New AFL site (suggestions, complaints and compliments)

[dont bowl there]

Or maybe it's because the Crows have a higher Points Against score.

Nah its because Crows have a beter %, the AFL site just doesnt show that.

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

Nah its because Crows have a beter %, the AFL site just doesnt show that.

And here i was thinking it was because CROWS has less letters than SAINTS.....

 

[red+black]

This mob must be in charge of the RealFooty Ladder also

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ladder/

No percentage column at all!!!! Just a +/- column!!!! Who employs these monkeys?

 

[dont bowl there]

And here i was thinking it was because CROWS has less letters than SAINTS.....

That could well be the reason knowing the afl website, maybe the fact that the Crows have a beter % is just a coincidence.

 

[red+black]

Nah its because Crows have a beter %, the AFL site just doesnt show that.

that's sorta my point. the ladder could do with some improvement.

 

[dont bowl there]

This mob must be in charge of the RealFooty Ladder also

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ladder/

No percentage column at all!!!! Just a +/- column!!!! Who employs these monkeys?

That is stupid, a team can have a worse difference but still have a beter %. Wow it seems that poor afl sites are everywhere.

 

[red+black]

Better ladders:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/seas/2007.html#lad
http://finalsiren.com/AFLLadder.asp

Although it wouldn't hurt the FinalSiren guys to spread things out a bit.

 

[dont bowl there]

None of those are really good ladders. People only really want to see a simple ladder. The AFL website would be a good one IF they made the % column to 1 decimile point.

 

[red+black]

People only really want to see a simple ladder.

I agree and disagree. A good site should provide a simple and detailed ladder

Simple: http://www.footywire.com/
Detailed: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder

afl.com.au provides two ladders and neither are very good.

 

[dont bowl there]

I agree and disagree. A good site should provide a simple and detailed ladder

Simple: http://www.footywire.com/
Detailed: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_ladder

afl.com.au provides two ladders and neither are very good.

Yeah, i think the AFL website last year had a simple ladder and a detailed ladder. The simple one showed everything you need, the detailed one added a few extra things.

 

[Linda Crescent]

sldavey, thanks for “valuing our feedback”.

I have issues with the AFL site like others who have written to you. Mine aren’t technical, they’re design related. I wonder if readers of this post will agree with me – please post if you do, or don’t!

I appreciate the website is being developed and constructed in NSW and I therefore assume some people who are working on it probably have little or no history of Australian Rules (disturbing to say the least – dumb, if this is so).

Anyway, permit me to make a few suggestions about the presentation of the Ladder(s) on the site. Not about positioning on the front page (although I find this questionable), more specifically, the fine detail in the ladder(s).

Can you instruct the 'developers' of the site to be consistent when it comes to the naming (descriptions and titles) of the Australian Football League clubs? My bottom line is this; please spell out the AFL Club names in ladders on the site. Am I being pedantic, I hope not? I’ll try to explain…

If I was from Mars, (some think I am) or a young kid, or simply AFL curious I may not have a clue what i.e. 'ADE' stands for or what 'GEE' does on the front page ladder, so, I'd probably click the 'Full Ladder' button. When I do this, I get a completely different language. For example, 'ADE' becomes 'CROWS' and 'GEE' becomes 'CATS' – no connection to the acronyms, no connection to team colour.

How about spelling the AFL club names formally, in all instances in ladders?

Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn and all the other club names are beautiful and have real history. They belong to people, places and communities, the monikers on the ‘Full Ladder’ don’t. They’re nicknames.

PS. Please add at least two decimal points to the club percentages in the full ladder. I’m sure many people miss this detail from the previous AFL site

PPS. Reluctantly, I’ve had to install Firefox to view the new website without glitches – it works in this browser.

 

[red+black]

Can you instruct the 'developers' of the site to be consistent when it comes to the naming (descriptions and titles) of the Australian Football League clubs? My bottom line is this; please spell out the AFL Club names in ladders on the site. Am I being pedantic, I hope not? I’ll try to explain…

PS. Please add at least two decimal points to the club percentages in the full ladder. I’m sure many people miss this detail from the previous AFL site

PPS. Reluctantly, I’ve had to install Firefox to view the new website without glitches – it works in this browser.

First of all, the words reluctant and Firefox do not belong in the same sentence.

Your others points have been made previously, and yes, I agree with them. A professional website should not list team nicknames in the ladder. Compare with the NFL, NBA, EPL sites. They don't list Blues, Reds, Tigers, Lions, "Freo", etc, they list club names.

Something as simple as the ladder, which afl.com.au has implemented in an utterly shoddy manner, is a perfect example of how poor the overall site is. The developers can't get the (very) simple things right, and with the passing of time, make no attempt to improve the simple things.

 

[red+black]

And while I'm gasbagging, can someone get word to the idiots at The Age to fix their ladder:

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ladder/

Get rid of the points difference column and put in a bloody percentage column . Obviously developed by Sydney based NRL dicks.

