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You are determined to misconstrue what I wrote.
You said that billy concentrated on the male aspect and not his wife.

I implied that this was in deference to her reputation. He could have lashed out against her but he did not.
You inferred that I meant she was a ****. I did not and you could not reasonably infer that from my comment.
You should check the meaning of infer and imply before you use these words.
I don't think it was in deference the way he was coming a cross last night on TV. Either he worded it wrong, or he thinks she is his chattels and he is the sole arbiter of who she can have a relationship with, to soothe his self esteem.
 
I don't think it was in deference the way he was coming a cross last night on TV. Either he worded it wrong, or he thinks she is his chattels and he is the sole arbiter of who she can have a relationship with, to soothe his self esteem.
I don't think his perspective was so much one of ownership of his ex, than it was of the expectations and conduct of his "great" mate on a matter that is extremely sensitive to him.
 
I don't think it was in deference the way he was coming a cross last night on TV. Either he worded it wrong, or he thinks she is his chattels and he is the sole arbiter of who she can have a relationship with, to soothe his self esteem.

He was pretty upset talking about it and maybe his use of the language wasn't carefully curated by lawyers, PR consultants, and then put out in an anodyne press release.

What are you expecting?

And i don't think many people here would be any better. That's a betrayal, no contest. Bill has every right to be upset. If you haven't been apart long you do not expect your friends just to take the rebound and run up the end for a dunk.
 

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it's all speculation.

It's not an ideal situation, but sometimes these things happen for a number of factors we aren't privy to.
And sometimes they are just selfish and thoughtless people wrecking the lives of others.
 
He was pretty upset talking about it and maybe his use of the language wasn't carefully curated by lawyers, PR consultants, and then put out in an anodyne press release.

What are you expecting?

And i don't think many people here would be any better. That's a betrayal, no contest. Bill has every right to be upset. If you haven't been apart long you do not expect your friends just to take the rebound and run up the end for a dunk.
If he has been virtuous and faithful, then he has more cause to expect to be treated well. If he hasn't, then I guess you have to accept what comes your way. I guess the question is, has he been virtuous and faithful? I don't know of any indiscretions on his behalf...........
 
He was pretty upset talking about it and maybe his use of the language wasn't carefully curated by lawyers, PR consultants, and then put out in an anodyne press release.

What are you expecting?

And i don't think many people here would be any better. That's a betrayal, no contest. Bill has every right to be upset. If you haven't been apart long you do not expect your friends just to take the rebound and run up the end for a dunk.

Bill isn't a great orator at the best of times let alone under the type of circumstances of last night. He didn't mean anything by it and those who think he did need to get real. I'm sick of these female journalists in the herald sun picking the eyes out of everything looking for an angle
 
Do you know if it was done for that reason, or for other reasons?
No idea - but you have to be aware that for some people its all about themselves, consequences are given little thought and blame is externalised.
 
It's not an ideal situation, but sometimes these things happen for a number of factors we aren't privy to.

And have all your choices in life been to the positive of everyone in your life?

Factors, excuses...it's all the same. I don't know what excuse there could be that would pass muster. There is approx 4 billion of us blokes to choose from if a girl is looking for company. One of them is a close friend of the ex. But I better not go there. That would have been a good thinking at the time. ;)

What should a friend do when there is something like a breakup?
a/ support the friend
b/ root the the friend's missus behind his back


Oh, I've stuffed up royally in my time (not that bad, but). So I know. You learn.
 
I don't think it was in deference the way he was coming a cross last night on TV. Either he worded it wrong, or he thinks she is his chattels and he is the sole arbiter of who she can have a relationship with, to soothe his self esteem.

