Mike Sheehan's Top 10 Indigenous Players of All Time

[I Lost My Keays]

Tough task. Personal bias to me says Long should be ahead of Winmar and O'Loughlin.

Miles ahead O'Loughlin imo

 

[swingdog]

I'm not surprised you can't remember. The 1980 grand final include players like Wayne Delmenico, Deric Shaw, O'brien and Simon Outhwaite came on in the last quarter to kick 3 goals. A very young Brad Hardie came on in the 2nd quarter and kicked 3 goals. But seriously, have could you forget Basil.

Ah Basil, built for league footy!

 

[dfj68]

I'm trying to remember who our forward was.... I can remember lumbering Joe McKay in the backline, who later became my parent's financial advisor.

Ray Bauskis?

 

[JoondalupJ]

No Stephen Michael? Guess he just meant AFL/VFL?

Listen to Hardie talk about Stephen Michael, he considers him the best footballer he's ever seen and would have killed in the AFL.
When he played, the WAFL was a very very high standard competition, no AFL , I've heard many people talk about this bloke since I've come over here he sounds like he could have done anything he wanted to. Decided to stay in WA.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

HAHA

Are you as dopey as Sheehan?

 

[Darcy 2 Fyfe]

Scotty "prince of Pockets" Chisolm?

Nah really, no chip on the shoulder yada,yada,yada. Stephen Michael was a freak. He used to rove his own ruck work and beat much bigger opponents (Graham Moss, Ron Boucher et al). Sheehan has the chip, not me,

 

[dfj68]

1979 Derby Grand Final

 

[JoondalupJ]

No Jimmy Krakouer makes list a joke.

(Presuming absence of Stephen Michael is to do with it being AFL/VFL list)

Really how do you make a list thats only ten in number , you can't , I know how good Maurice was and I know Franklin is a freak like the Abbletts , but I have seen Cyril do magical things , I would have to have him in MY top ten , but you just keep remembering others , Its impossible , and it is true how can't you have both Krakouers' in the top ten, a must.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Are you as dopey as Sheehan?

Andrew Mcleod
2x Premiership Player (1997-98)
340 Games

Two time Norm Smith Medal winner 1997, 1998 (only one of two players to achieve this honour)
• Michael Tuck Medal winner 2003
• Winner Malcolm Blight Medal (Best and Fairest AFC AFL) 1997, 2001, 2007
• Runner up for the Malcolm Blight medal 1998, 1999, 2000
• All Australian 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007 (Captain)
• Runner Up in the Brownlow Medal 2001
• AFL Player’s Association Most Valuable Player award 2001
• Member of the Indigenous Team of the Century
• Jim Stynes medal winner 2005
• Life Member of Adelaide (AFL) 2003
• At the time of retirement games record holder for Adelaide (AFL)

 

[The_Reaper]

Sheedy, Cable and Dorrington were making a Noongar all time time a few weeks ago. Does anyone know if they have completed it yet?

 

[courtjester]

B- Gavin Wanganeen---Daryl White---Shaun Burgoyne
HB- Andrew McLeod---Steven Michael---Byron Pickett
C- Peter Matera---Maurice Rioli----Michael Long
HF- Jim Krakouer---Adam Goodes---Nicky Winmar
F- Micky O'Loughlin---Buddy Franklin---Phil Krakouer

R- Polly Farmer---Syd Jackson---Barry Cable

Cyril could replace a Krakoeur, not sure who was the better one of the two.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Andrew Mcleod
2x Premiership Player (1997-98)
340 Games

Two time Norm Smith Medal winner 1997, 1998 (only one of two players to achieve this honour)
• Michael Tuck Medal winner 2003
• Winner Malcolm Blight Medal (Best and Fairest AFC AFL) 1997, 2001, 2007
• Runner up for the Malcolm Blight medal 1998, 1999, 2000
• All Australian 1998, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2007 (Captain)
• Runner Up in the Brownlow Medal 2001
• AFL Player’s Association Most Valuable Player award 2001
• Member of the Indigenous Team of the Century
• Jim Stynes medal winner 2005
• Life Member of Adelaide (AFL) 2003
• At the time of retirement games record holder for Adelaide (AFL)

Gavin Wanganeen

• Port Adelaide SANFL premiership side 1990
• SANFL Rookie of the Year 1990

AFL

• AFLPA Rookie of the Year 1991
• All-Australian Team 1992, 1993, 1995, 2001, 2003
• Essendon pre-season premiership side 1993, 1994
• Michael Tuck Medal 1993
• Brownlow Medal 1993
• Essendon premiership side 1993
• Essendon Team of the Century (back pocket) 1997
• Port Adelaide captain 1997–2000
• Port Adelaide pre-season premiership side 2001, 2002
• "Champions of Essendon" - elected 19th, 2002
• Second Brownlow Medal (equal) 2003
• Leigh Matthews Trophy runner-up 2003
• Port Adelaide best and fairest 2003
• Inside Football Player of the Year 2003
• Port Adelaide premiership side 2004http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Football_Hall_of_Fame
• Australian Football Hall of Fame
  
