal all game. Eagles come back to within a few points and these flogs up and to my left start hanging it on me after Hodge screws up in their forward line, I never even knew they were there ffs. 20mins later we're up by 30 and the game is done, I turn and wave to them with a smile. Their response was to leave the stand and offer to fight me behind the goals in front of a bloke with three kids sitting the row in front of me for DARING to respond to their crap from earlier.

You don't forget crap like that. And you wonder why I have a tainted view of WCE supporters. Instigated my arse.

Haha, again, you completely missed my dig.

I'm bored of arguing with a vacant brain.

 

[Spoon_Man]

You don't forget crap like that. And you wonder why I have a tainted view of Tasmanian WCE supporters. Instigated my arse.

Fixed for accuracy. No one likes Tasmanians

 

[00Stinger]

No it's ok because Dunn is a shit footballer and a shit bloke who was sniping Harvey all day.

The code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules..

Lol at the two above comments.

Its ok for north players to dob in other players, but if the roles are reversed its not ok.

The only reason this is even a topic is because of West Coast. I mean does anyone really care about Norf?

 

[Tiff]

If you wonder where we get the Victorian connection from, I'd say to you that it comes from the fact that it's basically only been the victorian clubs, media and fans that have been digging in.

Don't see many interstate supporters giving a shit.

Sydney fans have been awesome.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Umm, Shuey was facing the other way and wasn't actually looking at Thomas, so to make out he lined him up deliberately is laughable.

To say he didn't know exactly where Thomas was is what's laughable.

 

[Art OF war]

Actually, it was Luke Shuey throwing an elbow without looking where it might land that got him charged.

That sounds a lot like reckless rather than intentional!

For shame Tribunal, for shame

 

[Bunnie]

That sounds a lot like reckless rather than intentional!

For shame Tribunal, for shame

reckless rather than intentional... body contact not groin then suddenly it is a much lower layoff (still 1 week given Shuey's carryover points). The points system is still open to interpretation.

 

[jacko57]

Lol at the two above comments.

Its ok for north players to dob in other players, but if the roles are reversed its not ok.

The only reason this is even a topic is because of West Coast. I mean does anyone really care about Norf?[/quote]
Clearly, you do.

If I followed the Shemons, I'd focus on other clubs too.

 

[verily]

there are two points for debate here - the first being inconsistency at the tribunal the second being Archers opinion.

Firstly, the MRP and Tribunal are terribly inconsistent and in my opinion the incident deserved one week - its stupid and not a good look (i cite the judd v pay incident where high contact drawing blood from a look-away swinging elbow was not deemed sufficient force/jarrad waite look-away back kick to the groin of a richmond defender not sufficient force etc).

Secondly, Archers view is that players should look after each other - but pushing this to its full extent is having Thomas give evidence that there was nothing in it and that he was trying to milk a free (i cite campbell brown lying to the tribunal over the judd eye gouge). In the end it amounts to the same thing.

 

[HawkMongrel]

Haha, again, you completely missed my dig.

I'm bored of arguing with a vacant brain.

You think I have a vacant brain because I'm a wog, don't you?

 

[jacko57]

The plain truth is that your senior coach came off the long run after the round 6 game this year and blatantly accused our team of cheating in a press conference. Might I add that there wasn't any West Coast representative there to refute what he said.

Quotes where Scott actually accused WCE of cheating?

 

[Ron The Bear]

I know the tribunal isn't as strong as a court of law but why don't QCs try using precedence more? For example, if it was in court, surely you'd run the Judd elbow of Pavlich from last year and argue inconsistency?

Inadmissible, AFL needs its wiggle room for contriving sentences.

 

[laminex]

Meh, you guys called them divers in round 2 or whatever is was. They called you divers in the return game.

Archer needs to STFU

I dare you to say that to him to his face in the tone i read it in lol

 

[mufassa]

Lol at the two above comments.

Its ok for north players to dob in other players, but if the roles are reversed its not ok.

The only reason this is even a topic is because of West Coast. I mean does anyone really care about Norf?

You do know you are not in the bay? If I was Shuey I would be snitching right now.

 

[jacko57]

The plain truth is that your senior coach came off the long run after the round 6 game this year and blatantly accused our team of cheating in a press conference. Might I add that there wasn't any West Coast representative there to refute what he said.

Quotes where Scott actually accused WCE of cheating?

 

[Max zero]

You do know you are not in the bay? If I was Shuey I would be snitching right now.

So any North fans willing to comment on their clubs blatant hypocrisy?

 

[BlueTouchPaper]

Here's one I don't get.

I know the tribunal isn't as strong as a court of law but why don't QCs try using precedence more? For example, if it was in court, surely you'd run the Judd elbow of Pavlich from last year and argue inconsistency?

Because the tribunal cares nothing for justice and consistency, but rather pandering to the whim of the administration at any given time.

With that said, numerous other tribunals in the Australian legal system don't/aren't allowed to use precedent as a binding rule.

 

[Zahara]

Thomas must be a true Shakespeare fanatic, believing that all the world's a stage.

Quod fere totus mundus exerceat histrionem.

 

[Testekill]

Thread should be locked at this point and sent to the fail bin to save the OP (and Archer) further embarrassment.

Nothing saves Sweet Left Foot from embarrassment.

 

[Kcrack]

The code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules..

The next idiot that quotes this and calls me a hypocrite, please watch Pirates of the Caribbean and slap yourself. Gee this board is so uptight sometimes.