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On the downside teams march the ball out of our forward line with owies having absolutely zero defensive skills
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On the downside teams march the ball out of our forward line with owies having absolutely zero defensive skills
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Apparently told by Carlton to consider his options
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Sounds like Blues have a bit going on. Kennedy, Young and Owies all told to look elsewhere.
A rumour posted the other day was that Owies, Kennedy, Young AND Cerra have been told to explore other options. Would be an interesting off season to move that many senior players on
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Are Carlton going to target a small forward? I'm trying to work out who is going to kick the goals other McKay and Curnow
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Hoping Joe Berry. Would be better than any of our other spuds even if it would be his 1st year. I'm sure the club would have some options lined up for next year if they're moving any of these players on though.
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What Walsh said, but I’d add that Moir is a genuine threat once he has a full preseason under his belt
This one would hurt to lose for anything less than a 2nd rounder, but given you more or less got Ginnivan for free for that stupid Pies trade I’m not sure what we could demand
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For a club that is probably targeting a flag, I'm not sure that is enough
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Do think for a while he had an offer on his lap, asked Carlton to match or get near it and they told him to get stuffed. I think just a matter of who made that offer which I suspect we find out soon. Gut feel is it is Essendon
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I agree with you, Motlop is the other I see likely to lift but can’t see it being enough
Would hope we’d have something in the pipeline
Hawks have:
Watson, Lewis, Dear
Moore, Chol, Ginnivan
And Macdonald first rotation
That’s more likely
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They’ll try and build it out of Fogarty, Williams, Motlop, Hollands and hopefully Moir. It’s a massive weakness.
Durdin and Cottrell playing for their careers could become handy defensive options at best.
Durdin and Cottrell playing for their careers could become handy defensive options at best.
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Happy to give them Murphy and McHenry for a half eaten dim sim.
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Seems odd to let him go completely but Carlton fans should welcome him not being in first team plans next year. Reminds me of 2018 when Fasolo was probably our second best forward behind Elliott heading into the year, and the coaches just decided they wanted a completely different forward line and he wasn't part of it. We got smaller and quicker, and reaped the benefits. Moir, Silvagni and Williams and possibly Kemp will have supporters forget about Owies quickly.
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Blues going through a mini rebuild
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A good summation. Not a complete deadbeat but not what the Blues need next to Curnow Mckay etc to get the best from our forward mix imo.
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Think you would need to add in the half eaten dim sim to give that trade any value
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"Still out of contract, most goals from a small forward at the Blues in 13 years since Garlett. Brisbane has had some contact and other clubs interested." - Cal Twomey
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If Brisbane is an option, I'd do pick 17 for Matt Owies and a F3"Still out of contract, most goals from a small forward at the Blues in 13 years since Garlett. Brisbane has had some contact and other clubs interested." - Cal Twomey
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Pick 17?
There is no way Carlton are getting close to that for Owies. 3rd round pick at best
60 goals in 2 years.
See Lachie Schultz trade for precedent. Collingwood paid a F1 and pick 34.
Now that was way too much to pay, but I have Owies valued in the 20s with my proposal.
Oh and Schultz had kicked 63 goals in 2 years leading up to the trade.
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Carlton haven't offered him a contract lol. Lucky to get a 3rd.
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Schultz was a 15 disposal a game player and also had 36 goal assists in the previous 2 years
Owies is an 8-9 disposal a game player and only 25 goal assists in 2 years
Schultz is a much better player even with his down year this season and then you add in that Collingwood overpaid for him. Carlton showing so little interest in keeping Owies shows how little he is worth. 3rd round pick but probably closer to a 4th rounder
We've offered him a 2 year contract. Just hasn't been reported by Cal Twomey (who despises carlton).
So only 9 goal assists difference in 2 years? I'd say that's insignificant.
Touches aren't that important for a small forward. Tackle numbers more relevant. Schultz averages more so that's probably the difference in price (2.5 Owies, 4 Schultz).
Not saying their worth the same as Schultz. But to think he's worth anything less than a second rounder is just wrong.
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Pick in the mid-late 2nd round and id be happy
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