Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[amazingjoshy]

Bloody hell a read over at the Dees board and it really is starting to sound like our 2006/7 era

Smith getting caught, Goodwin selling guernseys, Oliver bending windscreen wipers...

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Why are footy players so ******* stupid?

Do as many lines as you want after retirement but don't do it when you're not even an established player...

Doing the lines is usually why you're not an established player. And also (amongst the younger cohort) a big reason for persistent soft tissue injuries.

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[Shuestar13]

Bloody hell a read over at the Dees board and it really is starting to sound like our 2006/7 era

Smith getting caught, Goodwin selling guernseys, Oliver bending windscreen wipers...

The coach selling one of his flag winning guernseys is… something

 

[Bender_]

So what's Goodwin's rumoured vice?

 

[kane249]

So what's Goodwin's rumoured vice?

 

[Bender_]

I thought I remembered him having a gambling problem back in his playing days and it was still going.

 

[Truckosaurus]

It can be (and is) two things

 

[Schmedit]

Bartlett tried to get them to pull their shite together and the boys club backed the coach. He's going to come out of this smelling like roses.

 

[Avalor]

Pretty weak response from the vAFL on this latest cocaine use by Smith. He was still allowed to play in the finals/be part of the finals campaign - not pulled out at the last minute like Willie was. And the suspension, does it start now? It will be over before the new season starts. Surely the suspension must apply in season, and he miss a certain number of games. Basically, crickets from vAFL.

 

[Mulldogg]

All these ructions at the Dees would hopefully be causing concern in the Reid camp. Á la Mr Cotchin back in 2007.

 

[Farang83150]

All these ructions at the Dees would hopefully be causing concern in the Reid camp. Á la Mr Cotchin back in 2007.

Yeah, if only someone at nth could afford some gear!!

 

[RookiePick]

Doing the lines is usually why you're not an established player. And also (amongst the younger cohort) a big reason for persistent soft tissue injuries.

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Sounds like our medicos are off the hook. It's simply a massive recreational drug problem at the club and not incompetence in the support department.

Shame about Gibney. I felt like he was smarter than that.

 

[The Passenger]

Reported that Smith is looking at a 3-month ban...

That is just insanely incongruent with what happened with Willie Rioli

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Willie Rioli

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29

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175cm

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78kg

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Fwd

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Last 5

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12.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

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4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

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D

11.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

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3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.6

3star

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[Altum Volantes]

Reported that Smith is looking at a 3-month ban...

That is just insanely incongruent with what happened with Willie Rioli.

Rioli tampered with a sample - twice - on seperate occasions.

Basically means he could have been on anything, they wouldn’t know, he tampered.

He is lucky he got 2 years.

 

[Mr Eagle]

So what's Goodwin's rumoured vice?

Faberge eggs.

 

[Cuzz09]

The way he left the club and backhanded comments after how we supported him shits me to tears.

I can't stand the guy.

Can't remember having felt anger towards an ex Eagle before or after him.

Dick.

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[KERRPOW]

Reported that Smith is looking at a 3-month ban...

That is just insanely incongruent with what happened with Willie Rioli.

Down to 1 month if he does a drugs is bad dont do drugs course.

 

[Coasters7]

Rioli tampered with a sample - twice - on seperate occasions.

Basically means he could have been on anything, they wouldn’t know, he tampered.

He is lucky he got 2 years.

Isn’t this a similar guilt level though? Tested positive on a game day for a banned substance and there’s probably no way you can prove you took it during the week (if that even changes things).

Cocaine is a game day PED so it’s gotta be treated like it’s worst case scenario (the same as Willie albeit under different circumstances). The fact they’ve left it till the end of the season and potentially given him a ban that doesn’t even last the summer is dodgy as f*ck.

 

[The Passenger]

Rioli tampered with a sample - twice - on seperate occasions.

Basically means he could have been on anything, they wouldn’t know, he tampered.

He is lucky he got 2 years.

Must admit I didn't realise he did it a second time.

But as above, if cocaine in-season is considered PED (which is questionable IMO) than how is Smith walking away with a one month ban?

Anyway, Melbourne imploding is a bit of justice. Don't get me wrong, I reckon their fans are alright.

But as a footy club, they put the competition through hell around 2010, got a huge AFL leg up. They deserved far more than one preliminary final worth of heartbreak.

(Very aware we were nearly at their level of shit this year, but far different circumstances).

 

[Truckosaurus]

They changed things after Rioli because the penalty was seen as too severe, so of course Smith may get a lesser sentence.

 

[DanWCE]

Must admit I didn't realise he did it a second time.

But as above, if cocaine in-season is considered PED (which is questionable IMO) than how is Smith walking away with a one month ban?

Anyway, Melbourne imploding is a bit of justice. Don't get me wrong, I reckon their fans are alright.

But as a footy club, they put the competition through hell around 2010, got a huge AFL leg up. They deserved far more than one preliminary final worth of heartbreak.

(Very aware we were nearly at their level of s**t this year, but far different circumstances).

Cocaine is considered PED within a specified window of match day. The ban is two years. It will be up to Smith to prove he was on the toot for recreation and not to improve his performance, whereby the 2 years will be downgraded to 3 months. There's other boxes that can be ticked to reduce it further.

 

[MIKE85]

I applaud anyone who can get on the bag, and then perform in an elite sport a day or two later. Let the boys live. It’s doing them no good, so it’s their own problem if they want to partake. Heaps of disposable income, and can’t really drink during the season, so it’s an easy choice to make really.

 

[Agent93]

It almost happened. We almost had a trade period where GC or GWS didn't trade a former top 10 pick.

 

[Chris_6678]

Willie the idiot would have just copped a strike and no one would have known, but no he tried to fudge the test and deserved what he got in the end.

 

[Keys]

The rules have changed on recreational drugs such that they aren’t treated the same as PEDs which is fine from a WADA standpoint. It actually makes sense tbh

However, the notion that Smith could be caught with cocaine in his system on match day and not miss any games seems quite farcical. It sends a message that contradicts their supposed strong stance on illicit drug use

And allowing players to use the mental health card to temper any penalty is bullshit. Mental health needs to be taken seriously but reducing it to a convenient excuse for drug taking is ridiculous

When we’ve seen what other players have been banned for, it’s incongruous that Smith doesn’t sit out a significant number of games. Somewhere around 6, arguably more

While I’m at it, Melbourne must be getting awfully close to a visit from AFL integrity to have a look at what’s going on at that club. It’s not West Coast noughties levels but clearly there’s issues