Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 2) - Full Support of the Board

[WaynesWorld19]

Yes, you open yourself up to scrutiny Bit rich though to then question others opinion isn’t it…

LOL ....you certainly can't say I don't voice my opinions ....and yes, if the day comes I'm wrong, you'll be the first to bring it up

 

[George Kramer]

I'm afraid George, you really have trouble understanding the process involved in an evolving team rebuild

You pay your money, so you're entitled to your opinions ....unfortunately you judge the players & team, each year on an equal basis .....you make no allowances for players age, or experience

You see the game as player versus player ....rather than as a team of moving parts ...a team that can tactically change with experience & addition of talent

Saying 2023 shows what we did in 2021 was wrong .....and the Coach is to blame ....is simply, a way too simplistic a POV

I’m afraid Wayne once again you’ve demonstrated your comprehension issues. Why you referring to 2021 when in the post you’re quoting I’m comparing it to 2022!!

You’ve made a lot of assumptions in there too based on repeated issues with your comprehension, I’m not going to rehash why you’re wrong all over again if you continue to fail to comprehend opinions.

 

[Danger in Texas]

In 2021 not as well, besides Tex most were youngsters and our team overall sucked.

Tex went close in 2022.

As I said Nicks changed the game plan to take advantage of our strongest line, but isn’t that commonsense? There would have been a riot if he maintained his slow gameplan and pushing the small forwards up of 2022.

No comment about Nicks originally intending to play Dawson in defence?

Identifying that a fast-paced gameplan is needed is one thing, but actually executing it is another. Reckon Nicke deserves credit for knowing how to utilise most of the players at his disposal (with a lot of players last year having career-best years)

The refinement at the selection table, and ability to close out high-pressure games, is the next step for him and the team

 

[LoBu]

The voting is nearly 2 years old.
Edit: Just checked it’s been reset and there’s zero votes for sacking.

Just shows how impatient posters here are, there's such a large number with unrealistic expectations.

When things are bad, it's all Nicks fault. When it's good, it's the players.

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[George Kramer]

Identifying that a fast-paced gameplan is needed is one thing, but actually executing it is another. Reckon Nicke deserves credit for knowing how to utilise most of the players at his disposal (with a lot of players last year having career-best years)

The refinement at the selection table, and ability to close out high-pressure games, is the next step for him and the team

You think he knew how to utilise Dawson prior to moving him into the middle?

 

[FR0GGY]

Just shows how impatient posters here are, there's such a large number with unrealistic expectations.

When things are bad, it's all Nicks fault. When it's good, it's the players.

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Depends, there were certainly signs of poor coaching and selection despite where the team was at in the rebuild.

 

[WeeBlake]

Depends, there were certainly signs of poor coaching and selection despite where the team was at in the rebuild.

Then get off the fence you coward!

 

[Danger in Texas]

You think he knew how to utilise Dawson prior to moving him into the middle?

Think it’s fair to say he was being ‘safe’ with that example. Was obviously a very good, very proven defender, so maybe got a bit too comfortable playing him back there. At least he was willing to try out something different when Dawson suggested the midfield move, rather than stubbornly sticking to his guns

Would many coaches have done anything different? Who knows, really it’s a ‘what if’ not worth thinking about

 

[Mostyn]

Think it’s fair to say he was being ‘safe’ with that example. Was obviously a very good, very proven defender, so maybe got a bit too comfortable playing him back there. At least he was willing to try out something different when Dawson suggested the midfield move, rather than stubbornly sticking to his guns

Would many coaches have done anything different? Who knows, really it’s a ‘what if’ not worth thinking about

I'm not interested in starting that debate again about how Dawson got moved into the midfield.

I don't think it's fair to say that Nicks didn't consider him an offensive weapon from day one, though.

He was given some midfield time very early in his career here, and he was moved back partly for his comfort and partly to be the quarterback setting up our rebound offensive from behind the ball. It wasn't like he was being instructed to be Jordon Butts.

 

[FR0GGY]

Then get off the fence you coward!

No

 

[Mostyn]

If we keep improving and the culture stays strong, then Nicks stays.

If we go backwards, then there better be a very good reason.

 

[WeeBlake]

No

It’s compulsory to have an opinion, preferably held with furious passion

 

[FR0GGY]

It’s compulsory to have an opinion, preferably held with furious passion

I’m not sure about that

But seriously he reels you in then something happens and it feels like the good work is undone.

