Current Murder of Luke Davies & Jesse Baird AFL Goal Umpire & ex Ch 10 Presenter * Stalker Cop Charged

[Pamcake1]

TIMELINE

Thursday 16 February: Service revolver obtained for user pays event. Was stored at mother's as per regulations.

Sunday 19 February: User pays event.

Monday 20 February: The murders at Baird's Paddington rental.

Monday 19 February: Police have alleged gunshots were heard from a house in Paddington, Sydney in the morning. Four minutes after the first shots were fired there was a 000 call made from Jessie's phone around 9.45am, but it disconnected. Police said there was "no communication" during that call.

Monday evening: Police have alleged Lamarre-Condon hired a white Hiace van from Sydney Airport.

Tuesday 20 February: Police have alleged that partial admissions were made by Lamarre-Condon to an acquaintance of having been involved in the death of two individuals.

Service revolver was returned to Balmain & later transferred to original storage.

Wednesday 21 February: Bloodied clothing belonging to both victims and an $8000 watch were found in a skip bin in the southern Sydney suburb of Cronulla. Police launch a missing persons investigation and the homicide unit is notified

Later same Wednesday: Police have alleged Lamarre-Condon attended the Bungonia area with an acquaintance who police believed assisted him in purchasing an angle grinder and padlock from a local hardware store in that area, before driving to a rural property in Bungonia.

Police said the "small" angle grinder was used to sever a padlock from the gate of that particular rural property and then that padlock was replaced with a padlock purchased from the hardware store.

The acquaintance was left at the top of the property for 30 minutes. The accused disappeared for that period in the Hiace van, returning to pick up the acquaintance and then they returned to Sydney later that afternoon. Police said the acquaintance was assisting them in their inquiries, that she is not a suspect, and they believe she was an "innocent agent".

Wednesday 11pm: Police have said that evening, weights were purchased from a department store by the accused and it is believed that the accused returned to that rural property overnight and during that evening, having also acquired two torches from the acquaintance.

Thursday 22 February: Police have alleged they can place the accused leaving the Bungonia area again at 4.30am. "It would appear that the accused has remained in the city area, still in control of the white Hiace van, before attending a further acquaintance's premises in the Newcastle area and without fully disclosing any criminality, asked access to a hose to clean that van," Hudson said.

Friday 23 February: At 10.39am, Lamarre-Condon presents himself at Bondi Police Station where he was arrested and subsequently charged.

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[Kurve]

You’d have to be as dumb as a bucket of hammers to plan to kill someone you could easily be linked to with your own service weapon inside a house they rent from your mother. It makes more sense to plan to use it to gain control of a situation that then goes badly wrong. He probably had something more elaborate and personal in mind.


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Oh ... the house belongs to his mother? So he could have keys.

 

[BFew]

Oh ... the house belongs to his mother? So he could have keys.

If Jesse's rental property was owned by the accused's mother, it's now more likely than before I read this, that one or more of Jesse's housemates were also connected to the larger NSW Police family in some way.

So was Jesse partly kicked out because he had broken up with the owner's son (the accused) and their was ill feeling (between the two)?

 

[Pamcake1]

Don’t understand why he doesn’t just tell the cops where the bodies are.


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He wants them out there for as long as possible to destroy evidence of what happened to them before they died and how they died. If the bodies are in water, it will happen a lot faster to where a forensic pathologist may not even be able to find cause of death.

It's possible imo, that they weren't shot and Baird left the spent casing there so he can weave some kind of self defence narrative involving a struggle with his weapon. Or something like that ...

I agree with Kurve that it's about time wasting and about destroying evidence and I would add that by withholding the information Lamare thinks he is somehow controlling the narrative. I believe there would be also an element of him also seeking attention or some twisted power that he thinks he has.

 

[Pamcake1]

You’d have to be as dumb as a bucket of hammers to plan to kill someone you could easily be linked to with your own service weapon inside a house they rent from your mother. It makes more sense to plan to use it to gain control of a situation that then goes badly wrong. He probably had something more elaborate and personal in mind.


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Where do you get that the house where the murder took place is held by Lamare's mother?

Also I note from the listing BFew posted the years lease was up in early March.

 

[Kurve]

I agree with Kurve that it's about time wasting and about destroying evidence and I would add that by withholding the information Lamare thinks he is somehow controlling the narrative. I believe there would be also an element of him also seeking attention or some twisted power that he thinks he has.

