Past Coach NMFC Senior Coach - David Noble has parted ways with NMFC

[gokangas]

That's right. It IS an easy throw-away to say "there's rumours Noble has lost the players" when we're playing terribly.

But the rumour is crap.

Respect your opinion. I am only reporting what I have been told by some connected folk. As I posted earlier I have a strong link to a player and the feedback there was this is crap. But they persist in other areas.

 

[Ashley B]

I heard a while back he can be quite critical of players and harsh possibly like the good old days . Players don’t respond to that it seems in this day and age. Maybe the players don’t like the truth. I also heard he wouldn’t last too long because of this . Just someone’s opinion though. We obviously have a deficit in player age groups ie mid 20s as many posters have noted,which hurts us at the moment but it’s the way we are losing which is not what I like no passion or pressure.

 

[The Lone Latic]

Respect your opinion. I am only reporting what I have been told by some connected folk. As I posted earlier I have a strong link to a player and the feedback there was this is crap. But they persist in other areas.

If you're a player that's guaranteed to start a match because there is no accountability for poor performances, then yeah sure, of course they are going to say that he has thr backing of the players because it means they can continue to serve up unacceptable performances and not face any consequences. One of my biggest issues is the lack of accountability across the board with individuals being made scapegoats (like powell) and so long as you're not the scapegoat it's all gravy baby. Who doesn't want a boss that doesn't hold you accountable when you screw up or don't do your job? Pretty sure if I didn't do that I'd be fired but these players don't have that same fear of being held accountable or responsible for their performances

 

[Sillygit]

Respect your opinion. I am only reporting what I have been told by some connected folk. As I posted earlier I have a strong link to a player and the feedback there was this is crap. But they persist in other areas.

Sorry, you're saying that the player said the rumours are crap or that noble is crap?

 

[The Lone Latic]

I heard a while back he can be quite critical of players and harsh possibly like the good old days . Players don’t respond to that it seems in this day and age. Maybe the players don’t like the truth. I also heard he wouldn’t last too long because of this . Just someone’s opinion though. We obviously have a deficit in player age groups which hurts us at the moment but it’s the way we are losing which is not what I like no passion or pressure.

If this is true, then what a sad bunch or players we have that don't like being told when they aren't performing or face the hard truth they make poor decisions in game (going back several years). That also speaks of weak leadership within the playing group and my thoughts on what a poor captain we have in Ziebell is quite well known here

 

[ferball]

Did having Paul Roos around last year mask a lot of Noble’s deficiencies?

As much as we joke about Roos, the bloke still knew how to coach a playing group.

Now he is out of the picture and the safety blanket is gone, I think we are seeing the real capability or lack of it with Noble.

There might be something to this.

 

[outwecome2play]

The biggest issue that people have with Noble is that he isn't the big name that they wanted appointed. He is at the club to do the very difficult job of rebuilding this team. The list turnover has been enormous. This is the rebuild that people have been calling out for.
We are only a season into the rebuild and people want the coach sacked.
So lets be reactive and put the club back and start again. I prefer to be proactive and keep going down the track we are. We have to accept that the losses will happen. Some of these losses are going to be by large totals.
There is no quick fix here.
A so called supercoach will not come near us until they can see that there is going to be success. Barassi only came to North because of the players that we were going to sign.
I have full confidence that the club is in good hands and success will come our way. Call me delusional but calling for the coach to be sacked is just as delusional.
I am not sure what people want him to say at press conferences. It obvious to everyone of our position so it doesn't matter what he says people will be critical.
I know that people will be critical of me saying that i am a Noble lover but i prefer to see myself as a realist understanding of the situation that we are in.

 

[Ashley B]

I do think if you get the older players off side that does not help the coach ie see Denis when he went to Carlton. Let’s be honest the proper rebuild won’t begin until the older group are gone. Their hearts probably are not in it anymore.

