They got quite a competitive list without looking a genuine flag chance I think ther work has been quite good , I’d be happy with any of these guys by sounds of it
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News Matt Clarke heads West. Replaced by Chris Toce
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Port cannot win because they are not good enough. That does not mean it is the recruiters fault. A few trades indicated a lack of patience for me. St Kilda have done the same.. doing trades instead of drafting. Whose fault is this??
It is hard to tell, who makes the decisions on what in team efforts I suppose.
I assume the Richmond crew have better intel and network to source the better credentials, Maybe the ex-Saints guy is linked to better picks on the surface but Richmond would probably have a better idea who was calling the shots about what
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Annoying that the Saints have just poached Simon Dalrymple from the Swans. He would have been a very good get.
Kinnear Beatson is the best in the business for mine, but I doubt we'd be able to shake him out of the Swans as he's pretty much their equivalent of Blair Hartley now.
Kinnear Beatson is the best in the business for mine, but I doubt we'd be able to shake him out of the Swans as he's pretty much their equivalent of Blair Hartley now.
When did that happen
Last month. The bloke they replaced (Chris Toce) is apparently on our list of people we're interested in.
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After seeing the players he got St Kilda the last couple of years I am not surprised. Guys like Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, Owen's & Windhager.
Yep. Was pretty brutal that they cut him, but I guess Dalrymple has proven to be one of the best over the last decade.
What picks has he been responsible for? Curious to see the good and the bad in his time
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Can’t recall this guy picking a decent first rounder and if he did it would have to be an arse. This is probably why he sold our early picks for two tractors.
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You can't remember because he never actually did. A drunken Hobo that slept on a $2 Herald Sun with Cal Tuomeys guide in it would've left us in a better position.
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It’s no coincidence that he & dimma have ****ed off within 12 months of each other
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The RCD pick...days were numbered after that, surely
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Higgins, Dow, trading our 1st rd to Geesook, the Taranto and Hopper fiasco and then Brown instead of Van Rooyen have all been woeful decisions. Greg Miller and Greg Beck couldn’t have done that bad.
Didn’t realize the recruiting manager was in charge of developing players once they were drafted.
We’ve drafted slow poorly skilled midfielders since the Anthony Banick days. Well before Clarke arrived . It reeks of fine eyes still having the reigns.
Clarke is awful. Very glad he's gone. Couldn't recruit a genuine midfielder if his life depended on it. Obsessed with flankers who aren't even rated in their draft year. Every year there was 2-3 WTF selections that never worked out.
They couldn't even dig up highlights for bunch of the players he picked on these draft shows because they were such wild out there selections.
What's even more crazy is people on this board praise him. His track record is shocking
They couldn't even dig up highlights for bunch of the players he picked on these draft shows because they were such wild out there selections.
What's even more crazy is people on this board praise him. His track record is shocking
And yet we still managed to win 3 premierships under his and Blair’s stewardship
Off the back of majority of players not selected by Clarke and the players Blair head hunted and traded for. He was elevated to lead recruiter in 2017. Look at the results since then.
He's that poor performing employee at your successful company you wonder how they still have a job. Everyone else drags him along despite his incompetence
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He barely touched the pill for Oakley and his stats were so poor for Vic Metro he was hidden in the fwd line and couldn't find it there either. His stats never warranted 1st round selection. He was only drafted so we could have a trendy tall mid like Bont or Cripps. Personally I'd rather one who can actually find the ball and wasn't soft as butter.
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Toce is a gun, very sad we let him go, even if it was to get Dalrympal.
Responsable for
Wilkie, Sharman, Hayes
NWM (Owens and Windhager were basically out of his control)
Phillapou.
He's a very good recruiter.
And yet was seen as a first round pick in almost - if not - all mock drafts, including Cal Twomey who had him going seven places higher than what we took him.
Per Twomey: The midfielder is something of an 'upside' pick – he's shown some really exciting glimpses, including in the finals series for the Oakleigh Chargers, but hasn't been a huge ball-winner at TAC Cup level. He's a tall midfielder who is best at digging out the ball and feeding it off.
So was always seen as a high reward pick based on upside and not the stats. Was seen to go higher than what he was taken. The no-risk, high reward midfielders aren’t ever going to be available at pick 20 in a draft. They don’t always work out, doesn’t mean they aren’t worth a swing. If you’re going to make selections purely based on stats Jack Graham would have been a top 10 pick.
Don’t think anyone would say Clarke’s tenure is flawless by any stretch, but to suggest that he solely responsible for how a players career turns out after he’s selected is pure crap.
Apparently Chris Toce was presenting today former saints recruiter had a big say in there young talent now.
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Saints part ways with recruiting manager after restructure
Chris Toce will leave the Saints, who have restructured their list and recruiting team
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