 

[Soggy2112]

Think it’s fair to say he was being ‘safe’ with that example. Was obviously a very good, very proven defender, so maybe got a bit too comfortable playing him back there. At least he was willing to try out something different when Dawson suggested the midfield move, rather than stubbornly sticking to his guns

Would many coaches have done anything different? Who knows, really it’s a ‘what if’ not worth thinking about

I don’t know about coaches, but a lot of people on here being hindsight heroes claiming the midfield move was obvious.

We actually tried it round one in 2022 and he didn’t look all that comfortable. Majority of people on here (myself included) were calling for him to be played on the wing. Very few people actually suggested he be a centre bounce mid.

 

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Just shows how impatient posters here are, there's such a large number with unrealistic expectations.

When things are bad, it's all Nicks fault. When it's good, it's the players.

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I've also seen the same argument happen on here in reverse too.

When things are great it's Nicks and when things are going bad the standard argument is to claim that Nicks doesn't have the cattle.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I'm not interested in starting that debate again about how Dawson got moved into the midfield.

I don't think it's fair to say that Nicks didn't consider him an offensive weapon from day one, though.

He was given some midfield time very early in his career here, and he was moved back partly for his comfort and partly to be the quarterback setting up our rebound offensive from behind the ball. It wasn't like he was being instructed to be Jordon Butts.

Yeah we were still very much adding to our ball movement by slotting Dawson into our defensive six

I don’t think it’s a slight on Nicks for not trying him in the middle earlier, as he’d never (or very rarely) played in the middle at AFL level before. I do think playing him in defence rather than on the wing (where he’d shown form before) was a ‘safe’ coaching move, though. Having Dawson down back made us less prone to being scored on (in the eyes of the coaches, at least), but also less capable of generating offensive drive from the middle of the ground

Thankfully we found that Hinge could fill that defensive role (to an extent) once Dawson moved up the ground, credit to Nicks for identifying the right player in that instance

 

[Coopers]

It’s compulsory to have an opinion, preferably held with furious passion

That's not true, you can go through life being the blandest individual known to humanity and take no stances on anything

 

[Eddie Murphy]

To the people leaning no, can I ask what your passing mark was for season 2023?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

The refinement at the selection table, and ability to close out high-pressure games, is the next step for him and the team

Dealing with expectation will be the big one imho

We're now expected to make the finals whereas previously the expectation has been a lowly finish so anything resembling decent football has been heralded.

 

[Pugsley]

Yep agree

The problem is we went hard at Rutten and Dew

And next best available option was Bassett ….. which I’ve said all along for some reason Bassett will never be at the club while Roo is involved ( and maybe Nicks too )

Shame

It's better for Norwood.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Dealing with expectation will be the big one imho

We're now expected to make the finals whereas previously the expectation has been a lowly finish so anything resembling decent football has been heralded.

Good point

The whole 'one team that missed the finals the prior year makes top 4 per season, on average' stat gets brought up a lot, and it seems like many are picking us to be 'that' team this year. Need to just keep pushing the bar higher for ourselves, and deliver on it

 

[Jeffcrowe]

In 2021 not as well, besides Tex most were youngsters and our team overall sucked.

Tex went close in 2022.

As I said Nicks changed the game plan to take advantage of our strongest line, but isn’t that commonsense? There would have been a riot if he maintained his slow gameplan and pushing the small forwards up of 2022.

No comment about Nicks originally intending to play Dawson in defence?

I was one of 2 that thought Dawson should play inside mid so I don’t really feel a need to comment on that , talked up his midfield traits as early as trade period we traded him

I have no doubt that players such as Dawson Rankine ( and lesser extent Hinge , Milera , Michaelanny Soligo etc ) have added layers of class that we didn’t have before hence the evolution of our game plan

Very hard to go from worst in league garbage to highest scoring side in league without some kind of evolution

It definitely does prove that Nicks is no defensive game planned hack though , he was also well known at his short time at giants for working successfully on their ball movement too

To think it’s not a good coaching feat to improve our scoring so significantly is a bit of negative bias , of course he’s not solely responsible but definitely deserves some credit

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It's better for Norwood.

What’s he doing at Norwood ?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Dealing with expectation will be the big one imho

We're now expected to make the finals whereas previously the expectation has been a lowly finish so anything resembling decent football has been heralded.

Scrutiny on our game plan and of our individual players will be higher too

 

[Pugsley]

What’s he doing at Norwood ?

Director of coaching.