Current Murder of Luke Davies & Jesse Baird AFL Goal Umpire & ex Ch 10 Presenter * Stalker Cop Charged

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TIMELINE

Thursday 16 February:
Service revolver obtained for user pays event. Was stored at mother's as per regulations.

Sunday 19 February: User pays event.

Monday 20 February: The murders at Baird's Paddington rental.

Monday 19 February: Police have alleged gunshots were heard from a house in Paddington, Sydney in the morning. Four minutes after the first shots were fired there was a 000 call made from Jessie's phone around 9.45am, but it disconnected. Police said there was "no communication" during that call.

Monday evening: Police have alleged Lamarre-Condon hired a white Hiace van from Sydney Airport.

Tuesday 20 February: Police have alleged that partial admissions were made by Lamarre-Condon to an acquaintance of having been involved in the death of two individuals.

Service revolver was returned to Balmain & later transferred to original storage.

Wednesday 21 February: Bloodied clothing belonging to both victims and an $8000 watch were found in a skip bin in the southern Sydney suburb of Cronulla. Police launch a missing persons investigation and the homicide unit is notified

Later same Wednesday: Police have alleged Lamarre-Condon attended the Bungonia area with an acquaintance who police believed assisted him in purchasing an angle grinder and padlock from a local hardware store in that area, before driving to a rural property in Bungonia.

Police said the "small" angle grinder was used to sever a padlock from the gate of that particular rural property and then that padlock was replaced with a padlock purchased from the hardware store.

The acquaintance was left at the top of the property for 30 minutes. The accused disappeared for that period in the Hiace van, returning to pick up the acquaintance and then they returned to Sydney later that afternoon. Police said the acquaintance was assisting them in their inquiries, that she is not a suspect, and they believe she was an "innocent agent".

Wednesday 11pm: Police have said that evening, weights were purchased from a department store by the accused and it is believed that the accused returned to that rural property overnight and during that evening, having also acquired two torches from the acquaintance.

Thursday 22 February: Police have alleged they can place the accused leaving the Bungonia area again at 4.30am. "It would appear that the accused has remained in the city area, still in control of the white Hiace van, before attending a further acquaintance's premises in the Newcastle area and without fully disclosing any criminality, asked access to a hose to clean that van," Hudson said.

Friday 23 February: At 10.39am, Lamarre-Condon presents himself at Bondi Police Station where he was arrested and subsequently charged.

 
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being a police officer is statistically one of the safest jobs in australia in terms of likelihood of death. you arent going to war bro.

I'm not trying to defend that poster, but if a family member of mine was a police officer, not sure I sleep well at night. Statistically safe? Maybe. The mental strain of being any emergency worker (I do know ambos and firies - have some in the family) is extremely high. And can be debilitating.
 
Oh OK, maybe it's just me. Why go to so much trouble to hide the bodies, but put your hand up for the murders?
When did he put his hand up for the murders? The police & media had identified him as being connected to Jesse on the Thursday. He had partially confessed to a friend. He presented at the police station on the Friday morning & was promptly arrested & charged. And he spent days in custody not co-operating.

"The police assistant commissioner Michael Fitzgerald said Tuesday morning was the first time since he had been arrested that Lamarre had “willingly told us information”, after he obtained a lawyer."

He hid the bodies because he likely didn't think he'd be identified as being connected so quickly, if at all.

The guy is obviously delusional about many things.
 
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Oh OK, maybe it's just me. Why go to so much trouble to hide the bodies, but put your hand up for the murders?
Maybe thought he was a chance to get away with it. By signing out the gun it seems premeditated. Maybe he wanted to appear tough and make threats, they went for him, one got shot, then the other did too. I wonder if he had any bruises that might indicate they fought back. Weird how nobody heard any shouting or loud voices, and the shots were ignored.
 
Maybe thought he was a chance to get away with it. By signing out the gun it seems premeditated. Maybe he wanted to appear tough and make threats, they went for him, one got shot, then the other did too. I wonder if he had any bruises that might indicate they fought back. Weird how nobody heard any shouting or loud voices, and the shots were ignored.
Neighbours have said they heard loud voices. And loud music.
 
I'm not trying to defend that poster, but if a family member of mine was a police officer, not sure I sleep well at night. Statistically safe? Maybe. The mental strain of being any emergency worker (I do know ambos and firies - have some in the family) is extremely high. And can be debilitating.
Jockeys are statistically safe too.

But the ambulance still follows them around every race.
 
I'm not trying to defend that poster, but if a family member of mine was a police officer, not sure I sleep well at night. Statistically safe? Maybe. The mental strain of being any emergency worker (I do know ambos and firies - have some in the family) is extremely high. And can be debilitating.
the prospects of harm from a police officer onto a regular member of the public is much higher than the inverse occurring. these people are extremely well looked after and often protected even when they breach their duty or step beyond their ambit. most of them work behind desks or in low risk environments for the vast majority of their careers.


no comment on other emergency services occupations
Spoken like someone who has no idea.

And never will.
please share the data that disproves my point. ill even take news stories. find me 10 examples of police officers dying on the job in Australia where their police work was the causative reason in the last 5 years. 2 a year should prove plenty to show that there is a genuine risk of not returning home as a police officer.

ill give you a head start - no police officer has died in new south wales due to their work as a police officer in the last 5 years
 
NSW Pol getting off very lightly by the media here.
Very poignant moment today when a NSW top brass police officer stated.
"It's fair to say we've had worldwide interest in this case".