Yep, he's probably already planning his outfits for the trial

 

[BFew]

Also I note from the listing BFew posted the years lease was up in early March.

When you log into https://www.onthehouse.com.au site you get a longer property history than when not logged in.

 

[Percel]

Here's one of the dam's North of Goulburn.

Pejar Dam

Pejar Dam lies roughly halfway between Goulburn and Crookwell. With a capacity of 9,000 megalitres and a surface area of approximately 1.55 square kil

www.visitnsw.com

Pejar is a bit away from the search area, but not to be discounted. Cracking trout and now bass stocked in there

 

[Pamcake1]

Yep, he's probably already planning his outfits for the trial

No doubt.
Directing some perverse fantasy in his head.
I also note with interest that when he is taken through the station after arrest, the detectives are two females and one male, not the older males that we are used to seeing.
They would be handling him with kid gloves over a fist of iron atm.
The psych assesment for both his intake and the pre-trial one will be an interesting comparison.
Given that he is not telling them anything/co-opperating he will not be able to make a 'good' claim at mental illness for leniency.
It shows cold calculation.

 

[Pamcake1]

When you log into https://www.onthehouse.com.au site you get a longer property history than when not logged in.

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The years lease ends next Friday. I wonder if that was a factor. If the ex moved to a different house arrangement that L. didn't know the layout/security of. Nowhere does it say that L's mother owned the house. I don't think it is true.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Don’t understand why he doesn’t just tell the cops where the bodies are.


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He wouldn't be the first murderer to not reveal where his victim is. If he's not co-operating, then he hasn't admitted to the murders at all, so he's hardly going to reveal where the bodies are.

 

[BFew]

Update: Strike Force Ashfordby​

Sunday, 25 February 2024 09:56:08 PM

As part of the ongoing investigation by Strike Force Ashfordby, police have established a crime scene at Hazelton Road at Bungonia, in the Southern Tablelands.

Divers from the Marine Area Command were called to the scene and have today been assisting with a search at the location.

That search has now been suspended and will resume tomorrow morning (Monday 26 February 2024).

There is no further information available at this time.

Anyone with information about this incident is urged to contact Crime Stoppers: 1800 333 000 or Crime Stoppers NSW – Report Criminal Information. Information is treated in strict confidence. The public is reminded not to report information via NSW Police social media pages.

 

[BFew]

Strike Force Ashfordby, police have established a crime scene at Hazelton Road at Bungonia, in the Southern Tablelands.

 

[BFew]

Can't see any big dams near Hazelton Road.
Lots of small ones though.

 

[Kurve]

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There's a three or four dams along there but they look like they're on private property.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

You’d have to be as dumb as a bucket of hammers to plan to kill someone you could easily be linked to with your own service weapon inside a house they rent from your mother. It makes more sense to plan to use it to gain control of a situation that then goes badly wrong. He probably had something more elaborate and personal in mind.


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Where was it reported that the house Baird rented was owned by Lamarre's mother?

 

[BFew]

Where was it reported that the house Baird rented was owned by Lamarre's mother?

I'm not going to take this assertion as fact unless it comes from someone who has a copy of the current property title search for the address (costs $35 to order one online).

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I'm not going to take this assertion as fact unless it comes from someone who has a copy of the current property title search for the address (costs $35 to order one online).

Well that's why I asked the person who posted it where they saw it reported.

I've only seen that the property searched in Balmain was where Lamarre was living/staying & that was the family home.

 

[BFew]

Well that's why I asked the person who posted it where they saw it reported.

I've only seen that the property searched in Balmain was where Lamarre was living/staying & that was the family home.

annawinter608 probably just got innocently mixed up with reports of who lived at/owned the Balmain property.

 

[BFew]

The accused should get someone like this Grays Point based Criminal Defence Lawyer to defend him.

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[BFew]

The Daily Telegraph has been told that last Sunday, Constable Lamarre-Condon checked the weapon out of Miranda station, where he was based, to perform duties at a pro-Palestinian rally in the CBD which the organiser was paying the NSW Police Force for its services.

Performing a user pays shift gives an officer more autonomy than when they are on normal duties and sometimes assigned to a team or partner when they leave the station.

Police allege that between midnight on Monday and 5pm that day, Constable Lamarre-Condon, 28, fired the weapon at least once inside the Paddington home of his one-time lover and television presenter Jesse Baird, 26.

