MRP / Trib. Mitch Duncan bump on Robbie Fox discussion - not sure of report yet

[FreddyTwoShoes]

Yep - the key point to make is that Fox ran/slid way past the ball.
In that respect, I can’t recall a similar incident but Duncan should be fine.

 

[Spearman]

Fook Luke Darcy for IMMEDIATELY saying they gotta have a look at it, and then going and asking everyone what they thought.
"Will be debated long and hard."

Why the * would it? Fox overruns the ball, then slips and goes in and Duncan protects himself. So what happens if Duncan doesn't protect himself? Fox maybe takes the legs and *s Mitch up.

What a ******* trash call from a trash commentator. There is no reportable action in that, end of the day Fox overruns the ball initiating the contact. What alternative is Duncan left with? And if Fox doesn't slip he likely cannons into Duncan because, and this is for those in the back, FOX OVERRUNS THE BALL.

Luke Darcy is the textbook example of the boy's club and giving employment to someone who adds exactly nothing to whatever production he is involved in.
Does he ever actually give insight or expertise in a telecast?

 

[Footy Smarts]

There's no way he gets suspended. If Tom Lynch can "misjudge" a ball and jump into his opponent but get off because he was supposedly contesting the footy I don't see how Duncan can get suspended for chasing after the ball and bracing when his opponent runs at him.

 

[Play it Sam]

Sorry for intruding. To be honest when I first saw the incident in real time I thought it was a free to Duncan for sliding and taking out his legs. I don't even think it was a bump, he braced himself for impact instinctively

We were sitting right behind this incident and said the same thing immediately.
Objectively the swan came in too low and careless. Thought the whistle was our free, he hurtled in at tibia height before Duncan adjusted.
but Duncan will pay, nothing surer.

 

[TEDDY24INC]

Play on

 

[catsfootyfan89]

Common sense will win on this one I'd say.

 

[Tristan34]

If he gets a suspension it will only be a week, but he should get off free for that… The AFL is coming down on head contacts, due to pending lawsuits, so I wouldn’t put it past them…

 

[catsfootyfan89]

If he gets a suspension it will only be a week, but he should get off free for that… The AFL is coming down on head contacts, due to pending lawsuits, so I wouldn’t put it past them…

I'm interested in how long it will take for the AFL to fully absorb the idea that you just cannot litigate all head injuries away from a contact sport.

For what it's worth, I love how much time and effort they're spending on it, but you just can't eradicate it completely.

 

[TomsBulgingDisc]

Has anybody asked John Ralph? He's the official one man MRP, espousing his opinion as fact when it comes to blokes missing games.

 

[Turbocat]

Fox is so far past the ball, and his angle of attack so horizontal , it made it difficult for Duncan to do anything else than what he did. If MD goes because he was concussed questions should be asked on why he played on.

 

[_Game_]

I honestly cant believe so many think he will get a week. Surely not. Did not get him high and did not initiate contact. If he gets a week that is pretty damn easy to argue down from careless, he simply braced.

 

[goyoucatters]

Surely he gets a week, according to the MRO 'criteria'. And surely the club is then able to appeal and present a compelling case for Mitch having no other reasonable cause to contest the footy (including all the very salient info already noted here about how Fox actually initiates the contact).

So I think if you're saying, 'they'll call that a week', you're right. And if you're saying 'he'll definitely get off', you'll also ultimately be correct.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

He's in trouble I think. Chose to bump and made contact with the head.

 

[Drunkcat]

The game is stuffed if he gets any weeks just total Bullsh-t

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

The game is stuffed if he gets any weeks just total Bullsh-t

The game has been stuffed for years.

Players have been told that if you elect to bump and make contact with the head you're in trouble.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That's what it's getting to.

Which is ridiculous because where do you differentiate between which risks youre protecting? Arguably fox bumps duncan and accidentally concusses himself. Are we saying one player's head is worth protecting and the other one isnt? This is the slippery slope when you down this route. As i said duncan didnt bump he protected himself because fox went past the ball and tried to run through him (and slipped as he did it which was unavoidable for duncan)

The afl needs to stop worrying about potential lawsuits and penalise the action not the outcome. If its a fair football action with no alternative then let it go if its a non fair football action (like stewart going past the ball to bump prestia) then sanction it hard. But what we have at the moment is ridiculous

 

[Cataholic]

Which is ridiculous because where do you differentiate between which risks youre protecting? Arguably fox bumps duncan and accidentally concusses himself. Are we saying one player's head is worth protecting and the other one isnt? This is the slippery slope when you down this route. As i said duncan didnt bump he protected himself because fox went past the ball and tried to run through him (and slipped as he did it which was unavoidable for duncan)

The afl needs to stop worrying about potential lawsuits and penalise the action not the outcome. If its a fair football action with no alternative then let it go if its a non fair football action (like stewart going past the ball to bump prestia) then sanction it hard. But what we have at the moment is ridiculous

Trouble is, there seems to be a belief in some quarters that concussion can be legislated out of the game.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Which is ridiculous because where do you differentiate between which risks youre protecting? Arguably fox bumps duncan and accidentally concusses himself. Are we saying one player's head is worth protecting and the other one isnt? This is the slippery slope when you down this route. As i said duncan didnt bump he protected himself because fox went past the ball and tried to run through him (and slipped as he did it which was unavoidable for duncan)

The afl needs to stop worrying about potential lawsuits and penalise the action not the outcome. If its a fair football action with no alternative then let it go if its a non fair football action (like stewart going past the ball to bump prestia) then sanction it hard. But what we have at the moment is ridiculous

Mate, Duncan was in the bumping motion well before Fox had passed the ball.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Trouble is, there seems to be a belief in some quarters that concussion can be legislated out of the game.

Which is impossible unless you prohibit any form of contact. Once that happens the game dies.

I certainly won't watch it ... In fact I hardly watch any other games now as it is.

 

[Cataholic]

Mate, Duncan was in the bumping motion well before Fox had passed the ball.

That's what will draw the careful scrutiny of the MRO.

Who knows how they'll interpret it.......

 

[Cataholic]

Which is impossible unless you prohibit any form of contact. Once that happens the game dies.

I certainly won't watch it ... In fact I hardly watch any other games now as it is.

Agree totally.

There's a tinge of paranoia around the concussion debate.

 

[MisterMarcus]

There's no way he gets suspended. If Tom Lynch can "misjudge" a ball and jump into his opponent but get off because he was supposedly contesting the footy I don't see how Duncan can get suspended for chasing after the ball and bracing when his opponent runs at him.

Was going to say, on every measure it's 'better' than Lynch's incident.

There's absolutely a Chooklotto element to these, but if Lynch got off then surely Duncan will.

 

[BotsMaster]

The gif doesn’t do it justice but i can tell you with certainty at this point his shoulder makes contact with his head:

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Still looks like contact to the shoulder to me.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Agree totally.

There's a tinge of paranoia around the concussion debate.

There really isn't any way around it I'm afraid unless what I stated above happens.

Situations like Duncan's - even though the player involved wasn't concussed - Is avoidable. He simply chose to bump and collected Fox high. It now comes down the grading. It's either a fine or 1 week.

I'm not confident he'll escape suspension unfortunately.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

He's in trouble I think. Chose to bump and made contact with the head.

I assume youre talking about fox because he was the one that bumped.