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Next Collingwood Captain
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I'd be very disappointed if it went to anyone but Clement. He's earned it. He's a fine player, and still has at least a couple of seasons football left in him.
Heath Shaw has only played 50 games. Let him get another 40-odd games under his belt before we saddle him with the extra responsibility of captaincy.
Maxwell isn't a good enough player to be captain.
Heath Shaw has only played 50 games. Let him get another 40-odd games under his belt before we saddle him with the extra responsibility of captaincy.
Maxwell isn't a good enough player to be captain.
Yep agreed, Heath not ready in terms of AFL experince and Maxwell may not be garunteed a spot in the 22 in the future, notsaying that he won't be in it more that he won't be a walk in start in our best 22 as your captain should be.
As for Pendles ii know i will probably cop it for this but... Up until this season he had from many fans and his oppisition a massive "soft" tag. Vossy openly said in the commentary against brisbane Pendles is one who we marked as having a weakness at commiting to contests when they get physical. He has improved massivly this year and is by no means soft but his intensity at the physical side of the game is not one you would want from a leader.
Tarkyn_24
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I'd tip Maxwell and Lockyer as co, though I'd prefer Swan gets the job, but MM doesn't like him.
With pretty good reason, Although his attitude of late has been tip top is really not a leader by nature, a lot of poor personality traits that would make him a poor spokesperson for the club, leader to the players and rolemodel for younger players
I disagree. Pendles on the field is a beast. As the year has progressed, we've seen some anger and aggression come into his game. He is hungry, you can see it in his eyes. He is captain material.
Nothing against Nick but Pendles is tougher at the footy and does have more outright skill than Maxwell IMO. I would be sad if one of the guys who have been at the club longer (Lockyer, Burns) didn't get a chance before Maxwell
Oh and Mick doesn't like Dane Swan? Whats up with that?
Oh and Mick doesn't like Dane Swan? Whats up with that?
He is hungry and likes to fly the flag off the ball which is good for a young bloke, But i don't know i think (partly because he has such great hands n vision) that he is more likely to dish a iffy hand ball off and put another player in trouble, then he is to take the tackle himself, I don't think he has as much vigor when getting into physical contests on the ball. I think in terms of leadership Shaw has everything Pendles has and more as well as the extra experince.
Maxwell isn’t the best player in any position. As such he should be tradable for the right price. Heath Shaw is someone I’d like to see captain Collingwood but it is too early. Josh Fraser doesn’t have the game, the body, the toughness or the mental strength to captain Collingwood. His resignation from the leadership group should sound the death knell to any captaincy consideration but really he never had what it takes. Clement or Scott Burns would be fantastic captains but they are too old. Ben Johnson isn’t well spoken enough for the polished Eddie version of Collingwood. A few years ago I would have said Rocca but his form is too up and down.
I am actually quite worried about our next captain. The one after that should be Heath Shaw but there should be a few to choose from. In the mean time it will have to be Clement from next year – whether or not Buckley plays on. I strongly suspect Buckley will resign the captaincy even if he plays next year. I would be very happy to see Burns captain Collingwood , even if only for a year but I doubt it will happen.
I am actually quite worried about our next captain. The one after that should be Heath Shaw but there should be a few to choose from. In the mean time it will have to be Clement from next year – whether or not Buckley plays on. I strongly suspect Buckley will resign the captaincy even if he plays next year. I would be very happy to see Burns captain Collingwood , even if only for a year but I doubt it will happen.
The only thing, and I mean the only thing, Josh has ever had going for him in any captaincy aspirations is the fact that as a kid he spoke well in front of the camera. Other than that, he has never shown any leadership capability.
Bloben
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I agree with you that there is no real clear next captain.
I really hate to suggest this and I would think that Mick would be right against it but there may be an opportunity for co-captains.
If Buckley plays next year I think he should stay as Captain. There has never been a better leader of our team IMO and it would not be right to have him out there and not have him lead.
Clement would be the perfect replacement but may be too old. If Buckley retires at year end then he may get it for two years, otherwise I think it has to go down to one of the younger brigade.
I still think that Maxwell is our greatest leader of the younger guys. He doesn't have the ability to personally change a game but does this really have to be the role of the captain?