I thought who cares and so what that it's got world wide interest.
But he seemed to think the interest was of some importance.
I just don't understand the thinking and reasoning behind the statement.
 
the prospects of harm from a police officer onto a regular member of the public is much higher than the inverse occurring. these people are extremely well looked after and often protected even when they breach their duty or step beyond their ambit. most of them work behind desks or in low risk environments for the vast majority of their careers.


no comment on other emergency services occupations

please share the data that disproves my point. ill even take news stories. find me 10 examples of police officers dying on the job in Australia where their police work was the causative reason in the last 5 years. 2 a year should prove plenty to show that there is a genuine risk of not returning home as a police officer.

ill give you a head start - no police officer has died in new south wales due to their work as a police officer in the last 5 years
The risk of harm is real and relatively high, even if the likelihood of death is low. There was this big aboriginal ex-con on William street just two days ago, walking around shirtless, pushing his much younger girlfriend around, swearing, ranting and air boxing (with obvious considerable strength). I'm not a big guy but I'm not small either, and I was very glad it wasn't going to be me who had to restrain him and bring him to heel. That's somebody's job and they deal with that s##t all the time. I don't know what you do for a crust but I don't have to worry every shift about possibly coming home injured (or spat on - eww).
 
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There was this big aborignal ex-con on William street just two days ago, walking around shirtless, pushing his much younger girlfriend around, swearing, ranting and air boxing (with obvious considerable strength).
... How do you know this person is a convicted criminal?
 
When did he put his hand up for the murders? The police & media had identified him as being connected to Jesse on the Thursday. He had partially confessed to a friend. He presented at the police station on the Friday morning & was promptly arrested & charged. And he spent days in custody not co-operating.

"The police assistant commissioner Michael Fitzgerald said Tuesday morning was the first time since he had been arrested that Lamarre had “willingly told us information”, after he obtained a lawyer."

He hid the bodies because he likely didn't think he'd be identified as being connected so quickly, if at all.

The guy is obviously delusional about many things.
Ok, I obviously misinterpreted what I read that he turned himself in after.
 
Very poignant moment today when a NSW top brass police officer stated.
"It's fair to say we've had worldwide interest in this case".

I thought who cares and so what that it's got world wide interest.
But he seemed to think the interest was of some importance.
I just don't understand the thinking and reasoning behind the statement.
It’s a salacious case - great click potential.
 

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Prison tatoos.
That's handy.

In any case, the police do not owe a duty of care to individual members of the public who suffer as a result of the criminal’s activity. IE they don't actually need to step in. I've seen Vic Pol ignore a violent crime to protect themselves, even though they (the police) were carrying guns.
 
Really? What is their job description/ role/ KPIs?
No idea.

Sounds like a bit of a grey area. Technically, the police have to do something if members of the community are at risk by not apprehending a criminal, but if not, they don't have to intervene. But in the instance of a violent criminal being allowed to walk off... it's all a bit catch 22. But if there's no immediate danger to someone they can let it go.

I had to give an interview over an assault I witnessed and had a good ol' fashioned bitch at the cops who let the perps walk off and was told the officers acted within their rights not to intervene. Was pretty shocked at it.
 
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the prospects of harm from a police officer onto a regular member of the public is much higher than the inverse occurring. these people are extremely well looked after and often protected even when they breach their duty or step beyond their ambit. most of them work behind desks or in low risk environments for the vast majority of their careers.


no comment on other emergency services occupations

please share the data that disproves my point. ill even take news stories. find me 10 examples of police officers dying on the job in Australia where their police work was the causative reason in the last 5 years. 2 a year should prove plenty to show that there is a genuine risk of not returning home as a police officer.

ill give you a head start - no police officer has died in new south wales due to their work as a police officer in the last 5 years
What data? You clearly know it all
 
Ok, I obviously misinterpreted what I read that he turned himself in after.
He's a police officer, so he had to turn up to work at some point...

The murders were committed on Monday. He was named & identified as being connected to Jesse on the Thursday in the media.

If he didn't present to police either as an employee or to answer questions pretty soon after being named in the media, it was going to look pretty sus for him...

By all accounts he was not co-operative, so perhaps he was surprised by the amount of evidence the police had on him when he arrived on the Friday.

I don't believe he went to the police to confess, for example.
 
Neighbours have said they heard loud voices. And loud music.
The youngish female next door neighbour (No. 58 when you match up the front door area to Google street view) is on film saying she heard loud music just after 5pm Monday (as she arrived home from work) coming from the crime scene (No. 60)
See here for news video evidence of this in my post on this on Sunday.
 
The youngish female next door neighbour (No. 58 when you match up the front door area to Google street view) is on film saying she heard loud music just after 5pm Monday (as she arrived home from work) coming from the crime scene (No. 60)
See here for news video evidence of this in my post on this on Sunday.
That's why I said neighbours said they heard music..
 
A surfboard bag/cover was purchased from Miranda Decathlon by the accused, 2 days before he murdered Luke and Jesse.
He went back and bought a 2nd surfboard bag after he killed them both.

There you go for the premeditation evidence!.


 
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