Maybe maybe not. He is upset by the breakup of his marriage, I cannot find a date when it happened but he spoke about it in I think July last year, we have all seen the transcript. Seems to be less than 12 months and if that is the case then they cannot be divorced as you need to be separated for 12 months I believe.
Reports indicate he was in regular contact with her so maybe he held hopes of a reconciliation. Who knows.
Regardless he would have been deeply hurt by the actions of his 2 best friends. How Hurt and grief indicates misogyny or considering his wife as a possession is beyond me. If the person his wife moved on with was someone else he would still be upset but without the feeling of betrayal that accompanies this situation.
Does anyone doubt that he discussed his feelings with Garry, the knowledge that Garry and Nikki would have been discussing his distress. How would you feel, I know how I felt when my wife left with the next door neighbour and friend.
 
I guess he shouldn't have used the wallet analogy then. As soon as I heard that, it shifted my opinion
You don't touch a bloke's wallet, bash his favorite chisel into a nail, put a dent into his new ute, steal the beer out of his shed fridge, rustle his cattle, or play up with his wife. I mean to say, a bloke's possessions are sacred, right?
 
I guess he shouldn't have used the wallet analogy then. As soon as I heard that, it shifted my opinion

Is he a polished confidant speaker. I give him the benefit of emotion on the night for some poor choice of words. Seemed genuine to me but I take your point
 

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What! The wives are bit players in the public context.

It's about one public identity betraying and lying to a very good friend who also happens to be a public identity.


The wives do not get a privacy card as they enjoy the spoils and if you google you will see hundreds of images of them at elite media functions. Come to think of it in many of those pics Nikki is facing Garry. Hmmmm
 
I guess he shouldn't have used the wallet analogy then. As soon as I heard that, it shifted my opinion
A bit of chest puffery from a hurt man. I'm not that worried by it. I have no yacht in this race either way.
 
Factors, excuses...it's all the same. I don't know what excuse there could be that would pass muster. There is approx 4 billion of us blokes to choose from if a girl is looking for company. One of them is a close friend of the ex. But I better not go there. That would have been a good thinking at the time. ;)

What should a friend do when there is something like a breakup?
a/ support the friend
b/ root the the friend's missus behind his back


Oh, I've stuffed up royally in my time (not that bad, but). So I know. You learn.


You do realise that Gary and Nicky were also longtime friends.

What if Gary and Nicky both chose THEIR friendship over Bill's friendship?

Is that not allowed?....Must the blokey friendship take precedence?
 
You don't touch a bloke's wallet, bash his favorite chisel into a nail, put a dent into his new ute, steal the beer out of his shed fridge, rustle his cattle, or play up with his wife. I mean to say, a bloke's possessions are sacred, right?
I would have spoken about my emotions, not likening the situation to something I owned being compromised. If this moron can't articulate emotions, then maybe that's a possible reason he's separated.
 
You do realise that Gary and Nicky were also longtime friends.

What if Gary and Nicky both chose THEIR friendship over Bill's friendship?

Is that not allowed?....Must the blokey friendship take precedence?

Platonic friendship is different from a horizontal tango friendship.
And I keep harping about the consequences to their collective children.
 
The wives do not get a privacy card as they enjoy the spoils and if you google you will see hundreds of images of them at elite media functions. Come to think of it in many of those pics Nikki is facing Garry. Hmmmm
The story is about the two high profile identities. The women involved are of interest purely because of who they are married to.
 
50% of marriages fail

Why do they fail

Well I think I'm qualified to think this .....we don't work hard enough on them

Love doesn't just sweep a relationship along forever like some magic carpet. You got to put work into it.

Just being famous or a top bloke or top chick won't make relationships last.
 
50% of marriages fail

Why do they fail

Well I think I'm qualified to think this .....we don't work hard enough on them

Love doesn't just sweep a relationship along forever like some magic carpet. You got to put work into it.

Just being famous or a top bloke or top chick won't make relationships last.
Most marriages fail because women cant cook properly or dont iron your undies after washing them.
 
Most marriages fail because women cant cook properly or dont iron your undies after washing them.


I did get a laugh out of that .........


Lol ......marriages require work and commitment


It doesn't take as much work to fall in love - it generally flows well early

But it does take work to keep it going
 
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