 

[Zondor]

At the start of the year, the perspective within Arden St would have to have been that David Noble would coach out the year no matter what. We all understand the situation with the list, and winning was not our highest priority anyway. David Noble's pass mark for 2022 was so low that it wasn't even worth discussing.

But now, I think we need to reassess the "no matter what part" and start asking the question of what David Noble needs to show to keep his job past the bye week. These are our next seven games that take us to the bye.

• Carlton at Marvel
• Fremantle at Optus
• Port Adelaide at Blundstone
• Melbourne at Marvel
• St Kilda at Marvel
• Gold Coast at TIO
• GWS at Marvel

Going back to David Noble's low pass mark, I think he is safe even if he loses all seven of these games. However, there are obviously different types of defeats. Three more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we've had an equal amount of those defeats in 2022 than David Noble's first two years at Brisbane combined. Five more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we'd have matched the 2013 Demons as far as number of 10 goal losses at the bye week when Mark Neeld was sacked in his second year.

David Noble's job was one of the safest at the start of the year, but we as a side needed to occasionally show some level of football competence. With how ugly the next five weeks could be, I think we need to be prepared for the conversation around David Noble being sacked midseason.

Well we just notched up another 10 goal loss on the back of a 50 point loss from when this was first posted. :stern look

 

[northbergs]

What worries me is that it looks like Roos didn't want a bar of us after spending a year in our environment.

Either he is that smug that he thought "well well well my job is done", which is a real possibility. The other real possibility is he saw what he was working against to change and ran like the wind.

I've heard nothing but praise for him from Melbourne peeps. I know he doesn't have a good rep here and I'm kinda sus on him too, but if he's as good at what he does as Melbourne say and he's getting outta dodge then that's a real worry.

Interesting his son also doesn’t play for the 2s anymore.


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[ferball]

We managed to bring people across into positions that aren't the primary bearer of responsibility for poor football performances.

For example, I'm pretty sure one of those blokes you mentioned literally has football performance as his portfolio (happy to be corrected) yet has barely been mentioned on here.

The coach bears the vast majority of accountability and is usually one of the first to get the arse. That is a very difficult proposition and position to be in if there's rot sitting above you.

Much easier to slide into a toxic org when you're comparatively anonymous in terms of accountability.

Still speculation of course. It's hard not to speculate when you're as bad as we are.

Yes, he's the boss of footy performance and he's been there six months. He's the guy responsible for this going by his job title.

 

[spurs]

Two weeks ago I got hammered for my opinion on this bloke

I said the he looks to have lost the players, and there's a reason for that.

Couldn't understand then why others hadn't seen what was as clear as the nose on my face.

Glad you can see it now, players with half a brain have already worked him out and have lost faith in him. Don't get sucked into the media hype of the players backing him.

It's a long way back from here David...if you can get back.

I said the same thing about Noble. I’d love Clarko but most clubs in the AFL would. I don’t think we have the soft cap for his price tag and his assistant coaches that he’d like to have. He would be my number 1 draft pick.

 

[northbergs]

I heard a while back he can be quite critical of players and harsh possibly like the good old days . Players don’t respond to that it seems in this day and age. Maybe the players don’t like the truth. I also heard he wouldn’t last too long because of this . Just someone’s opinion though. We obviously have a deficit in player age groups ie mid 20s as many posters have noted,which hurts us at the moment but it’s the way we are losing which is not what I like no passion or pressure.

I’d imagine it would be harder to get cut through with that approach when you’ve only played 2 games of senior AFL/VFL football with Fitzroy.


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[ferball]

I doubt that soft cap rules and fair work laws allow for a wholesale slaughter ad a mid-season appointment of a new senior coach might not be possible (who knows?). But the administration have to step in and they have to be decisive - no wait and see, no one last chance, no let's drop 2 or 3 guys to the VFL.... A big change done quickly and with precision. Rip the band-aid off. Pain will be the short and medium term result. Acknowledge this and articulate it - don't pretend that we're on track and if we keep doing what we're doing now things will get better.