• AFL Life Membership 2004
• Most Outstanding achievement in AFL 2004 (The Deadlys)
• Indigenous Team of the Century half-back flank 2005
• Port Adelaide Life Membership 2006

Pretty hard to split them on record IMO McLeod was more consistent but Wanganeen's best was superior, Both wonderful players and both Port Magpies

 

[swingdog]

1979 Derby Grand Final

Love the Maurice Rioli one handed pick-up and belting it long for a goal.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Gavin Wanganeen

• Port Adelaide SANFL premiership side 1990
• SANFL Rookie of the Year 1990

AFL

• AFLPA Rookie of the Year 1991
• All-Australian Team 1992, 1993, 1995, 2001, 2003
• Essendon pre-season premiership side 1993, 1994
• Michael Tuck Medal 1993
• Brownlow Medal 1993
• Essendon premiership side 1993
• Essendon Team of the Century (back pocket) 1997
• Port Adelaide captain 1997–2000
• Port Adelaide pre-season premiership side 2001, 2002
• "Champions of Essendon" - elected 19th, 2002
• Second Brownlow Medal (equal) 2003
• Leigh Matthews Trophy runner-up 2003
• Port Adelaide best and fairest 2003
• Inside Football Player of the Year 2003
• Port Adelaide premiership side 2004
• Australian Football Hall of Fame
  
• AFL Life Membership 2004
• Most Outstanding achievement in AFL 2004 (The Deadlys)
• Indigenous Team of the Century half-back flank 2005
• Port Adelaide Life Membership 2006

Pretty hard to split them on record IMO McLeod was more consistent but Wanganeen's best was superior, Both wonderful players and both Port Magpies

It would be amazing to see them both play together in the same team haha

 

[MaddAdam]

B- Gavin Wanganeen---Daryl White---Shaun Burgoyne
HB- Andrew McLeod---Steven Michael---Byron Pickett
C- Peter Matera---Maurice Rioli----Michael Long
HF- Jim Krakouer---Adam Goodes---Nicky Winmar
F- Micky O'Loughlin---Buddy Franklin---Phil Krakouer

R- Polly Farmer---Syd Jackson---Barry Cable

Cyril could replace a Krakoeur, not sure who was the better one of the two.

Jim. People forget how good Jim was. He's up in first picked terrirtory with Polly Farmer, Cable, McLeod and Michael.

 

[Nostradumbass]

I never saw Cable or Farmer play so I can't comment on them. I have seen the other 8 on that list and Maurice is the best from that lot IMO. He did it when it counted aswell.

 

[JUBJUB]

Half of them from WA.

This will shock Dermott Brereton who thinks all Indigenous players come from up North

 

[He_Beast]

Who's peter matera? Does he mean phil?

 

[The_Reaper]

Who's peter matera? Does he mean phil?

Team: West Coast

how?

 

[Donakebab]

B- Gavin Wanganeen---Daryl White---Shaun Burgoyne
HB- Andrew McLeod---Steven Michael---Byron Pickett
C- Peter Matera---Maurice Rioli----Michael Long
HF- Jim Krakouer---Adam Goodes---Nicky Winmar
F- Micky O'Loughlin---Buddy Franklin---Phil Krakouer

R- Polly Farmer---Syd Jackson---Barry Cable

Cyril could replace a Krakoeur, not sure who was the better one of the two.

No to Cyril. Jim was better than Phil, you can't have a team with just one Krakouer brother.

 

[Mockcockpit]

Nicky Winmar would punch Sheehan in the nose for suggesting he was a better footballer than his team-mate Stephen Michael. Sheehan is probably lucky Maurice isn't alive as he'd probably give him a pop as well and Maurice could punch on with the best of them!

 

[ImperialPurple]

I'm trying to remember who our forward was.... I can remember lumbering Joe McKay in the backline, who later became my parent's financial advisor.

BIG BAD BASIL!

 

[1990crow]

Wanganeen>McLeod every day of the week mike pffft

Yeah, ok.

 

[UpForGrabs]

Probably one of the only lists where #1 and possibly #2 are a given and everyone else is fighting out for the other eight spots.

 

[kingswood71]

Many contracts and forms have a section asking if you identify as Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander so it'd probably be based on that.

The suggestion you need to be "full blood" to identify with a race is absurd.

Absolutely agree...Aboriginal is Aboriginal...No "Full-blood", "Half-blood" etc etc!! It is about identity and acceptance.
My 4 year old identifies as "Aboriginal" and if someone called him a "half blood", I think i would be very offended!!...He is Aboriginal!