Mega Thread Nick Daicos - Can he be the GOAT? Part 2

[Kappa]

The thread is almost 10,000 posts strong and one poster has contributed almost 1500 of those posts.

Yeah, it’s hilarious the people who live in this thread part time then proclaim how they don’t really care

 

[Nepotism]

Nick Daicos isn't that good. He gets pushed around too much. He needs to put on some muscle. He is a liability in the centre bounce.

 

[Dtennent94]

Nick Daicos isn't that good. He gets pushed around too much. He needs to put on some muscle. He is a liability in the centre bounce.

Call him a seagull if you want, but Nick generally positions himself at stoppages in a way that if he gets the ball, he can run away and have a shot at goal or get a clean I50.

If you have the ability to do this as well as he does, I don’t know why you’d play any other way.

 

[sr36]

Nick Daicos isn't that good. He gets pushed around too much. He needs to put on some muscle. He is a liability in the centre bounce.

You might want to tell that to the coaches who sacrifice one of their centre bounce players to doing nothing except trying to stop Nick.

 

[Delisted]

Again... another opinion not grounded in any fact.

If you prefer to have a discussion grounded with facts rather then hyperbolic conjectures, let me suggest by introducing the fact you've posted 224 times in this thread, while I've posted 36 times.

If we are to assert your claim, that I'm really passionate about it, then your claim that:

”none of it really bothers me the way it does for you"

Is tenuous at best.

If this is non-sequitur logic you follow... I suggest your objectivity and neutrality on this subject, is not as developed as you like to paint in this thread.

Kapow!

 

[Fadge]

You might want to tell that to the coaches who sacrifice one of their centre bounce players to doing nothing except trying to stop Nick.

Or watch the centre bounce in the last 5 minutes of the 2023 Grand Final that led to the De Goey goal...

The furnace doesn't get much hotter than that...

 

[RonnieRaven]

I don't count that one (at least when Nick isn't top 3). Players dont actually vote on games. Most of them don't watch enough games to really know who was the best player of the year. Great accolade as your peers are essentially voting on how good they think you are, but it's not really set up to try to indicate who was the best player that year.

Only award the best players have won
Matthews Carey and Gablett all past winners.
Don’t have a Brownlow or Coaches award between them

 

[sr36]

Only award the best players have won
Matthews Carey and Gablett all past winners.
Don’t have a Brownlow or Coaches award between them

Of course they won it. They have the greatest reputations of players from the last 50 years and the nature of the voting for that award is that it's all about reputation.

Matthews would have won it in an era where players only got to see their own games - one in 6 games a week - yet at the end of the year they give a vote on who the best player was that year across all 6 games every week.

It's a great honour to have that respect from your peers, but the award doesn't try to add up performances for the year. It's who has the best reputation amongst the players - and clearly it's currently Bont.

 

[Kappa]

Nick Daicos isn't that good. He gets pushed around too much. He needs to put on some muscle. He is a liability in the centre bounce.

You should tell AFL coaches that, they seem to tag him for some reason !

I'm sure the coaches are the clueless muppets though, you clearly know what you're talking about

 

[sr36]

Only award the best players have won
Matthews Carey and Gablett all past winners.
Don’t have a Brownlow or Coaches award between them

Players have him at 2 currently - I agree with them TBH - assuming Bont is 1. Nick should become a lot better by the end though.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Reckon we'll get to that flop for a high tackle on his highlights reel?

 

[RCAB]

Reckon we'll get to that flop for a high tackle on his highlights reel?

I feel sorry for you.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Hows the 2m handballs so he gets the cheap 1-2 stat

 

[NorthernBastard]

Hows the 2m handballs so he gets the cheap 1-2 stat

Half of them are throws too

 

[TheUnicorn]

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Surprised he didn't handball it over the line at the end.

 

[Dtennent94]

3 Brownlow votes, 8-9 AFLCA votes (Bevo won’t give Daicos 5, he’ll give it to Libba or Darcy).

 

[RUNVS]

3 Brownlow votes, 8-9 AFLCA votes (Bevo won’t give Daicos 5, he’ll give it to Libba or Darcy).

Darcy was easily better than Daicos tonight.

People don't value goals and pack marks as much as they should, instead giving the votes to midfielders who get a lot of stats but don't really do much to influence the game. This is not a dig at Daicos as such, more a dig on how midfielders in general get preferential treatment because of the way stats are calculated than players of other positions.

 

[Dtennent94]

Darcy was easily better than Daicos tonight.

People don't value goals and pack marks as much as they should, instead giving the votes to midfielders who get a lot of stats but don't really do much to influence the game. This is not a dig at Daicos as such, more a dig on how midfielders in general get preferential treatment because of the way stats are calculated than players of other positions.

Nick’s first half was 7/10 while Darcy’s was 9/10.

Nick’s second half was 9/10 while Darcy’s was about a 3/10.

 

[Walter H White]

Looks like Farcical Fly is up to his old tricks again.

5 votes for that performance is utterly fraudulent

As if last years fudging wasnt bad enough when he was proclaimed best on by Fly in a game he would have been lucky to be in the top 10 players.

Royal Commission into Fly's fudging of the numbers is still required.

Fines, stripping of awards/premierships and even a prison sentence are possibilities for Fly's crimes.

 

[RUNVS]

Nick’s first half was 7/10 while Darcy’s was 9/10.

Nick’s second half was 9/10 while Darcy’s was about a 3/10.

Nick was completely absent when the Bulldogs were on a roll.

I am just saying 4 goals is bigger than anything Daicos did today. Goals are not valued enough in our game.

 

[bzparkes]

Royal Commission into Fly's fudging of the numbers is still required.

Fines, stripping of awards/premierships and even a prison sentence are possibilities for Fly's crimes.

It's alright, David King's on it after last week's coaches votes

 

[Walter H White]

I don't count that one (at least when Nick isn't top 3). Players dont actually vote on games. Most of them don't watch enough games to really know who was the best player of the year. Great accolade as your peers are essentially voting on how good they think you are, but it's not really set up to try to indicate who was the best player that year.

It was the only accurate one.
1. Heeney
2. Cripps
3. Bont

...

Daylight

4. Naicos

 

[Walter H White]

Outside seagulls should be allowed to steal hot chips, but not coaches votes!

 

[sr36]

3 Brownlow votes, 8-9 AFLCA votes (Bevo won’t give Daicos 5, he’ll give it to Libba or Darcy).

I would too:

Probably taking what Nick does for granted too much, and I love the Dogies story, but for me:

3 Darcy
2 Libba
1 Lobb

those 3 were pretty special tonight.