Rumour Multiple GWS players are set to be suspended to start the 2025 season after distasteful costumes and skits from their post-season function

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Not a fan of Family Guy I take it...

 

[Xtreme]

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shouldn't cop a fine for inaction

If anything he should be applauded as a hero, he had the opportunity to do some Karate Kid role play, dress up as Daniel LaRusso and launch karate kicks at everyone. But he behaved!

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

The difference is the unilateral nature of the response. If someone wants to take offence to something they can bring it to my attention, I may be persuaded and apologise, "it wasn't my intention to offend you, im sorry". Or they may not persuade me and I can tell them to **** off. Hell as you say someone may even hit you, at least you can respond to that, hit them back or respond in another way.

The difference is the AFL can just wave a magic wand, fine you with no notice of the offence you've committed, no fair and reasonable establishment of the offence and with no right of appeal.

So you're not upset about there being consequences for saying stuff that pisses people off?
But you are unhappy with the AFL's processes for when this happens?

Well derr..the AFL is a total shitshow with all of its processes.


But having said that, didn't the AFL investigate, hand down their punishments, and are now allowing the players to respond?

 

[FrustratedTiger]

9/11 jokes in the 90's???

Confucius said.....

 

[srobbo]

What next, cameras and tape recorders in the showers and locker rooms to make sure the boys don't say anything inappropriate

Exactly, the staff who pinched them at this private function should be sent to Xmas Is.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

9/11 jokes in the 90's???

 

[JHF1870]

Dark humor at a private event should absolutely be fine

Imagine being an AFL player caught playing Reddead Eedemption. AFL be giving life bans

 

[HairyO]

I assume all the big VIC clubs are now demanding they play the Giants in the first few rounds.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

What next, cameras and tape recorders in the showers and locker rooms to make sure the boys don't say anything inappropriate

I don't think that's the issue is it?

The issue is that someone did see it (whatever it is).

 

[JHF1870]

This situation reminded me…
couple years ago at work I was serving a regular customer and he started asking me something about bra sizes (I suspect this man was perhaps an adult virgin)… I said I didn’t know anything about them but my girlfriend told me if I had to wear a bra I’d be a AA cup.
The next customer in line was asking why we didn’t stock many things by lesbian authors…

The next day we get a google review complaining that a staff member (me) was talking about inappropriate things regarding women’s bodies.

Moral of the story, some people are insanely easy to offend and believe you should be punished for offending them.

That is not to say there is not things that should not be called out. If I hear someone use a racial slur, or express views aligning with nazism, I generally feel quite offended … but that is a step further than a stupid joke and pretending to have sex with a blow up doll. That is what I would call rowdy behaviour which is pretty common at mad Monday type events. Maybe don’t work at a pub if you can’t stand rowdy behaviour? Like I mentioned earlier, I have a mate that works at a night club that every so often hosts gay orgies - staff are told about the event prior and know it’s part of the job, they aren’t exactly going to complain about having to watch 700 dudes going at it when they know what they signed up for.

20 years ago we wouldnt think twice about things we said. Today. Well lets say Im talking to someone at work, espexially if its a woman. Im thinking multiple situations about how what I am thinking about saying could be interpreted. In the end I say nothing or remain incredibly terse. Even the most innocupus commemts can land you in HR

 

[Gough]

Exactly, the staff who pinched them at this private function should be sent to Xmas Is.

Maybe the staff member had been a victim of sexual assault themselves and was triggered by some of what went on.

 

[Dunger]

Strange times indeed.

Have the afl been waiting for an incident on mad monday so they can kill it?

Nope, they're too incompetent for that.

Toby Greene

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can't get a free kick if he paid for one, yet the afl are happy to ping him for not being involved.

Talk about Toby Tax...

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Seems like a nothing event that has been overblown by the media.

Comment hasn't aged well.

 

[HairyO]

Comment hasn't aged well.

What information has come out to show they are wrong ?

 

[srobbo]

Maybe the staff member had been a victim of sexual assault themselves and was triggered by some of what went on.

and maybe they weren’t & are just PC Karens who are thin skinned & just shouldn’t be working behind a bar.

Name & shame the pub I say.

 

[Hamingja]

GWS should hire an underground bunker 30 stories underground for their next Mad Monday.

It would really add to the authenticity of a Hitler & Eva Braun or Goebbels family costume

 

[Nikita Blue]

and maybe they weren’t & are just PC Karens who are thin skinned & just shouldn’t be working behind a bar.

Name & shame the pub I say.

Why? So the business can be destroyed?

 

[Bostonian]

Why? So the business can be destroyed?

Nobody would even know about it if they hadn't blabbed.

So who really potentially impacted the business name?

 

[Bucking Beads]

20 years ago we wouldnt think twice about things we said. Today. Well lets say Im talking to someone at work, espexially if its a woman. Im thinking multiple situations about how what I am thinking about saying could be interpreted. In the end I say nothing or remain incredibly terse. Even the most innocupus commemts can land you in HR

How sad is that. People seem to think they're entitled to be outraged and offended over every little thing.

 

[voorhees]

pretty pathetic AFL
seriously,
You let Stengle go, but not this ?

 

[Nvent]

20 years ago we wouldnt think twice about things we said. Today. Well lets say Im talking to someone at work, espexially if its a woman. Im thinking multiple situations about how what I am thinking about saying could be interpreted. In the end I say nothing or remain incredibly terse. Even the most innocupus commemts can land you in HR

100% this. Approaching a member of female staff to ask them about a work-related issue they caused is fraught with danger. You basically have to remain expressionless and speak without any emotion. Even if they have in fact caused the issue.

 

[Boxo004]

Comment hasn't aged well.

Comment is spot on

 

[rdhopkins2]

Probably haven’t named the venue as some joker of a bloke or sheila who wasn’t even there will lodge an RSA & noise complaint.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

I assume all the big VIC clubs are now demanding they play the Giants in the first few rounds.

If we cop multiple suspensions Tigers may be back in the running but otherwise it will be Bombers with the Stringer angle to promote it .Slight chance of Heavenly Swans versus evil Giants another angle that could be promoted .. Watch them promote Port v Hawks after fining Kenny 20,,000.Nothing surer.

 

[Underarm]

100% this. Approaching a member of female staff to ask them about a work-related issue they caused is fraught with danger. You basically have to remain expressionless and speak without any emotion. Even if they have in fact caused the issue.

Men really do have it tough in the workplace.