So did Constable Lamarre-Condon after he had done his work at a pro-Palestinian rally in the CBD, go back to either
1. normal duties Sunday work, or
2. was then off duty, but failed to check his work hand-gun back in like he should have immediately he had finished his work at a pro-Palestinian rally in the CBD on Sunday?

Or is there some approved arrangement that allows them to keep the handgun overnight on Sundays?

Edit: Partial answer below.

Police investigate possession of police handgun allegedly used in murder of Sydney couple

NSW police commissioner Karen Webb expresses ‘heartfelt condolences’ to the families and friends of alleged murder victims Jesse Baird and Luke Davies

www.theguardian.com

'Police officers are allowed to take home their service firearms in some circumstances, but must comply with guidelines. Doherty told reporters that officers “can get authority” to possess weapons off-duty, “but we’re not saying that’s the case in this matter”.'

FIREARMS REGULATION 2017 - REG 130 Exemption relating to off-duty police officers

classic.austlii.edu.au

FIREARMS REGULATION 2017 - REG 130​

Exemption relating to off-duty police officers

130 Exemption relating to off-duty police officers​

(1) Any police officer who is in possession of a service firearm while the police officer is not on duty as a police officer is exempt from the requirement under the Act to be authorised by a licence or permit to possess the firearm during any such period.

(2) The exemption under this clause is subject to the police officer complying with such guidelines as may be issued by the Commissioner with respect to the off-duty possession of service firearms by police officers.

(3) In this clause--

"service firearm" means a firearm issued to a police officer in his or her capacity as a police officer.

 

[revo333]

Looked after actually means heaps of time alone probably in solitary etc..
really s**t life really.(deserves it if guilty)

Sounds better than being paranoid everyday about getting your head kicked in.

 

[nobbyiscool]

Don’t understand why he doesn’t just tell the cops where the bodies are.


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It's related to the often psychotic notion of power.

He exercised as much power as possible over Jesse Baird in life and in the moment of his death (allegedly), and now in the days after his death he views those bodies and that knowledge as "his".

I doubt it's even to do with wanting evidence to corrode, he seems more than crazy enough that it wouldn't have even occurred to him, and the only consideration "ownership" over those bodies.

 

[annawinter608]

The years lease ends next Friday. I wonder if that was a factor. If the ex moved to a different house arrangement that L. didn't know the layout/security of. Nowhere does it say that L's mother owned the house. I don't think it is true.

It was reported in two or three articles on about Thursday or Friday, in the context of Jesse Baird’s move to Sydney from Brisbane. I remember thinking that renting from the ex’s mother probably gave the ex access to the house without needing to break in.

I can’t see it in any current articles and it may not have been correct. It could have been one of those details that are wrongly reported when stories first break and get repeated by other articles.


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[Pamcake1]

It was reported in two or three articles on about Thursday or Friday, in the context of Jesse Baird’s move to Sydney from Brisbane. I remember thinking that renting from the ex’s mother probably gave the ex access to the house without needing to break in.

I can’t see it in any current articles and it may not have been correct. It could have been one of those details that are wrongly reported when stories first break and get repeated by other articles.


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It was one of those details that was wrongly reported. It is not correct. Regards.

 

[Pamcake1]

So did Constable Lamarre-Condon after he had done his work at a pro-Palestinian rally in the CBD, go back to either
1. normal duties Sunday work, or
2. was then off duty, but failed to check his work hand-gun back in like he should have immediately he had finished his work at a pro-Palestinian rally in the CBD on Sunday?

Or is there some approved arrangement that allows them to keep the handgun overnight on Sundays?

Edit: Partial answer below.

Police investigate possession of police handgun allegedly used in murder of Sydney couple

NSW police commissioner Karen Webb expresses ‘heartfelt condolences’ to the families and friends of alleged murder victims Jesse Baird and Luke Davies

www.theguardian.com

'Police officers are allowed to take home their service firearms in some circumstances, but must comply with guidelines. Doherty told reporters that officers “can get authority” to possess weapons off-duty, “but we’re not saying that’s the case in this matter”.'

FIREARMS REGULATION 2017 - REG 130 Exemption relating to off-duty police officers

classic.austlii.edu.au

FIREARMS REGULATION 2017 - REG 130​

Exemption relating to off-duty police officers

130 Exemption relating to off-duty police officers​

Just heard on ABC radio Melbourne that the NSW police force have asked the Victorian police force to review their (NSW) gun protocols.