Injury Max Rooke - knee surgery

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Has to be wrong. Surely he has to be setting himself to start playing VFL in round 19, play 2-3 games and then get in the AFL for round 22, as Otto and Kelly did last year. Anything sooner than that would be ridiculous and would require us to guess as whether he is fit enough to play or not.

It maybe the case of having to get AFL games into him to assess whereabouts he is at. Would rather see us put at least 2 games into him, even if underdone just so he can gauge the pace of the game and maybe reprise a call up come Prelim or Grand Final time.

Obviously he is a long way off the pace at this stage, fingers crossed.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

It maybe the case of having to get AFL games into him to assess whereabouts he is at. Would rather see us put at least 2 games into him, even if underdone just so he can gauge the pace of the game and maybe reprise a call up come Prelim or Grand Final time.

Obviously he is a long way off the pace at this stage, fingers crossed.

Can't agree. VFL, and particularly consecutive VFL games, where you can assess how his knee deals with backing up and the next week's training, are where you assess players fitness, you don't do it out on an AFL field, because with the speed of the game now, if the player isn't fit you get hurt, as we did in round 5, and as we have n previous ocassions. As much as I love Max, I hope the coaching staff have learnt that you don't take unfit players in, and thus he only gets back once he's proved his fitness in the twos.

 

[Stan Van Gundy]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

I actually think out of the three small forwards who might be in line to miss it would be Byrnes. Lacks touch at the moment, and both Stokes and Varcoe have been pretty good recently. I'll give them a few weeks to sort it out though

Yeah agreed, I'd have Byrnes missing out of those 3. Stokes has been really good with his delivery inside 50 and looks more dangerous around goals than Byrnes recently.

 

[AM]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

He's a big occasion player so if he's fully fit he'd be in our best 22. Still vividly remember how important he was in last years GF win.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

The biggest issue for Max is that unfortunately because it looks like our VFL boys won't make the finals, they have only 3 more games after this week, so he's really going to have to get his skates on.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Just a thought: why the big push for Max? The re-emergence of Hawthorn. Rooke is a perfect fit for Luke Hodge.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Just a thought: why the big push for Max? The re-emergence of Hawthorn. Rooke is a perfect fit for Luke Hodge.

Not really. Hodge is playing straight midfielder this year rather than off the HBF and Rooke would not be up to running with him in that role and has not tagged like that in years. Ling/Bartel for that while Rooke provides a lead up forward as well as grunt inside F50.

 

[Vdubs]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Just a thought: why the big push for Max? The re-emergence of Hawthorn. Rooke is a perfect fit for Luke Hodge.

We thought that in 08 GF, but didn't get the matchup. Anyone but Stokes that day. I'd like to see Joel Corey line up on Hodge-good mark, good tank if fit.

 

[Vdubs]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

He's a big occasion player so if he's fully fit he'd be in our best 22. Still vividly remember how important he was in last years GF win.

Agree with his 09 effort, but I don't recall his output in 08/07 GF's being that useful . Max has to be fit otherwise is a liability and a passenger potentially. Can we afford to give games based on previous herculean efforts that were 11 months ago?

 

[oozeboss]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Max was great in 07 - remember the tackle he laid on some Power defender trying to bust up the middle of the ground? His intimidation factor from the start completely rattled the Port backs (and most of their teeth) & created huge holes which we exploited to the ... well ... max.

The Hawks won't quite make the end of season dance in September - my bet is that we'll be facing the Pies in the GF.

And Max just luuurrrrves crunching Pies!

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Agree with his 09 effort, but I don't recall his output in 08/07 GF's being that useful . Max has to be fit otherwise is a liability and a passenger potentially. Can we afford to give games based on previous herculean efforts that were 11 months ago?

I remember he laid a crushing tackle on some Hawthorn chump in the forward pocket and kicked a goal, but understandably I can't remember too many other positives about that f*cking game!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/rooke-takes-big-steps-towards-a-return-20100803-115fa.html

Sounds like good news...hopefully he can play next weekend and show his knee can handle it.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Have to be excited about that!

Rnd 20 VFL, then hopefully at least 1 senior game in the final round at home. I think you would just have to play him for the finals.....can see it happening!

 

[Boxhead_31]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

It's Ok Harry you can unleash the beast now finals are just around the corner

 

[James1970]

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Agree with his 09 effort, but I don't recall his output in 08/07 GF's being that useful . Max has to be fit otherwise is a liability and a passenger potentially. Can we afford to give games based on previous herculean efforts that were 11 months ago?

F*** Yeah!!!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Have to be excited about that!

Rnd 20 VFL, then hopefully at least 1 senior game in the final round at home. I think you would just have to play him for the finals.....can see it happening!

He'll get a chance in round 22 especially with the likelihood that we rest a few players from the seniors. The key is whether his knee can handle VFL in consecutive weeks before that and then whether his knee can pull up ok from a round 22 game. I'm still not completely convinced he'll be there in September until I see evidence that his knee can handle the loads of actual games of footy, but this is the best news I've heard about it all year.

 

[oozeboss]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

It's Baaaa-aaaack!

[queue maniacal laughter]

It's not our X Factor - it's the MAX Factor!

 

[Boxhead_31]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

I don't care what we have to do.

Spin blood, Calf's blood injections hell I'll even donate a lung to help with his endurance but we need to get Max up and about for finals.

Watching the game last night I couldn't help but notice how much we missed him.

With Max in the team we don't need to rely on Stokes and Byrnes being marking targets coming out of the backline on his defencive pressure in the forward line is something we are definitely going to need come finals time.

Duncan Kelloway and the Physio dept our finals destiny is in your hands please please please make sure the Max is available for the finals

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

This coming week is the 2nd last VFL game for us for the year, so Max really has to play if he has any chance of September action.

 

[jpod]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Well Maxy is listed as TEST on the afl site , so fingers crossed it wont be long now till the beast is out on the field..

 

[fpm84]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Well Maxy is listed as TEST on the afl site , so fingers crossed it wont be long now till the beast is out on the field..

Hate to be pessimistic but you would think if Max doesn't play VFL this week, his season's pretty much over... remember last year Otto needed 4 VFL games before returning to the seniors and unlike Max, he had a good pre-season.

 

[jpod]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Yeah maybe but i have my fingers crossed , coz we need someone like Rooke for the finals.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Hate to be pessimistic but you would think if Max doesn't play VFL this week, his season's pretty much over... remember last year Otto needed 4 VFL games before returning to the seniors and unlike Max, he had a good pre-season.

Max's biggest problem (and it's not his fault) is that we aren't playing finals so after next week we have no VFL footy at all, so if the coaches are going to select him for September based on only 2 games of VFL, that's a MASSIVE gamble on his fitness. I hope he can make it as much as anyone, but the schedule really counts against him, compared to what it would if there were 4-5 VFL games left for him to play.

 

[i_need_a_pencil]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Without a good to average level of fitness and game time as well, you'd think his normal negative forward role would be in jeopardy - can't really see him running and keeping up with the likes of Shaw etc.

And apart from that role, where would he line up - and importantly who would he replace and be considered a better option ATM.

We certainly miss his normal forward pressure and general Max Rookeness though.

Fingers crossed he just magically tears it up in the VFL!

 

[Vdubs]

Re: Rooke to consult specialist in the US

Yeah maybe but i have my fingers crossed , coz we need someone like Rooke for the finals.

James Kelly