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Midfield structure - your theories
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Same midfield as me except that Masten is Reilly (66 87 74) little bit older body and no chance of getting a tag.
Lets hope Anthony has another cracker this weekend, will make DT alot easier if he gets going in the season proper. Not sure whether to pick Robinson or Davenport atm.
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Yeah, just hang on a tick.
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If all goes to plan Cartman, that strategy also has some merit. But can't personally see it being overly successful.
So where are you getting your value from?
- Nov 24, 2007
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Hmm. Is that a trick question? Myself?
It was my opinion on the matter. Wasn't planning to come across as knowing the perfect structure if that's the message you're trying to get across. Nothing wrong with expressing your opinion on a particular matter.
I am not going to spend too much on the midfielders for the following reasons..
There are more midfielders than any other position
There are plenty of midfielders that are under valued
There are only a limited number of players in other positions that are undervalued
I'm going to have one midfielder over $400 000
There are more midfielders than any other position
There are plenty of midfielders that are under valued
There are only a limited number of players in other positions that are undervalued
I'm going to have one midfielder over $400 000
Your not looking hard enough, i can't fit them all in.
Stocked up my midfield
Ablett
Corey
Kornes
S. Tuck
Gibbs
Rich
so will just need to upgrade Rich to Bartel
I'm not sure if this is a good strategy, feel i could be missing something here.
But my fwd and backline has 7 definite keepers (on past form) and 2 potential keepers. So my trading focus will be on 5 cash cows from the fwd and backs and just hoping i can upgrade Rich.
Ablett
Corey
Kornes
S. Tuck
Gibbs
Rich
so will just need to upgrade Rich to Bartel
I'm not sure if this is a good strategy, feel i could be missing something here.
But my fwd and backline has 7 definite keepers (on past form) and 2 potential keepers. So my trading focus will be on 5 cash cows from the fwd and backs and just hoping i can upgrade Rich.
I've gone for smokies off the bench, locked in one back and forward under $200k and used some dollars in the ''engine room''!
Mids:
Judd, Gibbs, Cuz, Kerr, J Selwood and Butler : Bench Rich and Sidebottom.
Rucks: Cox and Hille : Bench Jacobs and Pike
Mids:
Judd, Gibbs, Cuz, Kerr, J Selwood and Butler : Bench Rich and Sidebottom.
Rucks: Cox and Hille : Bench Jacobs and Pike
Thats about $2.3m on 6 players
I thought I spent abit much on my forwards spending $2.2m on 7 players.
You need to save about $300k on your midfield IMO or I see the rest of your side suffering.
Some good choices however again I see the rest of your side lacking those out and out premiums. Thats alot of money on rucks and midfield.
Keen to see your forwards and backs. You could perhaps manage that side if your bench didnt carry so much aswell (Extra $65k on 86kers)
My advice is look at what your team is now, look where you would like it to be. Make sure you get a minimum of 10 of those end players in your team. Ideally though you want 12-13 of those players. Also be realistic in how many trades it will take you to reach your desired team. If you need more than 15 trades your team needs reshuffling. You will use 5 trades on injuries or perhaps a sideways trade to a star about to go up in value (Palmer, Stevens, Hill, Rioli of last year).
Mine has 12 out and out keepers.
400k+ Premium
Anyone from 350k+ your picking them as a keeper, these are your breakout and improves generally (Gibbs/Goddard are examples). If you dont expect to keep them then dont pick them. These should make the bottom end of each area come the end of season. Backs youd want an 80+avg, Midfielders 95-100+ Forwards 85-90+. If you dont feel they can make it dont pick them.
300-350k I find this territory dangerous. Unless you see them as a Nick Stevens I feel these are unlikely to become keepers. So your spending alot on ones you'll likely upgrade. These players need to improve 10-15ppg minimum to warrant selection if you dont see that dont pick them. If you do then you could well find a direct swap to a fallen premium. SImilar to playing rookies it could go the otherway with them maintaining their average or worse and you would have been better off just getting a keeper in their place from the start except now your losing probably 1.5 trades. Plan on 1.25 trades per player in this category.
200-300k - Returning from Injury, or up and coming players. Alot of value is here with the correct selections. To be safe plan on 1.5 trades per player in this category to reach your keeper/premium.
100-200k - These are generally big risk big rewards or cash cows. Just because they are normally quite risky or rookies I would plan on 1.5 to 2 trades per players depending on your certainty of player performance. If your not sure 1.75 trades per player.
<100k - 2 trades per rookie to reach a premium.
Look at your starting 22 and then work out the trades per above. Most will be between 14-16. If your above 16 Id suggest trying to get more players youd see in your final 22 (This would suggest youve gone for too many 300-350k and 200-300k players and run the risk of using too many trades to reach your final 22). Goodluck!
Well different theories are the whole point of this thread arn't they? There's lots of value in other areas, more so than the mids i think. Good on you for trying something different nameless. You might be onto something. At least you won't have to double trade for ablett and corey and find $400k to do it. Good luck.
I'm pretty happy with my backline:
H Shaw, Marty Clarke, C Cornes are the premium.
Followed by Nicoski, Harry Taylor, Raines and Spanger.
Nicoski looks like he's well over his injury from last year and has been getting plenty of it, BOG v Pies. Harry Taylor at the Cats at $260k has alot of upside IMO, same with Raines at Richmond. Have also taken a punt with Spanger at the Eagles, he has really played well in the last three practice games as a winger who drifts back to the half back line.
