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Also Collard didn't know whether the people he was insulting were straight or not.
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I mean that shouldnt matter anyway.
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I’m too old to totally change my view on f*** being offensive or not. It was in widespread use when I was younger. We even had lollies named F*** that you sucked on without a hint of irony
Not saying it was right, it was just how it was
But whilst I personally don’t find it offensive, I’m smart enough to know others do and that it’s just something that shouldn’t be part of my vocabulary
Come up with a better insult
Not saying it was right, it was just how it was
But whilst I personally don’t find it offensive, I’m smart enough to know others do and that it’s just something that shouldn’t be part of my vocabulary
Come up with a better insult
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These discussions are always a good opportunity to make a list of undesirable posters.
To you that’s what it means. that’s a revisionist interpretation. Forever it’s been about orientation. Lesser human explanation you mentioned is modern upper suburb high class take or explanation. The guy on construction site does not sit there and think in manner you explain.
Look, I am not saying people should go around doing it. I don’t do it. But 6 weeks. Come on. I am not saying he should go free.
How "revisionist" do you wanna be? Cause originally it was about a bundle of sticks.
Also its newer meaning has always been used in a derogatory sense. Here's an except from https://www.gofreddie.com/magazine/the-f-slur-where-it-comes-from-how-some-are-reclaiming-it:
"In 1914, an author named Louis E. Jackson published a 102-page book called "A Vocabulary of Criminal Slang, With Some Examples of Common Usages." The book's purpose was to serve as a bit of a dictionary for common words used by less than savoury individuals in American culture.
Under the entry for "Drag," this sentence was included: "All the ******s (sissies) will be dressed in drag at the ball tonight."
The word "******” itself does not have its own entry, but was used in a sample sentence to demonstrate how "drag" is used in everyday culture. This is one of the earliest instances of the word "******” being used in America."
TLDR: Dont call people the f-slur. Its offensive and demeaning to some marginalised groups of people. At one stage in society calling black people "n*****" was perfectly acceptable and used as a descriptor. We dont use that term anymore for similar reasons.
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I sometimes just say it if I whack my finger or a machine at work breaks down.
But not at anyone.
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We aren’t in America. Let’s stick to my point here.
Nowhere did I say that people should do use it. I think 6 weeks for young indigenous kid is too much as it was driven in part about ideology.
Why then 6 weeks is appropriate? How many weeks to you would be too much, or there is no number? If he got 10, would you argue it’s still not enough?
You looking for some friends?
Just talking about the weeks thing - I think we need an established "bringing the game into disrepute" charge for players, and should just bring such cases as this under the umbrella. I dunno how many weeks that should be worth though.
It's quite mind-blowing.
Just don't be a dickhead. It's really not hard.
Well, for most people.
To be fair, I dont think there have been any surprise contributions here. Pretty much every poster that has commented in the past couple of pages has been bang on brand.
My issue is the penalty - not whether it’s ok what he did.
I think it is harsh but if you are still doing it after the past couple of examples you are a slow learner.
The AFL is stamping it out and they will continue to hand out larger penalties until it sinks in.
So players can either park the homophobic stuff or they can **** around and find out.
The AFL have kept increasing the penalty because players don't seem to be learning.
Take into account the last player got 5 weeks for saying it once and showed remorse.
Collard reportedly said it up to 10 times to multiple players and there's been no mention of an apology.
What do you think is a fair penalty?
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The biggest issue at the moment is we're up to our eyeballs in free to play situations and suspensions that make little to no sense when compared to others of the same issue, or even non-related ones.
Harley's tackle - no concussion - 2 weeks.
Cameron's tackle - concussion - 3 weeks
Dangerfields tackle - no concussion - pay rise and top bloke headlines
Clarko - homophobic slurs - suspended sentence and fine
Powell - " - 5 weeks
Collard - " - 6 weeks
Meanwhile striking seems to be a all good.
The AFL is making it all up as they go along and it's confusing us fans. Classic bush league stuff from them as usual.
Harley's tackle - no concussion - 2 weeks.
Cameron's tackle - concussion - 3 weeks
Dangerfields tackle - no concussion - pay rise and top bloke headlines
Clarko - homophobic slurs - suspended sentence and fine
Powell - " - 5 weeks
Collard - " - 6 weeks
Meanwhile striking seems to be a all good.
The AFL is making it all up as they go along and it's confusing us fans. Classic bush league stuff from them as usual.
Not to mention that multiple positive drug tests are 0 weeks.
lol
They’re also invariably the posters that always accuse our indigenous players as being “lazy”. It’s subtle but a very thin veneer to their prejudices.
Read this again and tell me you aren't embarrassed.
I mean, Im embarrassed for you.
AFL: Dont say p**f
AFL Player: I dont have a uni degree so cant grasp this simple instruction.
Who?
A bit of selective quotation. Why don’t you post the whole thing. Then let’s see who is embarrassed
Or swap one indigenous player for another. Eg. Jones can take Ryan’s small forward spot when Ryan plays in midfield.
It doesn't need to be re-posted- it is there for anyone to read (not that it is worth reading).
It is not taken out of context- you meant it exactly as posted. I highlighted it specifically as out of all your musings so far on the subject, this particular line is hilariously stupid.
He doesn't need to know why it is offensive (I'll give him more credit than you and say that he would know if is offensive, which was the whole point of him saying it) but he is a professional AFL player, he would have undergone extensive education on this and been aware that 2 of his colleagues had received a 3 week and 5 week ban for saying this stuff in the past month or two.
Yet here you are, saying that because he isn't an academic it is beyond his comprehension that if he uses this term (and on multiple occasions) that he would be punished?
Embarrassing stuff.
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