Team Mgmt. Makeup of our team II - Strengths & deficiencies, player development

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Champion data said on SEN that Gresham and McKay are 2 of the biggest improvers in the whole comp. Gone from like 200-300th rated player to top 30ish or something.

McGrath's best season ever according to their data.
Martin has dropped from 22nd to 70th
Redman dropped from 29th to 174th

Also suggested moving Martin back up the ground, said his last quarter up the ground was huge.

Said Daicos was best on ground and 2nd best for the entire round. (Suggesting he should get the medal I think?)
 
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if we are going to get where we want to be, elite - competing in close games at the pointy end, we are going to need to cross all t's and dot all i's. No carrying players flaws, no allowing repeat mistakes - none of those heart in mouth players that we always seem to have - nows the time to iron them out before one of said mistakes costs us a final. Nik Cox, always heart in mouth when he has possession...handballs at peoples feet, lazy kick that causes turnovers - undoubled potential, performs a role but needs to go back and work on his flaws. Jake Kelly, undoubtedly performs a required role but dumb mistakes, freezes when in possession and is always rife for dumb 50s (Draper also on notice) Hobbs has little game awareness, misses teammates and gets caught, also plays for frees - go work on your craft in the 2s. Are we at the stage yet where we can be ruthless and ask for greatness from our players? If so some of this needs to happen so we can turn from good to great.
 
I’m still treating this year as a development year. It’s all about growth - players have to either earn their spot, or be doing enough to make it difficult to drop.

We’re not gunning for a flag this year. No point in compromising growth for short term gain.
 
TheUnicorn said:
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After last season ended with a whimper for Essendon, a host of the club's leaders embarked on an off-season trip to a world-renowned training facility in the United States. The result has been one of its best starts to a season in the last two decades. Here's a look at what the Bombers did in...
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colour me surprised that it was ridley who sought them out.

natural leader, what a person
 
Howard Moon said:
if we are going to get where we want to be, elite - competing in close games at the pointy end, we are going to need to cross all t's and dot all i's. No carrying players flaws, no allowing repeat mistakes - none of those heart in mouth players that we always seem to have - nows the time to iron them out before one of said mistakes costs us a final. Nik Cox, always heart in mouth when he has possession...handballs at peoples feet, lazy kick that causes turnovers - undoubled potential, performs a role but needs to go back and work on his flaws. Jake Kelly, undoubtedly performs a required role but dumb mistakes, freezes when in possession and is always rife for dumb 50s (Draper also on notice) Hobbs has little game awareness, misses teammates and gets caught, also plays for frees - go work on your craft in the 2s. Are we at the stage yet where we can be ruthless and ask for greatness from our players? If so some of this needs to happen so we can turn from good to great.
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No team is ever at that stage because the salary cap exists and all players have flaws.

By the time you’re looking at the 20th-30th best players on the team it’s about finding that balance between strengths and flaws and what strengths the team needs but also what weaknesses the team can cover.
 
TheUnicorn said:
Champion data said on SEN that Gresham and McKay are 2 of the biggest improvers in the whole comp. Gone from like 200-300th rated player to top 30ish or something.

McGrath's best season ever according to their data.
Martin has dropped from 22nd to 70th
Redman dropped from 29th to 174th

Also suggested moving Martin back up the ground, said his last quarter up the ground was huge.

Said Daicos was best on ground and 2nd best for the entire round. (Suggesting he should get the medal I think?)
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Champion data rankings have been bogus for years.
 
(2) KPF who did not play today; Jaiden Hunter (likely delisted), Nate Caddy (3rd tall / CHF played twos)

(4) KPD who did not play today; Zac Reid (injured), Kaine Baldwin (injured), Sam Weidemann (played two's, likely delisting candidate), Lewis Hayes (played two's and should be closing in on debut imho)


Time to make fitness of playing games the number 1 priority because forced to play 2MP is hindering us right now
 
shower thought of the day.

I wonder if Redman should get some CBAs. Now that Ridley is back we have our reliable defensive distributor and can play him or Cox or Kelly in Redmans medium defender role (or trial Hind/Menzie/Tex/ADJr)

Would add extra size to the midfield and another reliable kick into the forward 50.
 
jdstorm said:
shower thought of the day.

I wonder if Redman should get some CBAs. Now that Ridley is back we have our reliable defensive distributor and can play him or Cox or Kelly in Redmans medium defender role (or trial Hind/Menzie/Tex/ADJr)

Would add extra size to the midfield and another reliable kick into the forward 50.
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Didn’t we try this in the VFL at some point? Or was it Ridley?
 

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Where we're at, contracts wise and positionally etc.

