Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

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Sam Skinner is expected to be fit for this week.

This has been largely ignored because we won. Port Power subbed a slow tall defender out in order to bring on a smaller player who was fresh. That guy then kicks a goal in a close match.

Skinner was not injured.

It's funny because Himmelberg kicked two crucial goals after he went off.
 
Sam Skinner is expected to be fit for this week.

This has been largely ignored because we won. Port Power subbed a slow tall defender out in order to bring on a smaller player who was fresh. That guy then kicks a goal in a close match.

Skinner was not injured.
It hasn’t been an injury sub for ages.
Remember when it first came out, the player subbed needed to miss 12 days.
That didn’t last.
 

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Caro and Sam Manure now have the pitchforks out for Jeff Kennett.

Gotta say I’m pretty annoyed about the reaction to this: Kennett makes a dad joke of no import, to break the ice to a partner of a (well paid) player. You can picture the moment, but awkward, not much to say, makes a dad joke and invites the jokey slap back.

Partner takes offence

So Jeff apologises. He then takes the step of sitting down to hand write a letter of apology, to take the time out of courtesy because they’ve taken offence.

Now they are spitting on that courtesy and gesture. Arseholes

What more could he have done????
 
They are really deluded over there, of the outs Walker=Seedsman=Allir>Dixon>Sloane=Gray=Fantasia>Clurey. I'll say we had more important outs then them. And Dixon was AA in 2020* (worst tall forward to ever make the AA side) and Gray is on his last leg.

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They are really deluded over there, of the outs Walker=Seedsman=Allir>Dixon>Sloane=Gray=Fantasia>Clurey. I'll say we had more important outs then them. And Dixon was AA in 2020* (worst tall forward to ever make the AA side) and Gray is on his last leg.

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Meh, both teams has key outs.

The main story here is that Port have a lack of quality depth.
 
Patience only goes so far, though - I have a pretty limited tolerance for bad service. I don't mean in the sense that I get loud and abusive etc about it, but that I won't necessarily hang around and spend my money on it.

Couple months back my wife and I went for lunch at our local pub. This was a weekday lunchtime, so by no means flat out busy. Ordered a couple of standard pub meals... schnitzel and fish and chips that should take about 10 minutes to come out of the kitchen. After waiting half an hour, we had nothing. One of the staff finally comes out and says sorry there was a breakdown with the printer when sending the order through to the kitchen and it'll be right out. So we're still sitting there waiting. Other people who got there 20 minutes after us have had their meals coming out, despite their orders presumably going through the same printer ours did. After another 15 minutes (so 45 total) we said to hell with it, I went and got a refund and we left without having had our lunch.

Sometimes bad service is just bad service, and COVID, staff shortages etc aren't a valid excuse.
Not sure if you know anyone running a hospitality business right now, but it's very tough going. Really hard to get staff (who don't have covid or are isolating) let alone staff who know what they're doing.

Just keep it in mind.
 

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It's an impossible thing to police. Every player would have a sore something or other that you could build a case to sub them over.

Should just be a free hit for teams to use whenever they want

King and others have come up with what I think is the solution to this

Once one club activates the medical sub in a match, the other club can do it too

Someone gets injured, you’re not just replacing them, you’re replacing a tired player with fresh legs in the last quarter (potentially). If the other team plays by the rules and doesn’t activate, they’re at a huge disadvantage

This idea would put things back on an even keel. I like it.
 
it's essentially the Green Vest again but it's the 23rd player instead of 22nd
It’s seems pretty simple to fix really. Keep the reduced interchange numbers - hell, reduce them even more - and have six on the bench. Even with 2-3 injuries, you’re still running with a few guys off the bench. Bud-a-bing. Bud-a-boom. You’re done. No more manipulation of stupid sub rules.
 
We need to understand 2021 was a lucky year for them.

Of the double up teams they played in 2021 only one made the finals, Western Bulldogs.

Add they won all 4 games by less than 4 points - of those only one team, Western Bulldogs, played finals. All the others - Adelaide, Collingwood and Richmond didn’t.

Sometimes looking at the facts show the true story.
 
King and others have come up with what I think is the solution to this

Once one club activates the medical sub in a match, the other club can do it too

Someone gets injured, you’re not just replacing them, you’re replacing a tired player with fresh legs in the last quarter (potentially). If the other team plays by the rules and doesn’t activate, they’re at a huge disadvantage

This idea would put things back on an even keel. I like it.
It will be used and IMO is being used as a weapon, that is a tactical maneuver by coaches to either win a game or maintain a lead.
 
It’s seems pretty simple to fix really. Keep the reduced interchange numbers - hell, reduce them even more - and have six on the bench. Even with 2-3 injuries, you’re still running with a few guys off the bench. Bud-a-bing. Bud-a-boom. You’re done. No more manipulation of stupid sub rules.
If you really want to stop it being used as a tactical weapon less so, the player being subbed off has to "automatically" miss the following week.
 
They are really deluded over there, of the outs Walker=Seedsman=Allir>Dixon>Sloane=Gray=Fantasia>Clurey. I'll say we had more important outs then them. And Dixon was AA in 2020* (worst tall forward to ever make the AA side) and Gray is on his last leg.

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They missed the most important out

Voss
 
If you really want to stop it being used as a tactical weapon less so, the player being subbed off has to "automatically" miss the following week.

Look, I think that is unfair on the player, to be honest...sometimes people recover quicker than others


How about...



If a subbed out player is picked the week after, the senior coach gets kicked in the balls by a supporter of the team they played against (raffled off at $5 a ticket pre game...no sub, no kick, no play next week, no kick and all money raised goes to charity).

At the end of the day, as you saw the senior coach bent over and vomiting, you'd think "fair enough".
 
We need to understand 2021 was a lucky year for them.

Of the double up teams they played in 2021 only one made the finals, Western Bulldogs.

Add they won all 4 games by less than 4 points - of those only one team, Western Bulldogs, played finals. All the others - Adelaide, Collingwood and Richmond didn’t.

Sometimes looking at the facts show the true story.
2020* was the start of the dream run for Hinkley with fixture and injuries which ended with Dixon and DBJ making the AA team, you can't make this sh*t up. Why do you think Kochie has been spruiking they have the best W-L record since 2020*, what about the W-L record against the top 8 side since 2020*???? You know, the actual team you have to beat in the finals.
 
King and others have come up with what I think is the solution to this

Once one club activates the medical sub in a match, the other club can do it too

Someone gets injured, you’re not just replacing them, you’re replacing a tired player with fresh legs in the last quarter (potentially). If the other team plays by the rules and doesn’t activate, they’re at a huge disadvantage

This idea would put things back on an even keel. I like it.

Yep I've always thought this sounded right too.

Once it's activated the other team gets a free sub activation.

Even if the injury is real, what if it's the teams worst player, having a horrible game, subbed out and fresh legs, it's an advantage.
 
Some of those posts I would believe as copy & pastes from the Crows board in 2018. Enjoy the ride Port - 4 years ahead of ya.
Smells a lot like the end of Pyke who was playing the very underperforming senior players hoping to just sneak into the finals and Hinkley will be leaving the list in as worst state after our major list turnover. He banked on this list winning the premiership like Pyke had and I can't see any good young KPP prospects coming through and the development of Butters, Rozee and Duursma all stalled (particularly Rozee).

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