Forwards, premium are Cyril Rioli, Leon Davis, Wirrapanda and Dale Thomas. Pleanty of midfield time with these guys and Wirra looks like going back into defence, again sweeping across half back.
Taken punts on Lucas and Skipworth at the Bombers as well as Nathan Kraukauer at Port, has been also played quite well as a HBFer this pre season.
So Rioli, Davis, Thomas and Wirra plus Lucas, Skipworth and Krakauer.
I've purposely avoided big key power forwards and looked for the smalls to mid size who play on ball or even better down back.
I really think this year the midfield zone will result in the half back line picking up a ton of cheap possesions chipping sideways and handballing through the zone.
Just added up and I have 13 end of year keepers.
Judd, Gibbs, J Selwood, Cox, Hille.
H Shaw, C Cornes, M Clarke and Harry Taylor.
Rioli, Davis, Thomas and Wirrapanda.
Kerr and Cuz could be as well but we will wait and see.
Out of all those, I would only consider Cornes a premium. Maybe.
Jay-Z
North's Enforcer
Have mixed up the midfield alot in the past few weeks and am very happy with what i have settled on:
Swan
Dalziell
Selwood (Joel)
Gibbs
Morton
Anthony
That's about 2.1 million on the 6 players and I think 5 of them could turn out to be keepers (though 1 will obviously be traded anyway because you need at least 2 of ABC at the end of the year)
Swan
Dalziell
Selwood (Joel)
Gibbs
Morton
Anthony
That's about 2.1 million on the 6 players and I think 5 of them could turn out to be keepers (though 1 will obviously be traded anyway because you need at least 2 of ABC at the end of the year)
The way i went about my midfield this year was pretty simple
One superstar player- Gary Ablett
Three upper range players who still have a scope for improvment- Joel Selwood, Bryce Gibbs and Chris Knights
One middle range player who should improve into the upper categroy- Sean Grigg
One Rookie- Dayne Beams/ Mitch Robinson/ Liam Anthony
I went with a similar method last year and it worked wonders...
One superstar player- Gary Ablett
Three upper range players who still have a scope for improvment- Joel Selwood, Bryce Gibbs and Chris Knights
One middle range player who should improve into the upper categroy- Sean Grigg
One Rookie- Dayne Beams/ Mitch Robinson/ Liam Anthony
I went with a similar method last year and it worked wonders...
Ablett
S.Tuck
J.Selwood
Gibbs
Rich
Anthony/Beams/Robinson
S.Tuck
J.Selwood
Gibbs
Rich
Anthony/Beams/Robinson
I like it because it is really original and shows you have been thinking independently.
Dunn - Well Done
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A/B/C
Premium/captain option
Gibbs
Haselby
2 higher end rookies
higher end rookie
86k rookie (Beams or Anthony)
Premium/captain option
Gibbs
Haselby
2 higher end rookies
higher end rookie
86k rookie (Beams or Anthony)
These are my mids
Cross
Selwood
Gibbs
Haselby/Grigg/Reily
Butler
Rich
Anthony
Robinson
I have choosen 3 keepers in my mids and 3 Cash Cows those 3 keepers im am hoping for them to be my 4/5/6 mid at the end of the season. Im really not sure which one out of Haselby, Grigg or Reily especially with Reily's low score on the weekend.
Cross
Selwood
Gibbs
Haselby/Grigg/Reily
Butler
Rich
Anthony
Robinson
I have choosen 3 keepers in my mids and 3 Cash Cows those 3 keepers im am hoping for them to be my 4/5/6 mid at the end of the season. Im really not sure which one out of Haselby, Grigg or Reily especially with Reily's low score on the weekend.
1. Premium
2. Premium
3. Upper Range
4. Upper Range
5. Rookie
6. Rookie
7. Rookie
8. Rookie
Hoping to only need 2 upgrades. As my 350k-400k players should turn into keepers.
Only thing i regret is having no space for Haselby.
2. Premium
3. Upper Range
4. Upper Range
5. Rookie
6. Rookie
7. Rookie
8. Rookie
Hoping to only need 2 upgrades. As my 350k-400k players should turn into keepers.
Only thing i regret is having no space for Haselby.
Having thought alot about my team in the last few days, Im not sure i am confident enough in the rookies to start one in the midfield. Not sure what my structure will be, but just looking at the rookies, i cant find 3 im confident in playing most if not all of the first half of the season.
courageous_tom
Team Captain
Ive gone with:
Swan
Kornes
Gibbs
Mackay
Butler
Rich
Beams / Anthony
with the intention of upgrading Mackay / Butler / Rich to A/B/C throughout the year
Swan
Kornes
Gibbs
Mackay
Butler
Rich
Beams / Anthony
with the intention of upgrading Mackay / Butler / Rich to A/B/C throughout the year
Ive got:
Ablett
Swan
Mackay
Gibbs
Rich
Otten
Pretty confident in the last two getting regular games. Considering swapping out Swan for a Selwood/Tuck/Dalziell type so that I can solidify some bench positions.
Ablett
Swan
Mackay
Gibbs
Rich
Otten
Pretty confident in the last two getting regular games. Considering swapping out Swan for a Selwood/Tuck/Dalziell type so that I can solidify some bench positions.
