mike sheehans says cats have 14 of the afls top 50 players

[True Bluebagger]

What he's saying is Des Headland was a very good player at Brisbane with the blokes around him. Now he's meant to be the number 1 midfielder at Freo and he has lived up to it.

I dare say the same would happen with Corey, Enright and maybe someone else from Geelong.

Obviously Des Headland has a twin because the one I see play is probably one of the most disappointing players going around at the moment and for mine is one of the best examples of a handy player playing better because of the great players around him.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

It's like saying Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver in the world, but put everyone in a Ferrari and see how well he goes then.

Put Egan, Selwood, Mooney or Johnson into Richmond, Carlton or Melbourne and see how well they go.

For example, Essendon in 2000, Blumfield, Caracella, Heffernan and Peverill were hailed as superstars. They weren't.

a car is made up of mechanical parts, not of the driver
a football team however is made up of players so thats a bad example

since a ferrari is tghe best f1 car dosent that mean it has the best parts inside of it ?

 

[Sainters08]

Mike Sheehan is a twit..

To think he has Enright, Milburn and Harley are in the Top 50 is beyond a joke.

Selwood. IMO not quite in the Top 50 yet. but will get there defiantly.

How I Rate Them:

Chapman, Ablett, Bartel, Scarlett all Top 20.

Johnson, Ling both top 30

Egan, Ottens, Corey all top 50

Mooney, Enright, Milburn, Harley, Selwood all top 100

 

[Last Line Hero]

Ablett, Scarlett, Bartel are top 20.
Chapman, Corey, Ottens are top 50.
S.Johnson, Mooney, Egan, Milburn, Selwood top 100
Ling, Enright, Harley just outside top 100

RIGHT NOW:
Scarlett, Ablett, Bartel are Top 10.
Chapman, Corey, Ling are Top 20.
S. Johnson, Milburn, Ottens, Mooney, Enright are Top 50.
Selwood, Egan, Harely are out of the Top 50.

 

[ripitup27]

Obviously Des Headland has a twin because the one I see play is probably one of the most disappointing players going around at the moment and for mine is one of the best examples of a handy player playing better because of the great players around him.

Sorry, there was meant to be a 'not' in front of 'lived up to it'.

I'm on your side. In my opinion, Ablett, Bartel, Scarlett, Ottens, Chapman and possibly Ling are top 50.

I like Joel Corey, no problem with him, but I don't think he is in the top 50 players. The fantastic team and coaching has made him look a lot better than what he is.

Selwood is on the brink of superstardom, but give him this year before he makes a top 50.

 

[Adz]

Let's not get carried away by Geelong so far.

They've played a bottom 4 team (essendon) and a team on the way to bottom 4 (Port).
Let's see how they go against Hawks, Crows etc.

 

[Underdog]

Tom Harley 2007:
13.8 disposals 5.4 marks 1.1 tackles

Trent Croad:
12.3 disposals 5.3 marks 0.6 tackles

Bret Thornton:
14.8 disposals 5.2 marks 0.9 tackles

Just thought I'd compare him to some other top defenders from last year. Add more if you like, but anyone saying he is no good is wrong. Top 50 maybe not, but no good...no.

Adam Hunter
19.0 disposals 6.0 marks 2.2 tackles

far better then all of them...

but stats mean nothing...even less so for defenders, particularly as you've compared a third tall in Harley to 2 key position players

 

[True Bluebagger]

Adam Hunter
19.0 disposals 6.0 marks 2.2 tackles

far better then all of them...

but stats mean nothing...even less so for defenders, particularly as you've compared a third tall in Harley to 2 key position players

Do you think that Harley would be top 50 if he played at Carlton? As the No. 1 defender he would taking all the big power forwards. I do know one thing for sure, it would be down at his end a lot!!!

 

[Last Line Hero]

Let's not get carried away by Geelong so far.

They've played a bottom 4 team (essendon) and a team on the way to bottom 4 (Port).
Let's see how they go against Hawks, Crows etc.

The Crows ...pffft...

 

[Palmer Stoat]

he said geelong had 5 elite players (top20) in ablett,bartel,corey,ottens and scarlett

Corey and Ottens aren't top-20 material IMO. Fourteen of the top 50 is also way over the top. They're a great team, deserving premiers, and red-hot favourites this year. But let's not get carried away.

