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To be fair the man had his intl career ruined by Clarke.
Well within his rights to be bitter IMO.
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To be fair the man had his intl career ruined by Clarke.
Well within his rights to be bitter IMO.
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No he didn't. Clarke wasn't even a selector when Katich was dropped.
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Would be extremely naive not to believe the captain would have the necessary pull with selectors. I can understand Clatke not wanting to play with someone he doesn't trust but I can also understand Katich being bitter over having his international career ruined because Clarke couldn't put personal issues aside.
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He was a 36 year old with a ruptured achilles who wasn't given a new contract. Katich wants to believe that all goes back to Clarke, because Katich is clearly a bitter individual unable to let things go. But the idea that the selectors and CA would not give a player a contract because the captain said "I don't like him" is laughable.
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The idea that his axing wasn't abrupt and questionable is also laughable. And it was a decision that made Australia worse and led to some pretty dark years. Whether you think CA or Clarke were to blame, it was abysmal decision making.
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I disagree. He was in form, yes, but we'd just been smashed in an Ashes series and he was in the middle of an injury that can affect players for a long time, especially later in their career. We needed to turn the side over and change things.
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I reckon that might have been propaganda from the Clarke camp. I doubt he actually really fought for him or if he did, he did it with full knowledge there was no chance of him being picked.
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Is there any actual evidence to base this on?
well, you can believe that if you want. But Arthur was pretty clear on it, Clarke did not want Hughes dropped (this was post the NZ series), and then wanted Katich picked. But obviously Cowan was on hot streak at the time
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No evidence at all. Just my thoughts.
Tell you want, it's gonna be so fun when Clarke actually finally talks about Katich
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Bar his slip ups with the Ashes tour diary, which I think can be put down to the fact he spoke into a Dictaphone at the end of each day and him letting his guard down, I doubt we will hear anything. He doesn't like to let his guard down with the media and after the back tracking he did from the Ashes diary, I doubt he will ever speak out like that again.
I got given that for Christmas, haven't read it yet; what things does he let slip in it?
And yet people has no problems believing that Waugh and Ponting killed off plenty of careers because they didn't like people.
Clarke ended his career; it's obvious, and it is what it is.
And yet people has no problems believing that Waugh and Ponting killed off plenty of careers because they didn't like people.
Clarke ended his career; it's obvious, and it is what it is.
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Did that ever happen? I can't recall it. Could be wrong but nothing immediately springs to mind. Scott Muller maybe but that's about it.
Slater for Waugh and maybe Hauritz for Ponting are the only guys I can think of. (guys who were in the team for longer than a couple of tests, anyway). Waugh was a selector for part of his captaincy reign though, Ponting wasn't. The way the Slater thing went down is a blackmark against Waugh, I can't see how anyone can dispute that. He was essentially dropped because his marriage fell apart. The Haurtiz dropping is still a mystery. There's been no real leaks regarding what on earth went on there.
There are plenty of stories about Slater and his extra curricular activities back then. Slater himself has stated that he took his eyes off playing the game. Not sure how you can categorically state that he was dropper because his marriage fell apart.
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Yeah Slats was coming off the rails and wasn't making runs. Not sure you can argue he was dropped because Tugga didn't like him.
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Dude needs to write his book, tell us what made him commit Assualt, and get over it.
People need to stop asking him about it, and he needs to stop taking the bait. Such a bitter man.
He doesn't seem bitter at all.
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He is mate when he has petty pot shots like saying I can't get the fake tan off my hands and telling someone they are okay as Michael Clarke isn't behind their back.
That is bitter whatever way you want to twist it.
Whether the bitterness is justified or not is a different story.
Katich for PM. He needs to choke Clarke a second time
Katich had made one 50 in his last 10 innings when he was dropped. He wasn't in form. He also wasn't bowling. In his last two tests, England had put up 1/513 and 5/620 - and Katich didn't bowl a ball.
Watson was making runs as the other opener, and the other batsmen were Ponting (legend), Clarke (good form), Hussey (good form) and North (they dropped him too).
North was bowling quite a bit (20 overs in the first test, 18 in the 2nd) - he was preferred to Katich as the 2nd spinner. They brought in Smith (remember when Smith was thought to be a leggie?) and Hughes (who was always going to get another go). After being slaughtered by an innings and plenty, there were always going to be changes made to the side.
In hindsight, they should have dropped Ponting - his form was gone.
Watson was making runs as the other opener, and the other batsmen were Ponting (legend), Clarke (good form), Hussey (good form) and North (they dropped him too).
North was bowling quite a bit (20 overs in the first test, 18 in the 2nd) - he was preferred to Katich as the 2nd spinner. They brought in Smith (remember when Smith was thought to be a leggie?) and Hughes (who was always going to get another go). After being slaughtered by an innings and plenty, there were always going to be changes made to the side.
In hindsight, they should have dropped Ponting - his form was gone.
Yep. To use a Gerard Whateley-ism there was a big appetite for change and naturally it was going to be easiest to drop an older guy. Of the older guys in the team, whilst Katich was popular and had a bit of a cult following going he wasn't a certified legend in the way Ponting was and nor had he been the only batsman in the team to be able to hold his head up high in that Ashes like Hussey could.
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Geez there are some uptight people about. Whatever Katich's true feelings are, both comments were made in light hearted manner. He was taling the piss, not having a go as his bitterness took over. ****s sake.
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