News Media Thread, 2023: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

[TY24]

I usually don’t really care for what Summa says but it’s low key got under my skin purely cause Jacks not only been a whipping boy for our fans but also been a bit of meme for opposition fans. The amount of Freo fans that literally think he’s a spud is hilarious cause for years he’s the type of forward they looked for

Even in his current form, he'd still walk into their side and be their best forward by a significant margin.

 

[darksquare]

Put Hawkins, Danger and Cameron into our squad tomorrow and we're playing finals (well, assuming we didn't have the injury crisis).

So: put Hawkins, Dangerfield, Cameron, McGovern, Naitanui, Shuey, Yeo, Ryan, Cripps, Long, Hough, Bazzo, Chesser, Hewett, Cole, Burgiel, SPS and Harry Edwards into our squad tomorrow, and we'd be better. I guess - that's a starting 18...

 

[eaglespremiers]

Suma is still going on with it….


West Coast great Peter Sumich puts heat on out-of-form Eagles forward Jack Darling

28

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

West Coast coach Adam Simpson is being urged to make a powerful selection statement with out-of-form spearhead Jack Darling

28

Jack Darling

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.4

5star

, even with their lack of fit players.

Two-time Eagles premiership forward Peter Sumich went as far as saying Simpson would be better off playing “one short”, giving Darling just one out of 10 in this week’s player ratings for a one-goal, four-disposal performance in Saturday’s 46-point loss to Richmond at the MCG.

The 30-year-old has kicked 10 goals in eight games this season, and just five in the past five games.

It’s his lowest average goals per game since his debut season back in back in 2011, and is down on his career averages in goals (1.3 per game down from 1.9) disposals (9.6 down from 11.9) and contested marks (1.3 down from 1.6).

“I am giving Jack a one because he kicked one goal from a free kick, but I am being nice – he really deserves a zero,” Sumich wrote.

“I just don’t know how long Simpson can keep playing him, because he just keeps letting the side down and his coaches, who have shown a lot of faith in him.

“He is showing no leadership on the ground at all. I would drop him and play one short with no sub if Simpson has no other players to come into the side.

I would drop him and play one short.
- Peter Sumich.
“This would be a powerful statement to the team. My gut feeling is Simpson will play him again, but is that really the right decision for the team and player?”

Port Adelaide premiership midfielder turned outspoken AFL commentator Kane Cornes was also scathing in his assessment of Darling, describing his year as “poor” and saying he provided little help for young gun Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

.

“He (Allen) is probably going under the radar with the season that he’s having considering the team that he’s playing in and the lack of help that he’s getting,” Cornes told AFL.com.au.

“If it wasn’t for him they lose this game (against Richmond) by 20 goals. He kicked four of their first six goals which is amazing considering the service, the lack of inside 50s, the lack of opportunities.

“Darling’s having a poor year so he’s got no help from a key position point of view down there to help him out.

“I love it, he’s a young player I’m looking forward to watching for the next 10 years, just hopefully it’s not in a side this poor for much longer.”




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I'll just say this, not naming names, but somebody might be trying to protect their tenuous 20 goal lead as West Coast's 2nd greatest goalkicker. Just sayin'.

 

[ZergMinion]

Surely the jab stuff is water under the bridge. I think most people had a silly moment during COVID. To be fair to him, does the majority of people even get the vaccine anymore? They don't seem to have updated it for about a year, so it's not even covering current strains.

While I can't speak for people getting the jab (though I totally had a 4th a few weeks ago and that seemed to help stop me catching it from my son who had his second bout last week), they did update the jab a week after I had my omicron specific 4th, which means two updates in less than a year.

So going forwards it'll be like having a flu shot. People who hate catching flu/covid more than the jab will get jabbed.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Apparently the weekly rantings of idiots on Facebook and Twitter are worthy of a back page spread. (I’m just upset because my rants were relegated to pages 50 and 51).

Next week they’ll get their back page quotes straight from the Bigfooty gameday thread.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Some interesting questions this week.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Some interesting questions this week.

Can’t believe Keys and I both got our questions on, considering Schoey took two thirds of the time for himself.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Can’t believe Keys and I both got our questions on, considering Schoey took two thirds of the time for himself.

