Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

[nobbyiscool]

A question that I hope people will answer at face value, without involving the ideology and the coulda/shoulda/woulda of it:

If Toby Greene

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Toby Greene

Age

31

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182cm

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85kg

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Last 5

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22.7

5star

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12.5

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10.2

5star

M

4.8

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3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

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8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

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1.0

2star

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2.3

5star

D

26.6

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12.4

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14.2

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4.8

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3.6

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0.0

1star

is set to be fined $20k for a failure of leadership... surely that failure would be serious enough to cost him his captaincy?

 

[Bostonian]

Will Smith says its bullying.

It's an idiotic and naive attempt at comedy.

I couldn't care less what that idiot says.

A roast is when people willingly sign up to have a bunch of other people take the piss out of each other.

How you equate that to bullying boggles the mind.

 

[Bostonian]

You wilfully ignore an entire club culture and the power dynamics within it.

We know players who've been frozen out of playing groups, and subsequently their club for much less.

We don't know who made the complaint. If it's not a player then my point stands.

 

[Foxx]

I couldn't care less what that idiot says.

A roast is when people willingly sign up to have a bunch of other people take the piss out of each other.

How you equate that to bullying boggles the mind.

If you are signing up for it then that's one thing, but when it's unwarranted then it's bullying.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I couldn't care less what that idiot says.

A roast is when people willingly sign up to have a bunch of other people take the piss out of each other.

How you equate that to bullying boggles the mind.

It's a kind of sanctioned bullying/bullying that you've signed up to isn't it?

I have no idea why anyone would ever sign up to be the subject of one.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Dress up is hilarious and I am sure most people who have had to much to drink at some point in their lives have pushed things a little too far

Also dressing up as someone isn't an endorsement of them...

Is it?

 

[ashep]

Yes I guess I was, I was in the heraldsun and met the premier! originally there was 2 of us, but she went into the office 2nd year. John Shepherd of the Holden Dealer Team was my boss, one day he called me into the office and I thought I was in trouble! My hero ( I was 17!) Peter Brock was sitting there, and i got have coffee and a chat with him! Now that was the best day!! Cheers!

 

[Bostonian]

It's a kind of sanctioned bullying/bullying that you've signed up to isn't it?

I have no idea why anyone would ever sign up to be the subject of one.

Zero bullying. It's all consensual.

Think of it as the people with a wicked sense of humours version of a rap battle.

Or are rap battles bullying too?

 

[Bostonian]

If you are signing up for it then that's one thing, but when it's unwarranted then it's bullying.

So you don't know what roasts are then.

 

[Foxx]

So you don't know what roasts are then.

I know what it is.
The GWS boys weren't roasting each other.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Zero bullying. It's all consensual.

Think of it as the people with a wicked sense of humours version of a rap battle.

Or are rap battles bullying too?

I think we've all seen roasts that, whether it was acting or not, got suuuuper uncomfortable and felt like they crossed a line for the subject of the roast.

Anyway, whether a roast is bullying isn't a particularly interesting discussion to me, nor is it particularly relevant to this thread.

 

[Bostonian]

I know what it is.
The GWS boys weren't roasting each other.

Well you don't.

There is no "unwarranted" in a roast. It's literally a free for all. No holds barred.

 

[MagpieJo]

And your claim to fame?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What I am learning from this thread is is that at this year’s Xmas function I’m able to make a bunch of jokes about rape and pedophiles and my employer hasn’t got the right to do a damn thing about it.

Nice… I’m glad I can come to BigFooty for career advice!

 

[KetamineKerr]

Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[Foxx]

Well you don't.

There is no "unwarranted" in a roast. It's literally a free for all. No holds barred.

Read my comment again. I sad if it's agreed upon then that's one thing, ie a roast. But if it's not then it's unwarranted and bullying.

But like I also said, the roast is not applicable to the GWS boys.

 

[Bostonian]

Read my comment again. I sad if it's agreed upon then that's one thing, ie a roast. But if it's not then it's unwarranted and bullying.

But like I also said, the roast is not applicable to the GWS boys.

All roasts are agreed upon. That's literally what roasts are.

It's a comedy show where they book all the participants...

 

[pigeon26]

What I am learning from this thread is is that at this year’s Xmas function I’m able to make a bunch of jokes about rape and pedophiles and my employer hasn’t got the right to do a damn thing about it.

Nice… I’m glad I can come to BigFooty for career advice!

Who is organizing the Xmas function? Your company? Probably not the best move then.

I’d imagine the club itself had zero part in the organizing of the “whacky Wednesday” and would all be player lead.

Would imagine that makes a pretty big difference. If the club did any of the organising then the players are out of luck.

 

[The Feeder Club]

I haven't seen anyone suggest criminality.

I'm not arguing whether or not what they did is funny, I'm not even arguing whether theoretically these kinds of jokes can or can't be funny - I don't know, I haven't seen it, and I think there are far too many people here speaking as though they have seen it.

My point is merely that it's moronic to believe that parodying a sex offender won't offend someone and that it won't get out. You only have to offend one person. And it doesn't make them "woke" or whatever other reductive bullshit phrase morons want to use to avoid engaging in a debate about ideas - it just means they have different values and different thresholds for what they find funny, and perhaps it means that their values don't allow them to walk past that behaviour.

What are you actually on about?

As Jim Spigelman (one of Australia's grreatest legal minds) once said, there is no right not to be offended. That is the very essence of free speech.

Want to use big words like reducive? Possibly the most reducive thing I have read on this thread is you saying the threshold for what is acceptable expression through soeech or behaviour is that if one person out of thousands or millions is offended, it crosses that threshold.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Zero bullying. It's all consensual.

Think of it as the people with a wicked sense of humours version of a rap battle.

Or are rap battles bullying too?

Actually it was closer to a rape battle

For rap battle they would have dressed up as Kendrick or Eminem, not Diddy.

 

[Bostonian]

Actually it was closer to a rape battle

Otherwise they would have dressed up as Kendrick

See, you made a rape joke.

Let's see if you offended anyone.

 

[Toump Ass]

Its a foreign degenerate ideology that has reached our borders.

The **** are you on about.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

See, you made a rape joke.

Let's see if you offended anyone.

If that's what you think, fine.
But you should have made it rhyme.

 

[almuz]

Liberal snowflake cucks ruin everything - I remember simpler times in the 90s where you could make 9/11 jokes as much as you wanted and no one would bat an eyelid or react

 

[justlookingaround]

This situation reminded me…
couple years ago at work I was serving a regular customer and he started asking me something about bra sizes (I suspect this man was perhaps an adult virgin)… I said I didn’t know anything about them but my girlfriend told me if I had to wear a bra I’d be a AA cup.
The next customer in line was asking why we didn’t stock many things by lesbian authors…

The next day we get a google review complaining that a staff member (me) was talking about inappropriate things regarding women’s bodies.

Moral of the story, some people are insanely easy to offend and believe you should be punished for offending them.

That is not to say there is not things that should not be called out. If I hear someone use a racial slur, or express views aligning with nazism, I generally feel quite offended … but that is a step further than a stupid joke and pretending to have sex with a blow up doll. That is what I would call rowdy behaviour which is pretty common at mad Monday type events. Maybe don’t work at a pub if you can’t stand rowdy behaviour? Like I mentioned earlier, I have a mate that works at a night club that every so often hosts gay orgies - staff are told about the event prior and know it’s part of the job, they aren’t exactly going to complain about having to watch 700 dudes going at it when they know what they signed up for.