And got absolutely torched by Richmond.
We also got comprehensively belted by North Melbourne and drew with a very average Collingwood.
Lost our last 2 games of the minor round as well.
So as far as delusional comments go, you've taken the cake.
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We also got comprehensively belted by North Melbourne and drew with a very average Collingwood.
Lost our last 2 games of the minor round as well.
So as far as delusional comments go, you've taken the cake.
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Yeh, being favourites by the bookies just like Swans were similar heavy favourites (your term) this year. Were we $1.72 (Swans $1.77).
Look at the form going into the finals in 2017 and we were playing on their home ground not on Adelaide Oval. The bookies got it horribly wrong.
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Yes not sure how anyone came to the conclusion we were hot favorites. We should never been, we drew with a Collingwood side after being 50 points down early in the third term. You should never be in that position and we also lost to a Hawks side in R14 at home who were 17th going into that game.
We didn’t dominate the year but what we did do was beat up some of the weaker sides with big margins which inflated our %.
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No, the delusional comnent was pyke wasn't a good coach.
We also belted richmond during the year. So why bring up other games?
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He wasn't.
Longmire (not Longmuir) won a flag and had his side contending for the next decade.
Pyke got us to a GF and then set about systematically destroying the club and culture, failing to make the finals in his final 2 season, or even get close as well as seeing a bunch of fan favourites become disillusioned with the club. He should've gone when the fallout from the camp started to trickle out.... but he held on and denied it all until it was too late.
Matthew Nicks is not a good coach, and there is absolutely a level of arrogance in the way he goes about his business, but his strengths are Pykes biggest weaknesses.
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So, Hardwick should have moved on when? At a 39 total wins after 4 years (Nicks 36) or in his 7th year when Richmond came 13th? Despite a few shity elimination final loses he wasn't much better. Didn't have COVID to deal with either.
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I was on record at the time saying Hardwick did the right thing at the time leaving Richmond.
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After his success, yes but Richmond and Hardwick were on their knees in the 7th year of jack shit!! They survived I believe, and Hardwick rewarded them.
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Reckon you should check your maths, Nicks 29 wins, so Hardwick had an extra 10.
Then yeah sure, ignore the fact Hardwicks teams won enough games to make finals.
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Ok, I counted 5 years and still got it wrong.
. Still, I don't think it should be all on Nicks. It's just not that simple. I do think last year was a blip on the road to success, so agree there are no excuses in 2025.
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But you’re comparing the performances of Nicks v Hardwick and you used that to justify us sticking with Nicks.Ok, I counted 5 years and still got it wrong.
Now that argument doesn’t wash, you’re now trying to diminish the importance of the coach to the teams results.
Yeah nah.
As for this season being a blip, maybe 2023 was the blip? Maybe if Nicks hadn’t ****ed around with our gameplan we wouldn’t have started 0-4. Maybe if he didn’t make stupid moves like Pedlar on Steward or stupid selections like playing Smith to his trigger then dropping him.
The clubs clearly identified his flaws that’s why they’ve employed Davis for Nicks sixth season in charge.
Can nicks take credit for the culture among players - all highly driven, high work ethic, etc? We have drafted on character for over a decade.
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Yes, comparing because although I got the wins v wins (which you are so proud to point out), Hardwick was struggling and then in his 8th year he is a hero? 3 failed years. 3 failed elimination finals then flopped to 13th in the 7th year. If you go watch all his decisions in those 7 years, I am sure you could pick his game apart too. Richmond and himself were torn to shreds by the media in those first few years. Would you then get rid of him in that 7th year, or does he get a pass (in hindsight)?
Yeah nah.
It's fair to say most on here are frustrated but there is no evidence that some other coach would have been flawless in coaching the team through COVID and had any more success.
Identifying improvements in any organisation is pretty standard so it is nothing new to bring someone in. What they aren't doing is having a hissy fit like most on here, they are making controlled, balanced decisions which I think will lead us to the top 6 this year. When they do, it will be a collective effort, it's never just the coach.
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Controlled balance decisions that resulted in re-signing a coach after a loss leading to missing the finals again, having an internal review and the off field change which was made was some experience to baby sit Nicks.Yes, comparing because although I got the wins v wins (which you are so proud to point out), Hardwick was struggling and then in his 8th year he is a hero? 3 failed years. 3 failed elimination finals then flopped to 13th in the 7th year. If you go watch all his decisions in those 7 years, I am sure you could pick his game apart too. Richmond and himself were torn to shreds by the media in those first few years. Would you then get rid of him in that 7th year, or does he get a pass (in hindsight)?
Yeah nah.
It's fair to say most on here are frustrated but there is no evidence that some other coach would have been flawless in coaching the team through COVID and had any more success.
Identifying improvements in any organisation is pretty standard so it is nothing new to bring someone in. What they aren't doing is having a hissy fit like most on here, they are making controlled, balanced decisions which I think will lead us to the top 6 this year. When they do, it will be a collective effort, it's never just the coach.
Yes let’s compare Hardwick to Nicks, Hardwick more wins, made finals, yep there’s lots to compare and Nicks doesn’t compare.
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This post is far from controlled and balanced. You could learn something from the club, maybe Nicks too.
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What was inaccurate?This post is far from controlled and balanced. You could learn something from the club, maybe Nicks too.
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There’s zero you can learn from nicks. Unless your goal is losing.This post is far from controlled and balanced. You could learn something from the club, maybe Nicks too.
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Didnt the club sign Nicks prior to the GC game but left it to announce the week after because they had it down as a certain win?
The Hardwick comparison of his first few years to Nicks is incredibly misguided.
Nicks may well come out and coach well this season but it will be on the back of him having to justify everything he does. But he should never have got that chance and the jury is well and truly awaiting any evidence whatsoever that Nicks is the man to take us to the elite level. If he fails and we sack him at the end of this contract then honestly, all those on the board and the coaching panel need to resign. Its like the Titanic. The captain had the warnings in his hand, still decided to go full steam ahead and it wasnt until the iceberg was too close to avoid did they change tact. Basically the club never had the evidence and they are running on guess work. This will either be a master stroke or an utter embarrassment.
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100 points for an incredible imagination!
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You’d learn a lot more from him than the those having hissy fits on here. I do enjoy following this forum deciphering the toddlers from the adults.
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Nothing is accurate! You’re making assumptions based on limited info. You’re pretending to know more information than all of the experience at the club. Its laughable.
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Queue hyperbole……
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Where were you during the season when we finished 15th?Queue hyperbole……
It's easy to come crawling out of the woodwork now.
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Sounds like the crows are happy to get Nicks out of the club during preseason. Especially as he made us significantly worse last preseason. What a waste of money though sending that clueless idiot to Harvard when he will likely be sacked next year.
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