Well done I thought they were good questions.

 

[Grahame]

Can’t believe Keys and I both got our questions on, considering Schoey took two thirds of the time for himself.

Agree.

 

[Ishmael_]

This rash of negative coverage irks me, not because it's unwarranted but because it's late. And not only is it late but it's just noise - a total scattergun approach.

That's somewhat understandable for two reasons, the first being that journalists/media (especially local) value access - until the benefit of running with negative coverage is worth risking that access. And if you're ready to cross that rubicon, you better get your money's worth.

And secondly, our club is hopelessly insular and rubbish at PR. Instead of the club acknowledging real faults, things that can be fixed even without sacking the president or the coach (e.g. S&C, fitness, gameplan, list profile, rebuilding status), they close up shop - then quietly make somewhat significant changes.

Or that is what we are told (and I choose to believe). But why should a supporter much less a journalist believe issues have been identified, much less fixed?

Our messaging makes it look like we're running a clown show with no capacity to identify issues - and maybe that's the case! Regardless, it's understandable why everyone and everything is in the crosshairs.

Every club gaslights their supporters to an extent, but we have become elite at it.

Ironically, it was Cornes who was on the money when he slammed our fitness. His targets were wrong/unfair - but our fitness levels were terrible.


TL;DR

We've made a rod for our own back.

 

[Keys]

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Apparently the weekly rantings of idiots on Facebook and Twitter are worthy of a back page spread. (I’m just upset because my rants were relegated to pages 50 and 51).

Next week they’ll get their back page quotes straight from the Bigfooty gameday thread.

Is there a lazier way to write an article than regurgitating social media comments

 

[Rowan18]

This rash of negative coverage irks me, not because it's unwarranted but because it's late. And not only is it late but it's just noise - a total scattergun approach.

That's somewhat understandable for two reasons, the first being that journalists/media (especially local) value access - until the benefit of running with negative coverage is worth risking that access. And if you're ready to cross that rubicon, you better get your money's worth.

And secondly, our club is hopelessly insular and rubbish at PR. Instead of the club acknowledging real faults, things that can be fixed even without sacking the president or the coach (e.g. S&C, fitness, gameplan, list profile, rebuilding status), they close up shop - then quietly make somewhat significant changes.

Or that is what we are told (and I choose to believe). But why should a supporter much less a journalist believe issues have been identified, much less fixed?

Our messaging makes it look like we're running a clown show with no capacity to identify issues - and maybe that's the case! Regardless, it's understandable why everyone and everything is in the crosshairs.

Every club gaslights their supporters to an extent, but we have become elite at it.

Ironically, it was Cornes who was on the money when he slammed our fitness. His targets were wrong/unfair - but our fitness levels were terrible.


TL;DR

We've made a rod for our own back.

I was bemused as well until I realised it's because we hit the bottom of the ladder after Carlton flogged us. Footy is a weekly cycle - if a new club hits the bottom (especially a big club) then it is knives out and easy content for the week.

They've moved onto something else now. Maybe North will end up bottom and they can slam them too. They're also priming Carlton for another slamming, as they have a tough run coming up.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Jack is so strong in one on one contests that teams resort to mugging him.Borders on ridiculous sometimes.
Anybody notice how Barass is getting shoved in the lower back when he is at full stretch for marks. Bloody dangerous!

 

[THE A5]

Jack is so strong in one on one contests that teams resort to mugging him.Borders on ridiculous sometimes.
Anybody notice how Barass is getting shoved in the lower back when he is at full stretch for marks. Bloody dangerous!

A couple weeks ago Allir was man handling both Allen and JD and that was something that JD and Nic Nat would usually get done for if they did it.

 

[swingdog]

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Apparently the weekly rantings of idiots on Facebook and Twitter are worthy of a back page spread. (I’m just upset because my rants were relegated to pages 50 and 51).

Next week they’ll get their back page quotes straight from the Bigfooty gameday thread.

Unl;ess you're turning up outside players' homes, like PSG fans are at the moment, we haven't got an angry mob on our hands...