I think this decision is difficult as we have been spoilt with Buckley for so long!
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A fun stat - Vossy never averaged more than 2.8 tackles per game in any of the premiership years (or any between 2000-2006 in fact). Scotty Pendlebury has averaged over 3 in his first two years.
If the accusation is that he'd rather cleverly evade a tackle than get hit, he's guilty as charged. This doesn't make him soft - it just means he's talented.
My thinking's always been you give the captaincy to the best player unless he doesn't have leadership qualities. In 2 years time, unless we find someone even more special in the draft, I have no doubt that Pendlebury will be our best player (Cloke will be close - but I don't think he's captain material). He has already shown he's well-spoken (something Shaw, for one, greatly lacks), he has already shown leadership qualities with how vocal he is around the ground. Honestly, I think it's an easy choice.
collingwoody
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Guys not 100 percent sure cause I cant remember where I heard it (TV or Radio interview) But did Jimmy C say that because of his age he thought it would be better if he was overlooked for the captaincy and it was passed onto a younger guy... Or did I mishear or misinterpret that ?
Also Tarks, Heath or BJ would keep me a happy man. I would love Bucks to be captain till his last game anyway.
Also Tarks, Heath or BJ would keep me a happy man. I would love Bucks to be captain till his last game anyway.
I knew you'd come up with something like this.
Only talking sense.
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Still doesn' explain why he seems to get such little game time for such a proven ball gatherer
I see some similarties in the way west and Pendlebury play and I feel one of the reasons West was never a long serving captain at the dogs was that lack of physical pressance. I mean can you really see Pendles backing into a pack if it was called for? With any real convictions. He is not "soft" in that he does not shirk the physical sense of the game but he does not strike me as the type of guy who would put his body right on the line for the club ala Maxwell and Shaw. I dare say there won't be/isn't a great enough deal of difference in the skill levels of Shaw and Scotty and as Shawy has that real kamikaze physicality and lead by example nature I would say his shades ahead of Scotty for captaincy long term
That's a bit harsh, Shawry. In his first season, I remember Pendles filling the space in front of a rampaging Jonathan Brown. I don't have any doubts over Pendles attack on the ball.
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Ok, couple of things here. First off, I can see Pendles backing into a pack because I've already seen it. Although that's more to do with courage/stupidity - not necessarily physical presence. For physical presence, I'd give as an example Pendlebury's contest with Goodes on the wing last saturday. Goodes had been running away from and evading all our players all night long. He led Pendlebury to a loose ball out on the wing, and Pendlebury stayed on his hips the entire time, never letting Goodes break away or gather the ball cleanly. Goodes is stronger, taller, more experienced and was playing a blinder, but Pendles just refused to be beaten, you could see it on his face. Eventually Goodes had to take it out of bounds. If that's not physical presence and determination I don't know what it is.
Look, Heath Shaw is a very good player. I love watching him play. But Scott Pendlebury has the talent to win a brownlow one day. Not saying he'll do it, but he has every opportunity to be absolutely elite. He'd be a much better spokesperson for the club off the field, and already does a great job as a young leader on the field.
Like I said, for me it's clear cut. But I can understand your case as well - especially given the Shaw name. You have to remember, however, bravery doesn't necessarily mean great leadership.
RyderFahey
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Who cares collingwood suck
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Because every1 is so excited about of the young talent down at windy hill aren't they ? Your recruiting staff are in the same league as Richmonds absolutly hopeless IMO
Bloben
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The more I think about it, the more I think Maxwell.
Even how he is taking control of Collingwoods position with the AFLPA over the channel 7 boycott impresses me
Even how he is taking control of Collingwoods position with the AFLPA over the channel 7 boycott impresses me
Yes very fair call and if scotty keeps devloping in this manner would be an admirable captain. As for the bravery/leadership arguement i think heath does do a lot of on field leading as it is and is the sort of guy who leads by example. I find it funny that no one has mentioned Dale Thomas. Is already probably the most marketable player at the club not saying he should be in the captaincy mix just intresting that no one has mentioned him in the mix yet.
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You would think supporters of a club who couldn't even win a game in honour of their greatest ever captain and coach would put away their troll hats for a while.
Very fair call
