Nathan Brown trade value ?

[tugga]

Nobody's actually answered peejay's original thread yet and I'm afraid I can't contribute much to it. I would see Brown as somewhat damaged goods in that he suffered one of the worst leg breaks imaginable. Purely and simply that has to be a question mark hanging over him if/when he recaptures his best form. Right now I'd say his trade value is limited. If he puts in a blinder of a 2007 then it goes up. By limited I don't mean he is currently worthless...far from it. I just don't know what he would get. TW would never give away his love child anyways.

 

[itsintheblood]

I am sure he will but it is an attitude like this that cost us the chance to get Plugger when he said that he wanted to come to us.

I asked the question what would we get for him.

I am interested to know what people think we would get for him.

He would prabably fail a lot of key tests if he was put thru a proper, pre-trade medical right now. Having said that, we could no doubt get a top 15 pick for him and a decent player.

 

[Darth_Tiger]

he wouldnt be traded. ridiculous notion, even hypothetically.

 

[Truetiger]

Pathetic thread...... when the fully fit N.G.Brown is doing party tricks for us next yr along with Aka ...this thread will be nowhere to be seen and the thought of trading Brown long into oblivion.

 

[Kurtis G]

To be putting young and, while promising, unproven young guys on the untouchables list.

Think about it, untouchable players are players you would never trade, or are at the wrong end of their careers to be traded.

Untouchables: J. Bowden, Richardson, Kelleway, Johnson, Brown

Ofcourse there are many others who will soon be close such as Newman and Deledio (yeah I know he's young, but he's a proven player), but saying the likes of Pettifer and Tambling are untouchable is silly.

Also I notice Coughlan was at the top of everyones untouchable list last year and the year before, am I sensing some discontent?

 

[CoggaRules]

Its pretty easy to make your list of untouchables, just think about who you wouldnt want the tigers to front up against, in an opposition jumper.
You would be surprised how much tossing around yu would have to do when it came to players that are always suggested as untouchable. Top of my untouchable list would be Brownie, Simmo, and the young kids in the team right now and Thursfield. Out of respect for chubba as defender, he also makes it. The rest i would have to toss aorund a little. Not that it matters, because he has yellow and black running through his veins, but that also includes you know who.

 

[Tyger]

If we were to trade:
Question mark over wether or not he will ever recapture his brilliance.
He is coming up 29.
Has a lot of external interests. Footy may not be his number 1 focus.
Injury may have long term effects.

At a stab we would get a third rounder and 2 unproven youngun's.

 

[DyerBolical]

To be putting young and, while promising, unproven young guys on the untouchables list.

Think about it, untouchable players are players you would never trade, or are at the wrong end of their careers to be traded.

Untouchables: J. Bowden, Richardson, Kelleway, Johnson, Brown

Ofcourse there are many others who will soon be close such as Newman and Deledio (yeah I know he's young, but he's a proven player), but saying the likes of Pettifer and Tambling are untouchable is silly.

Also I notice Coughlan was at the top of everyones untouchable list last year and the year before, am I sensing some discontent?

If you would contemplate trading Tambling you're crazy and know nothing about football. Tambo,Raines,Delideo and Polo are the future of our club. I think the Dirty Sanchez your missus gave you last night is affecting your brain.

 

[Kurtis G]

If you would contemplate trading Tambling you're crazy and know nothing about football. Tambo,Raines,Delideo and Polo are the future of our club. I think the Dirty Sanchez your missus gave you last night is affecting your brain.

You bloody idiot.

Yes I am not willing to put unproven players on the "untouchable" list.... I know nothing about football.

Think about what untouchable is DyerBolical, you cannot and will not trade no matter what is offered. I think it takes more than a couple of promising games to make that list.

I am not suggesting we trade Tambling fool, get some perspective.

 

[The White Tiger]

To be putting young and, while promising, unproven young guys on the untouchables list.

