News Mackay re-signs for 2021 + Gallucci, Poholke, Crocker delisted

[FR0GGY]

When I said minimum wage, I’m suspecting well below the AFL average and certainly not enough to have any impact on our salary cap.

When we are self confessed busting at the salary cap seams, it all counts.

 

[CrowinNT]

I am not at all surprised by giving DMAC an extension the writing was on the wall
I am as ropable as 1970crow and his raging bulldog would be right now
Bad list Management

 

[BACCS]

I agree with you, but my main concern is we will keep picking him ahead of younger players. We saw it this year with Sholl, as well as Hartigan and Kelly over Butts and Worrell and Knight over Schoenberg (granted that was only one game).

I don't trust our selectors to stick with the rebuild.

Did the club not blood enough new players this year (most of whom played 5 games or more) to think that maybe the issues with selection are a thing of the past? Nicks and his coaching panel are a completely new setup and from what a few posters have said on here, players young and old love the direction Nicks is taking them.

 

[BACCS]

When we are self confessed busting at the salary cap seams, it all counts.

Who said that?

 

[GreyCrow]

Read 5 posts in the first 9/10 pages - wonder how long it took for the

"you know I was really angry at the club about Mackay, but having thought about it I can see what the club is trying to achieve " posts to show up

 

[FR0GGY]

Who said that?

Roo

 

[GreyCrow]

Not surprised Baccs is gobbing the club again

 

[Murray2503]

Roo mention previously that we are pretty much maxed out.

Bottom of the table, losing players left right and centre and a maxed out salary cap. Impressive.

Based on our ladder position and the quality of our list we shouldn't be paying out any more than 40% of the cap. Riccuito is predominantly to blame for all of it closely followed by Reid and Fagan. This is what occurs when you hand a completely unequipped dumb ex player the keys to a multi million dollar organisation to do whatever he wants with impunity from any responsibility for those decisions.

 

[BACCS]

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Faaaark me...

So? If you want to go abuse him on FB it’s free for you to do so.

 

[BACCS]

Not surprised Baccs is gobbing the club again

Classy response

 

[GreyCrow]

To Jordan, Myles and Ben - I am saddened at your departure but thank you for being a part of the AFC family

 

[Hodgy]

It’s strange, I’ve wanted Dmac delisted for the last 5 years, but this year I can honestly see the point of keeping him. When we were contending, him getting a game drove me crazy, but now we are going to bring 10 young kids into our team, along with 10 from the last 2 years, it makes sense. The one thing that Dmac unquestionably has is a work ethic and a brilliant level of preparation and team first ethic. These are all qualities that we want to instill in our new recruits. No one would be saying that Dmac is in our best side, but if our young stars can absorb 10% of those values off him then it’s worth it for 1 year.

The 6 players that we have delisted have all had a chance, but unlike say Ben Keays

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, they haven’t grabbed it.

 

[jackster83]

Did the club not blood enough new players this year (most of whom played 5 games or more) to think that maybe the issues with selection are a thing of the past? Nicks and his coaching panel are a completely new setup and from what a few posters have said on here, players young and old love the direction Nicks is taking them.

It was an improvement, but we did tend to go back to the older guys when we got a sniff of a win. We really had to get a few more games into those young tall defenders, particularly given we were pushing Harto out.

 

[1970crow]

Just like the start of 2020 yeah? Oh, wait...

Mackay played a month before Sholl's debut. Or do you ignore that?

 

[Pugsley]

Jesus Christ.

No just Mackay.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Mackay is well-liked in the playing group, apparently has elite standards, and had more of a solid year this year than most of our other supposedly 'elite' players.

What kind of message does that send other players? If we want to follow Richmond's example then we need to start building up 'role players'. This builds a message within the club that says 'you might not be the next Dangerfield, but if you play a role, and you bring effort every game then you will be rewarded'

It also sends the message that even if you're a former Pick 15, if you're not willing to put in the effort then it's to your own detriment, and you might be out the door.

Love this decision by the club.

Except Richmond have won 3 of the last 4 flags. Mackay's tenure at the club has coincided with a lack of success. I don't see the value in what you are suggesting.

Forgive me for not trusting the club's feelings on Mackay's value, and I say feelings because they have failed to produce actual data that backs up their high opinion of Mookay. Further his apparent elite standards and solid year count for little in such a shit and unsuccessful team.

The Club is all talk, walks around like it is a successful side, yet values processes and personnel that have not brought success.

Mackay is the most Crows player ever, 200+ games of BOG average performance, talked up like he is a champ.

 

[rocket18]

unbelievable. Let’s mix it up a bit. I made this one first time we re-signed him. Can’t believe I can still use:

You do some great work, thanks for your contributions - always brings a smile and sometimes even a guffaw.

 

[Brett Cummings]

delists gallucci and murphy is on the senior list. im so over this club making ret@rded decisions.

murphy is one of the worst afl players Ive ever seen.

 

[Pugsley]

Balme not a Mackay fan I'm told

The Footy Gods intervened

Doesn't have the hardness of Garry McIntosh. I can see why.

 

[feenix67]

I've never been a Mackay basher, I've even defended his selection on occasions (due to other players non availability generally) but this decision by the club makes no sense for a team that acknowledges it's in a re-building phase. Plenty of other "experienced" and good preparers outside of Mackay to set the example for the youngsters coming through so I'm not buying this argument being put forward by some.

I'd go one step further and say DMac is a BAD example. His re-signing is a reward for mediocrity. It doesn't show our kids anything other than be good off field, train hard, listen to your coaches and you'll be fine mate. It's the Campo creed.

DMac had a good year this year and I was happy for him. But this is about List Management and there's not one reason to retain a 32 yr old running backman on our list. Not. ONE.

I hope Gallucci gets picked up and plays 200 games somewhere, but even if he doesn't... even if cutting Gooch is a good call... DMac should have retired this season.

 

[Pugsley]

This.

Godden being SANFL coach would have sealed his fate.

 

[WetCrow1991]

I really hope the bloke doesn't have social media.

I'm sure he is fine.

Either he drinks the bath water and believes he is a champion as much as the Crows believe they are a successful club.

Or, he knows he is average at best and is thankful for having a high paying job for over a decade with people who clearly think that his shit doesn't stink.

 

[Hodgy]

I agree with you, but my main concern is we will keep picking him ahead of younger players. We saw it this year with Sholl, as well as Hartigan and Kelly over Butts and Worrell and Knight over Schoenberg (granted that was only one game).

I don't trust our selectors to stick with the rebuild.

We can’t honestly be critical of the club this year for not playing youth. There were some games when we looked like a reserves side, and it is a balancing act with players like McAsey and Butts to avoid them losing all confidence when they are being exposed on the big stage.
I think Butts could be a really good player, however the pantsing Harry Mackay was giving him against Carlton can’t be good for his long term confidence.

 

[Golumless]

Ah, there is the classic Adelaide ****ing up the easy decisions that we've become known for since 2017 (and probably beforehand).

Imagine being like "yo, we're in a rebuild, we absolutely need to retain a 32 year old whose embodied the word mediocre throughout his whole career". Just a terrible decision all round.

 

[Pugsley]

He'll be the worst player to ever play 300 games.

Kane Cornes will always hold that title.