 

[Bollox]

Yepp...same as the 1 pt dynasty guys did.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

I do. It's ludicrous.

14 in the top 50. Which means 15 teams share the other 36, unfathomable.

Heh, well said.

 

[FisherHawk]

The guy can't help himself. He's a sensationalist, not a journalist.

When the Lions were dominant, he had to come out and say they were better than the Hawks of the 80's, even though they played in 8 of 9 GF in a row, and won 5.

When Carey gets in the sh*t and hits the headlines, mike comes out and says he's the greatest of all time. BS.

The Cats are dominant ATM. There is a dominant club every year. If generous, I could think of 7 in the top 50, which is a fair effort. Not 14 Mike.

 

[Bennycoff]

All those listed are very good players however Harley and Enright are not in the top 50 IMO, they are solid but not absolute stars. Selwood top 50 already? He's a gun though.

I was surprised that Josh Hunt was a B+ player, he's average at best

 

[True Bluebagger]

All those listed are very good players however Harley and Enright are not in the top 50 IMO, they are solid but not absolute stars. Selwood top 50 already? He's a gun though.

I was surprised that Josh Hunt was a B+ player, he's average at best

Yeah I reckon that Kane Tenace could go top 100 too!!!

 

[RECORDS!]

More bullsht from the mouth of Iron Mike. Ottens is NOT in the best 20 players in the comp - that is the biggest piece of overhyped crap I have ever heard.

He is such a _______, he even put Deledio in his top 50 and left Foley and Richo out! Come on Mike

 

[The 747]

Well the footy story of the early week is all about how good Geelong are, how many Melbourne players would make the team yadda yadda. Footy journos are the quintessential sheep of the media industry. Has there been a Robert Walls article yet?

FWIW no we do not have 14 of the top 50 players

 

[Frigate]

If Geelong win three premierships in a row and go undefeated for one of those years, I will concede that they have 14 in the top 50.

Considering where they finished the year before with much the same team (and that they have not nearly won a flag with that group before).

Yes Mike, I understand you don't get enough pussy.

 

[viper05]

So the same can be said about Judd, he was made to look good by those around him.
now hes in a struggling side hes shown up,and if hes still injured then rest him, but thats just an excuse right now 6 months and hes not fit

 

[Sttew]

Stupid comment by Mike.

In no particular order

1. Bartel
2. Ablett
3. Scarlett
4. Corey
5. Chapman
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Maybe just maybe Ottens but I suspect if he was playing in any other side he would be the average player he always was and always will be

In no particular order, what? Is the above list your "Elite" group, or Elite + A grade, or what?

At the moment, and I stress 'the moment', Mike Sheehan's assessment is fair and reasonable. But in six months, let alone 3 months, things could be different.

 

[Frigate]

So the same can be said about Judd, he was made to look good by those around him.
now hes in a struggling side hes shown up,and if hes still injured then rest him, but thats just an excuse right now 6 months and hes not fit

He has just had surgery snappa, he won't be right for a while, he stated that before the season began.

Judd is good - top 5, and moves up a couple of places in respect for leaving West Coast

 

[tw0kbydesign]

lol at mike. Poor old Mike, he actually truly believes the sh*t he comes up with.

Anybody else see the claims he made about Selwood on the couch?

Don't get me wrong the kid is a gun but he claimed he will be better than Bartel and Judd and many others within 12 months. FFS hes the 6th or 7th best midfielder in supposedly the most unbeatable team ever. Swap him with Nathan Jones at Melbourne. I'd like to see what happens.

 

[Chris who]

Des Headland Board

 

[Inferno]

Ablett, Bartel, Chapman and Scarlett would be top 20 and you could make a claim for Corey too.

Selwood, Egan, Ling, Ottens and Milburn would be top 50 and Harley would be borderline.

And don't forget the goal kicking machine - Mark Blake

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Yepp...same as the 1 pt dynasty guys did.

geelong are rated much higher than WCE were.There is some talk know about geelong being one of the greatsets sides ever. Tony shaw just said on the weekend that geelong have more class in the midfield than the great lions side did.