Think about it, untouchable players are players you would never trade, or are at the wrong end of their careers to be traded.

Untouchables: J. Bowden, Richardson, Kelleway, Johnson, Brown

Ofcourse there are many others who will soon be close such as Newman and Deledio (yeah I know he's young, but he's a proven player), but saying the likes of Pettifer and Tambling are untouchable is silly.

Also I notice Coughlan was at the top of everyones untouchable list last year and the year before, am I sensing some discontent?

If i read correctly your saying everyone is tradeable except the above 5,therefore your implying eveyone else is tradeable, you cant have it both ways mate. Dyerbolical is saying that any reasonable supporter would not even consider Tambo,Lids,Raines and Polo up for any trade whatsoever, i'd have to agree with him.

 

[DyerBolical]

You bloody idiot.

Yes I am not willing to put unproven players on the "untouchable" list.... I know nothing about football.

Think about what untouchable is DyerBolical, you cannot and will not trade no matter what is offered. I think it takes more than a couple of promising games to make that list.

I am not suggesting we trade Tambling fool, get some perspective.

You just proved my point-you know nothing about football flesh boy. Tambling,lids,Raines and Polo are UNTOUCHABLE.Your arguments are self defeating- now off to get your daily Tossed Salad from your daddy.

 

[Kurtis G]

If i read correctly your saying everyone is tradeable except the above 5,therefore your implying eveyone else is tradeable, you cant have it both ways mate. Dyerbolical is saying that any reasonable supporter would not even consider Tambo,Lids,Raines and Polo up for any trade whatsoever, i'd have to agree with him.

Well yes, everyone is tradeable in the scheme of things. I wouldnt not and dont want to see Bling go, but he is not a proven player yet and has not reached untouchable status. He may be untouchable because of the stage of his career that he is in, but he is certainly not one of the untouchables.

My point was "untouchables" should be proven match winners who have a status at the club. Johnson - captain, Richo - star forward, father son connection, Kelleway - club stalwart, Bowden - dual B+F, father son connection, Brown - big name recruit, proven match winner, past his best (more value to us than anyone else) and Simmonds - Number 1 Ruckman.

The board would have scoffed if someone put Cogs up for trade mention in the previous two off-seasons, but not one person has mentioned him as untouchable this time around. Things do change.

 

[Kurtis G]

You just proved my point-you know nothing about football flesh boy. Tambling,lids,Raines and Polo are UNTOUCHABLE.Your arguments are self defeating- now off to get your daily Tossed Salad from your daddy.

Im not sure what is with your poor efforts at personal insults, but if that is how you treat everyone you come across with a different perspective than yours then you have some issues im afraid.

Tambling, Lids, Raines and Polo are untouchable in the sense that their careers are only just starting out, and letting them go at this stage would not see us reap the full rewards of a trade, but unless you are of a particular status around the club you are not untouchable.

Surely someone who follows the world of footy as much as your mighty should know this, given what has happened during tade week in past years.

 

[DyerBolical]

Think about it, untouchable players are players you would never trade, or are at the wrong end of their careers to be traded.

Your words, not mine, the fab five are "at the wrong end of their careers to be traded" . Off to bed child , its past your bedtime.

 

[Kurtis G]

Your words, not mine, the fab five are "at the wrong end of their careers to be traded" . Off to bed child , its past your bedtime.

So are you saying to me that not one of our top five draft picks in 2004 will ever be traded or seriously considered for a trade by the club?

You really are going around in circles. I cant make proper sense of what your saying. You seem so keen to throw in an insult you forget your point of view. Grow up short mans syndrome.

 

[Tyger]

Any player is tradeable if the deal is right. Footy is a business and, sadly, I don't think sentiment has a great deal to do with it.
If Judd wanted to come home, WestCoast would have the pick of our list and our first draft pick.
If Jonathon Brown was in Akers shoes and named us as his preferred club, no one on our list would be safe.