3+ years: Jye Caldwell (4/5 years)
2 years: Jye Menzie, Lewis Hayes, Matt Guelfi, Nick Hind, Nik Cox, Jake Stringer
1 year: Dyson Heppell, Harrison Jones (trigger activated?), Jayden Davey (downgrade to RL), Saad El-Hawli

Delist: Jaiden Hunter, Sam Weideman, Tex Wanganeen, Will Setterfield
Retire: Jake Kelly, Todd Goldstein

Trade/FA:

1. Dylan Shiel for pick 54 (Geelong)
2. Kaine Baldwin for pick 51 (Richmond)
3. Tyson Stengle (FA)
4. Peter Ladhams for F3 (Sydney)

Leaves 5 open spots in the draft, 1 of which are rookie spots with Tex and Hunter gone, Menzie in a promote or delist year and downgrading Davey to the RL.

Draft:

Pick 15-ish (post Camporeale/Walsh bids): Jobe Shanahan (Bendigo Pioneers, 194 cm, Key Forward)
Pick 40-ish (bids, FA compo etc): Matt Whitlock (Murray Bushrangers, 199, Key Defender)
Pick 51: Isaac Kako (Bid match, Calder Cannons, 175, SF)
Pick 54: Austin Van Der Struyf (Claremont, 178/70, HB)

RD 13/14: Cam Nyko (Essendon VFL, 179/76, OM)
RD 30-ish: Jayden Davey
Cat B signing: Amin Naim (Essendon VFL, 187/82, Medium Forward), Jayden Nguyen (Calder Cannons, 178, HB)

Which would leave our list at:

Defenders (14):

Key Defenders: Lewis Hayes, Zach Reid, Ben McKay, Matt Whitlock
Medium Defenders: Nik Cox (MF), Jordan Ridley, Jayden Laverde, Dyson Heppell
Small Defenders: Andrew McGrath, Nick Hind (SF), Mason Redman, Luamon Lual, Austin Van Der Stuyf, Jayden Nguyen

Midfielders (16):

Inside Midfielders: Darcy Parish, Elijah Tsatas, Jye Caldwell, Zach Merrett, Ben Hobbs, Archie Perkins (MF), Sam Durham
Outside Midfielders: Xavier Duursma, Nic Martin, Archie Roberts, Saad El-Hawli, Cam Nyko
Rucks: Sam Draper, Nick Bryan, Vigo Visentini (KF), Peter Ladhams (KF)

Forwards (14):

Key Forwards: Peter Wright (ruc), Harrison Jones, Nate Caddy, Jobe Shanahan
Medium Forwards: Kyle Langford, Jake Stringer, Amin Naim
Small Forwards: Jade Gresham, Alwyn Davey (OM), Matt Guelfi, Jayden Davey, Jye Menzie (OM), Tyson Stengle, Isaac Kako

Seniors:

FB: Andrew McGrath - Ben McKay - Jordan Ridley
HB: Nik Cox - Zach Reid - Mason Redman
MF: Xavier Duursma - Zach Merrett - Nic Martin
HF: Jade Gresham - Harrison Jones - Matt Guelfi
FF: Kyle Langford - Peter Wright - Tyson Stengle
OB: Sam Draper - Darcy Parish - Jye Caldwell
IC: Sam Durham - Archie Perkins - Jake Stringer - Nick Bryan
TS: Nick Hind

Reserves:

FB: Jayden Laverde - Lewis Hayes - Luamon Lual
HB: Austin Van Der Struyf - Matt Whitlock - Dyson Heppell
MF: Saad El-Hawli - Jackson Hately - Archie Roberts
HF: Alwyn Davey Jr - Jobe Shanahan - Jye Menzie
FF: Jayden Davey - Nate Caddy - Isaac Kako
OB: Peter Ladhams - Elijah Tsatas - Ben Hobbs
IC: Vigo Visentini - Cam Nyko - Jayden Nguyen - Amin Naim - Xavier O'Neill

If Heppell doesn't play on I'd be looking for another medium defender somewhere. As a whole our current list balance spread wise is pretty good IMO, although another inside mid wouldn't go astray either.
 
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Yoda_ said:
im hitched to this cart now my friend
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FYI the other hobby horses still available:
  • players that tackle to hurt
  • brilliant field kicks
  • elite two way runners
  • big bodied mids
  • left footers
  • guys with tattoos

We have the following covered
  • private school boys
  • 180cm ish
  • followed Essendon as a kid
  • former top ten picks who need a lifeline
 
fairbump_playon said:
FYI the other hobby horses still available:
  • players that tackle to hurt
  • brilliant field kicks
  • elite two way runners
  • big bodied mids
  • left footers
  • guys with tattoos

We have the following covered
  • private school boys
  • 180cm ish
  • followed Essendon as a kid
  • former top ten picks who need a lifeline
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Gold.
Funny & true.
 
I think the difference to our success next year is going to be whether 2 or 3 from the 2020 to 2022 draft cohort can put together a season you'd say was worthy of a top 10 pick, which all of them were except Hobbs and yet he was touted as one.
 
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