AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH Hooper is better than Tambling. Plays in a better team and didnt get dropped the the Suncoast Lions or watever they are called up there in the AFLQ. Don't know enuf about Edwards
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The Blues were never going to trade pick #1. The reason Judd didn't nominate the Tiges was because he didn't rate your list or management or future. That's the real reason. He rated the Dees, Dons, Pies and Blues ahead of your Club. And that's the point. Do you agree with Judds assessment?
The reason he didnt nominate Richmond is because we didnt promise him a corprate job after his playing days are over.
Dick Pratt did.
And John Elliot did it before him. Or do you reckon Kernahan became a stockbroker on talent alone.
We all know how this ends.
Club president, turned corporate crook.
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lol everyone point and laugh at the bulldogs supporter!
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If Brennan leaves the Lions then it worked well. If not then someone else may fall it is how the game works. Make other clubs pay overs for players and eventually one will miss out. If we made a play for Brennan ahead of Hooper we would have probably ended up with Hooper. Now which player is better value for Richmond? Another small flanker/pocket or a potential KP type.
was tossing and turning last night on the futile play we made for Hooper when in reality we have both Tambling and Edwards miles ahead of him vying for a similar spot...when "bing" it just occurred to me. we never wanted the
%#@%, we simply wanted the Lions to bust their chops to keep him meaning there was prescious little left in the cookie jar when it came to signing someone like Brennan that we would seriously like to see in the yellow and black. Now that Mr miller is one hell of a card trick
Greg Miller is an idiot and 95% of tigers supporters I speak to would do anything for him to leave.
Case in point. The last player the tigers needed this year was another outside running half back like Jordon M.
I would think u would of been better off keeping your pick and using it on a young Ruck/Fwd/Back or inside mid.
How so... um maybe because Judd nominated Carlton.
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Those would be Werribee Tigers supporters, would they?
You have no idea, or you have the mathematics skills of a pre-schooler.
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Actually KB said Richmond were in the box seat to make a play for Judd and force Carltons hand to give up more than they wanted, which is what happened. Major prize would have been them giving up picks 1 & 3 with us netting Kruezer but we'll take Carlton losing a talented young KP, like they have shitload to be able to give one up, and 2 picks in the top 20 for a player that may or may not help bring success to Carlton.
This has similarity to when Richmond got Johnson (not saying Johnson is Judd like so settle down) we went after a 2 time premiership winner with the hope he would be part of future success at Richmond and 5 years down the track nothing. Cost us pick 2, 18 & Torney. Hope it works out better for the Blues than it did us.
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hmmm , ask any of our key forwards that einstein, obviously watched alot of richmond this year...any other areas we need to correct supercoach
Um, it didn't. We still got Judd and we still have pick #1. lol. It had no effect whatsoever. If we gave up pick #1 or #1 and #3 or missed Judd, then you'd be correct. But none of these happened. The reason? Miller failed to get Judd to nominate the Tiges, and so the Tiges could not trade with the Weagles.
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You can retrospectively try and argue that it all works out for the best, but lets not pretend that the reason the Tigers made such an effort to poach Hooper was anything other than the fact they wanted his services. Getting Brennan is Plan B.
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Still believing the spin, Parrot. Your initial offer on the Monday of trade week was picks 3 & 20 no more. You had to sacrifice Kennedy to get the deal done. Tell me if it was as cut and dried as you would have us believe then why did it take 3 days of draft week to get the deal done? WC had a better offer which Carlton had to top hence Kennedy being added.Um, it didn't. We still got Judd and we still have pick #1. lol. It had no effect whatsoever. If we gave up pick #1 or #1 and #3 or missed Judd, then you'd be correct. But none of these happened. The reason? Miller failed to get Judd to nominate the Tiges, and so the Tiges could not trade with the Weagles.
You got us there Miller was going to come out and announce to all and sundry who we were looking at in the PSD during trade week when were using that pick as a tool to get players cheaper.
We used it to get Mitch Morton for pick 35 instead of having to fork over pick 18. Chased Hooper so that the Lions who were keen on keeping him had to offer him a little bit more to secure him. Said nothing about Brennan until after trade week.
Now as it stands the Lions still have a few players yet to re-sign, namely Selwood, Adcock and Brennan. Richmond are sniffing around forcing up their prices and will gladly take anyone of them if they can't get a deal done. Well played Mr Miller.
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So if Hooper agreed to go Richmond, Miller would have immediately withdrawn the offer and flown his posse back to Melbourne?
Every club has players who are yet to sign.
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No they wouldn't have they most likely would have offered the Lions a trade to get him but think about it from the following angle, we had enough money to pay Judd's million dollar demands, so we will have more than enough to pay 3-4 players that amount in total. We signed McMahon on about $1 mil over 3 years, have got Morton who would be a average contract and still have room to move to target more players. Hell for all any of us know Miller may have gone and contacted Ruttens manager (he has not signed yet) and offered him $1.5 over 3 years.
In any case Brennan would be one of a number of players we would be looking at that have not re signed yet. Time will tell who we eventually get.
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How the heck would you know, do you honestly think we needed another fella under 5"9 in our starting line up, I mean how many could you play...Tambling, edwards, Foley, King all certain starters...Hooper was the patsy in Millers mission to mop all the loose change left in the Lions cookie jar...play it again Sam , I say
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So you're saying Miller's plan was if Hooper agreed to play for Richmond they would have traded him straight back to Brisbane again?
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Have a look at the McMahon deal we offered him the 3 years before he decided to sign with us. Same situation would have applied if Hooper decided to come to Richmond. They would have offered the Lions a trade so that pick 1 in the PSD could be kept in the bank. We could have taken either McMahon or Morton in the PSD but traded for them instead to keep our options open.
Miller would be well aware who is coming out of contract and along with Wallace would have a target in their sights but they sure as hell aren't going to announce it to the public until it is done and dusted. We have so far said we will not discount picking up Whitnall, Cousins(not going to happen now), Richards, Brennan to name 4.
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So you did want him then. That was my point all along.
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Fair enough. I had thought you were agreeing with the opening post.
Still, it seems strange to me that they targeted Hooper if he wasn't the main target. Maybe they would have been better off sweet talking the player they were after and offering him a contract instead.
Our initial offer was 3,20 and kennedy... The eagles wanted pick 1 as well. If anything we were trying to get 20 out of the deal. Kennedy was always going to be a part of the deal... well a WA boy anyway and at the moment bower has no currency.
Exactly. It's funny how history is being re-written now. I remember opposition supporters demanding we trade #1 instead of #3, or trade #1 and #3, and throw in Fev. We all remember these demands. None eventuated.
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Look one thing about Miller.. he is so smart that you just know that he will always have you blokes in the box seat....
You know what's hilarious? I just KNOW you're a fat slob sitting at home giggling to your stained blow-up doll about how you've just posted the same "funny" comment on 16 threads on the Richmond board.
You're a sad individual. I feel pity for you. Really I do.
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