 

[ziad]

Jack is so strong in one on one contests that teams resort to mugging him.Borders on ridiculous sometimes.
Anybody notice how Barass is getting shoved in the lower back when he is at full stretch for marks. Bloody dangerous!

I thought it was my TV - its that obvious I guess.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Freo fans must be so confused. Every day The West has focused on the Eagles but it's all been criticism. Do they enjoy it or complain about it? Poor little guys.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Nat Edwards and Damien Barrett equivocating between booing a decision or incident on field and the prolonged targeting of a player is ridiculous.

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[Farang83150]

I hate Barretts guts but if the below came to fruition I'd have a giggle!

" I believe removal of national draft selections should be considered, no matter what the independent panel concludes"

BARRETT: Any 'end' to Hawks racism probe might be just the start

 

[amazingjoshy]

I hate Barretts guts but if the below came to fruition I'd have a giggle!

" I believe removal of national draft selections should be considered, no matter what the independent panel concludes"

BARRETT: Any 'end' to Hawks racism probe might be just the start

No spoon and still getting pick 1 would make the year worth it

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

No spoon and still getting pick 1 would make the year worth it

Would also make up for the year we won the spoon and got pick 4.

 

[Farang83150]

Can you imagine the backlash from oppo fans ..pure gold

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Is there a lazier way to write an article than regurgitating social media comments

Using ChatGPT:

Please write a newspaper article criticising the performance of West Coast Eagles, coach Adam Simpson, CEO Trevor Nisbett, the players (especially Jack Darling). Demand change from the top down, include quotes from fans upset with how the club is run and performing.

(Yes I am polite to ChatGPT, I can't help it, when the AI revolution comes, I want to live)

West Coast Eagles Fans Demand Change as Club's Performance Falls Flat

West Coast Eagles fans are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the club's performance this season. Despite a strong start to the year, the team's form has tailed off in recent weeks, leaving them languishing near the bottom of the AFL ladder.

Many fans are pointing the finger at coach Adam Simpson, who they believe has failed to make the necessary changes to improve the team's performance. "It's frustrating to see the same mistakes being made week after week," said Eagles fan Sarah Jones. "Simpson seems unwilling to make any real changes to the team, and it's costing us."

Others are calling for a change at the very top of the club, with CEO Trevor Nisbett coming under fire for his management of the team. "Nisbett has been at the helm for years now, and the team has stagnated under his leadership," said fan James Wilson. "It's time for a fresh perspective."

One player who has come in for particular criticism is Jack Darling. The forward has failed to hit the heights of previous seasons, and fans are questioning his place in the team. "Darling has been a liability this season," said fan Emma Brown. "He's not contributing enough to the team, and we need to see some changes."

The Eagles' lack of success this season has led many fans to demand change from the top down. "We need a shake-up at the club," said fan Mark Taylor. "The current management and coaching staff aren't delivering, and it's time for a change."

The Eagles have a proud history, having won four premierships in their 34-year existence. However, fans are concerned that the club is in danger of falling behind the pack. "We're not competing at the highest level anymore," said fan John Smith. "It's not good enough, and we need to demand better."

It remains to be seen whether the Eagles will heed the calls for change from their fans. However, if the team's recent performances are anything to go by, something needs to be done to turn things around. The fans are demanding it, and it's up to the club's management to deliver.

 

[Seadog]

While I can't speak for people getting the jab (though I totally had a 4th a few weeks ago and that seemed to help stop me catching it from my son who had his second bout last week), they did update the jab a week after I had my omicron specific 4th, which means two updates in less than a year.

So going forwards it'll be like having a flu shot. People who hate catching flu/covid more than the jab will get jabbed.

Likewise, had the new omicron shot about 6 weeks ago, since then have been to Bali where half the old friends I was hugging and on the piss with came back with covid and have had another close contact with a couple of people who came down with covid a day or two later. Either I've been lucky or the vaccine is doing some work. No doubt it will have it's evil way with me eventually but so far so good. Our gp calls us novids, not many of us left.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah my last jab in August-ish last year didn't include the Omicron vaccine, the one I had just before Easter did include that strain, so they're definitely updating the vaccine as new variants emerge.

Had the flu shot yesterday too. Cannot wait until it's an all-in-one shot we get once a year.