 

[Kurtis G]

Any player is tradeable if the deal is right. Footy is a business and, sadly, I don't think sentiment has a great deal to do with it.
If Judd wanted to come home, WestCoast would have the pick of our list and our first draft pick.
If Jonathon Brown was in Akers shoes and named us as his preferred club, no one on our list would be safe.

As unfortunate as it is, that is basically correct.

 

[DyerBolical]

So are you saying to me that not one of our top five draft picks in 2004 will ever be traded or seriously considered for a trade by the club? You really are going around in circles. I cant make proper sense of what your saying.

Read carefully, i understand you are dyslexic so get mummy to help if you can. I never said they cant be traded ever so dont put words in my mouth. You stated that pettifer and tambling couldnt be "untouchable", i disagreed in regards to your qualification as to the "wrong end of their careers" in relation to Tambling,raines lids and polo, they fit YOUR criteria, not mine. Now you agree with Tyger there are no untouchables. It is you who are going around in circles contradicting your own arguments and lickin arse which proves my point, you really are into tossed salads.

 

[The White Tiger]

Think about it, untouchable players are players you would never trade, or are at the wrong end of their careers to be traded. but saying the likes of Pettifer and Tambling are untouchable is silly.

Sorry Kurtis, dyerbolical is right you are contradicting yourself,all he was doing was agreeing with your point that players at certain stages of their careers are untouchable, Tambling the case in point. he never suggested they cant ever be traded. I think what he was trying to say was, you woudnt trade the young guys you just drafted until after they have been given a fair go especially when you are trying to develop a list.

 

[hazza05]

Pathetic thread...... when the fully fit N.G.Brown is doing party tricks for us next yr along with Aka ...this thread will be nowhere to be seen and the thought of trading Brown long into oblivion.

i agree i am sick of him he represents immaturity to our club need to bring strong leading characters that do not make themselves seem like clowns outside the football arena.men like buckley and judd are a good example,stuff him and get rid of him he will be great in glimpses but he will take the club backwards.

 

[The Knowledge]

i agree i am sick of him he represents immaturity to our club need to bring strong leading characters that do not make themselves seem like clowns outside the football arena.men like buckley and judd are a good example,stuff him and get rid of him he will be great in glimpses but he will take the club backwards.

speaking of browny, is he back this week?

www.afl.com.au said hes gone for season in an article, but he was a week away last week

is he training?

 

[Kurtis G]

Sorry Kurtis, dyerbolical is right you are contradicting yourself,all he was doing was agreeing with your point that players at certain stages of their careers are untouchable, Tambling the case in point. he never suggested they cant ever be traded. I think what he was trying to say was, you woudnt trade the young guys you just drafted until after they have been given a fair go especially when you are trying to develop a list.

White Tiger. There is a difference between untouchable and untradeable. Thats the point I was trying to express, but I think I may have chosen a couple of wrong words. Untouchables should only be players with a particular status at the club such as the players I outllined Richo, Sugar, Bowden etc. Tambling, Raines etc are not untouchable, but I do agree are untradeable in the sense that they wont be shopped around. Yes I agree with that point.

 

[CoggaRules]

White Tiger. There is a difference between untouchable and untradeable. Thats the point I was trying to express, but I think I may have chosen a couple of wrong words. Untouchables should only be players with a particular status at the club such as the players I outllined Richo, Sugar, Bowden etc. Tambling, Raines etc are not untouchable, but I do agree are untradeable in the sense that they wont be shopped around. Yes I agree with that point.

what you might be suggesting is that untouchables will not be sussed out by other clubs, and untradables will, but wont be tradedable.

 

[diggler]

Get rid of him before its to late.
His recruitment has been an absolute failure and there are no guarantees that he will recapture his fleeting form of last year.
With Richo and Brown as key forwards, the side resembles Dads Army.

 

[tomthetiger]

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Ok maybe not but I gave it a go..