That will be the third time we have done it in three seasons.

If we do it we better get someone in who can coach us to a flag cos otherwise we're ****ed.

And because we've already done it twice over two seasons.... is doing it the problem in itself?

Most of our coaching panel have only been here for a short time during covid while everything has been gutted since 2020.

WE do it again and at the end of 2023 are in the same boat. What happens then?

 

[DrZaius]

That's what I want to understand. How did we go from optimism in the 2nd half of last year where we saw the potential in good young players and an attacking game plan through the corridor to the lack of any recognisable structure whatsoever in the space of 1 off season? Like, yes I agree that progress is not linear but it doesn't turn and go backwards at 100 miles an hour. It just doesn't make sense

The signs were there in the 2nd half of last year IMO but people got blinded by our handful of okay performances (which to be fair after our last few years felt like the equivalent of 5+ years of dominance), the main difference was the playing group weren't entirely devoid of all confidence. We haven't gone backwards as far as some think because we didn't actually go forwards as much as some thought.

That win over West Coast was great though, other than them clearly being on the way down now there isn't really much you can say to minimise how gutsy that performance was.

 

[Zondor]

That's right. It IS an easy throw-away to say "there's rumours Noble has lost the players" when we're playing terribly.

But the rumour is crap.

Heath doesn't work at the club anymore Chad so you may want to ask someone a little more closely associated with the NMFC. :stern look

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I said he won’t be here at the end of 2023.

I’d like to revise that and say at the start of 2023.

Dead man walking.

 

[outwecome2play]

I do think if you get the older players off side that does not help the coach ie see Denis when he went to Carlton. Let’s be honest the proper rebuild won’t begin until the older group are gone. Their hearts probably are not in it anymore.

For the rebuild to be successful we need the older players until the younger players are ready to step up.
Our young midfield we benefit from roving from someone like Goldy.

 

[ferball]

I heard a while back he can be quite critical of players and harsh possibly like the good old days . Players don’t respond to that it seems in this day and age. Maybe the players don’t like the truth. I also heard he wouldn’t last too long because of this . Just someone’s opinion though. We obviously have a deficit in player age groups ie mid 20s as many posters have noted,which hurts us at the moment but it’s the way we are losing which is not what I like no passion or pressure.

LOL If this is the case and the rumours of Noble having lost the players are true then **** the players. That is pissweak.

 

[ferball]

For the rebuild to be successful we need the older players until the younger players are ready to step up.
Our young midfield we benefit from roving from someone like Goldy.

They were benefiting more from roving to X a few weeks ago.

 

[Ashley B]

Ok many think he is gone what would he have to achieve to get another year from here on ? Or has the Horse bolted so to speak

 

[Ashley B]

LOL If this is the case and the rumours of Noble having lost the players are true then fu** the players. That is pissweak.

LOL If this is the case and the rumours of Noble having lost the players are true then fu** the players. That is pissweak.

Players get rid of coaches all the time especially if there are disagreements

 

[Shinboner1]

I heard a while back he can be quite critical of players and harsh possibly like the good old days . Players don’t respond to that it seems in this day and age. Maybe the players don’t like the truth. I also heard he wouldn’t last too long because of this . Just someone’s opinion though. We obviously have a deficit in player age groups ie mid 20s as many posters have noted,which hurts us at the moment but it’s the way we are losing which is not what I like no passion or pressure.

might just be our players not liking the fact that they're being called out for a shit performance.
Too used to it being the normal at the club and just accepted. Especially with the older guys..

 

[Ashley B]

This is just a rumour but the way they are playing passion and pressure wise something is amiss. The older players know they are all probably on their last contracts . As Kramer would say up here I am already gone , points to head.

 

[deano28]

I stand by my post a couple of weeks ago . This was brewing last season , they sorted it out with the playing group mid year but here we are again.

Just an fyi , it wasn’t just the players
( young ones ) in particular that were off side there were staff as well .