EDIT: I emailed them:

Who implemented the AFL Ladder? What's with the +/- column? This isn't rugby league. WE DO NOT USE A POINTS DIFFERENCE COLUMN IN AFL. Get rid of it, put it a percentage column. Aussie Rules has only been around for 150 years, I would expect you guys to know how to construct a ladder.

 

[Linda Crescent]

'red+black', thanks for your response to my post.

Firefox or other browsers aside, I hope to receive a response to my post from 'sldavey'. I reckon my points are legit and ring true with others on BF.

Have to wait and see.

 

[The Sultan]

has anyone had one postitive thing to say about the AFL website yet!!.

 

[red+black]

And while I'm gasbagging, can someone get word to the idiots at The Age to fix their ladder:

http://www.realfooty.com.au/ladder/

Get rid of the points difference column and put in a bloody percentage column . Obviously developed by Sydney based NRL dicks.

EDIT: I emailed them:

Who implemented the AFL Ladder? What's with the +/- column? This isn't rugby league. WE DO NOT USE A POINTS DIFFERENCE COLUMN IN AFL. Get rid of it, put it a percentage column. Aussie Rules has only been around for 150 years, I would expect you guys to know how to construct a ladder.

Evidence that NRL dicks are behind the RealFooty site:

 

[Linda Crescent]

‘sldavey’, further to my recent posts #963 and 966,

I just noticed on the NRL website clubs are listed as monikers (nicknames) i.e.; Sea Eagles, Storm, Cowboys, Warriors, Rabbitohs Eels, Titans, Nights etc in the full ladder.

In the full ladder on the new AFL website clubs are now listed in the same way (by nickname). Did the change from AFL club name to nickname happen by chance or was the NRL site ladder design intentionally mirrored by your team? Furthermore, why the change to nicknames anyway?

Please revert to the AFL Club names in the full ladder, don't use nicknames.

 

[red+black]

In the full ladder on the new AFL website clubs are now listed in the same way (by nickname). Did the change from AFL club name to nickname happen by chance or was the NRL site ladder design deliberately mirrored by your team? Furthermore, why the change to nicknames anyway?

Please revert to the AFL Club names in the full ladder, don't use nicknames.

I agree. Just note that the pics I posted are of no relation to afl.com.au, but you are correct that the NRL site uses team monikers:

http://www.nrl.com/Season2007/Season2006/SeasonLadder/tabid/383/Default.aspx

And as we can see, the Einsteins in charge of nrl.com have their own problems when it comes to creating a ladder.

 

[Linda Crescent]

'red+black' wrote "I agree. Just note that the pics I posted are of no relation to afl.com.au"

Noted before I posted #966. Also, I agree with you completely (sure many others do too) re detail in the 'realfooty' AFL ladder. I get the connection but this discussion belongs in a seperate thread.

Cheers.

 

[dreamkillers]

I gather with all the problems no-one has time to do any proof reading of articles that are put up as some of your previews have people named as players that are yet to play a game of football let alone be on an AFL team list..........

 

[DIG]

has anyone had one postitive thing to say about the AFL website yet!!.

I actually like the gameday section - good for getting stats during games, but there should be a html option like last year.

aside from that the site absolutely sux:

- Homepage has f-all useful information.
- It's difficult to find more than 5 news articles.
- I don't think there's any info on previous drafts anywhere.
- Homepage doesn't even show where the next games are.

Plenty more problems but i'm sure 1000 posts in they've all been complained about already here.

Worst afl site i've seen since it's inception last century.

 

[PumpyChowdown]

There's a gazillon moving parts to afl.com

Therein lies one major problem. Why? Methinks it's techwizardry run amok.

There are more than 30 companies that 'touch' afl.com.

Too many cooks. Too many cooks.

I do appreciate your feedback Sandy, it mustn't be easy for you. However it's blatantly obvious to all and sundry that the current afl.com.au is a very poor site, lacking the nuts and bolts that AFL footy lovers want (data, stats, history, news, ease of navigation etc.) and it's also obvious that it has some very serious technical issues.

What are the chances of actually stripping the site back to basics and mabye employing Victorians (or at least AFL nuts) to develop the site?

 

[Alphanumeric]

Sandy is there any reason why the player stats side of GameDayLive doesn't update automatically??

I'm sure can notice that Murphy has kicked a goal and a behind. But for that to reflect in his stats, I have to click on the 'view Richmond players' button, and then go back to the Bulldogs stats.

Have any of your developers noticed this?? It's been happening since Round 1 by the way.

 

[PHX]

I found a way to make AFL audio work.

Roll back to Windows Media Player 10.

 

[bestandfairest]

Sandy is there any reason why the player stats side of GameDayLive doesn't update automatically??

I'm sure can notice that Murphy has kicked a goal and a behind. But for that to reflect in his stats, I have to click on the 'view Richmond players' button, and then go back to the Bulldogs stats.

Have any of your developers noticed this?? It's been happening since Round 1 by the way.

i would bet it is a processor load issue. seems like a reasonable thing but would probably slow your machine down to a crawl. it happens on all of the stats entries so i would think there is a reason for it.