Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2022 - Part 2

[Ge3ks]

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Lol, 100+ games and the only way he will be remembered is when his mug shows up in an Andy Brayshaw highlights package.

 

[Square Peg]

No but people often get things wrong, misinterpret what was spoken and so on... Perhaps the incidents did occur in the manner alleged.

All I am saying is to get both sides of the story before rushing to judgement.

If I am trying to be my most charitable, it's quite possible Clarkson is an equal opportunity, non-racially motivated prick that said equally disgusting things to young non-indigenous players too. Obviously to not have any awareness of the power imbalance between an old white head coach and a young black rookie when he said anything of this sort is appalling. But it's true he may just be an abusive bully to all young players regardless of race.

 

[King Huskii]

Except this is not a blow-over news story, it's got far too much weight and gravitas behind it, and the allegations are too shocking. When you consider the people that may never work in the AFL again, this might be the biggest story in the last 30/40 years, possibly as big as the Essendon doping scandal.

It's all over the news and it looks pretty damming.

The AFL can't simply move on without appropriate action taken place.

 

[wild side]

You really think North Melbourne are going to be coachless for 5 years? Come on man.

No Clarko, rudderless!

 

[Van_Dyke]

If I am trying to be my most charitable, it's quite possible Clarkson is an equal opportunity, non-racially motivated prick that said equally disgusting things to young non-indigenous players too. Obviously to not have any awareness of the power imbalance between an old white head coach and a young black rookie when he said anything of this sort is appalling. But it's true he may just be an abusive bully to all young players regardless of race.

yep, quite possible that clarkson and co are equal opportunity sociopaths

 

[yakamoto]

Are we looking at cases of paternalism

 

[DragoDelph]

Are we looking at cases of paternalism

If we are, it's about to become patricide.

Puts the Simpson "private school" comments in a new light you would think.

 

[King Huskii]

If we are, it's about to become patricide.

Puts the Simpson "private school" comments in a new light you would think.

It sure does

 

[Feathercap]

Apologies if shared already but this is the source article and it is absolutely unbelievable. Clarkson and Fagan directly involved and both will go.

Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.

www.google.com

 

[serial_thrilla]

devastating news

I'm more surprised that Witherden survived the first cull.

 

[DragoDelph]

I'm more surprised that Witherden survived the first cull.

Probably seeing if they can suck someone else in to take him.

 

[salim malik]

You would have thought Hawthorn would have got on the blower and given North's the heads up on Clarkson.
Hawthorn didn't move Clarkson on with a year of his contract remaining and paying him a million bucks for nothing.

 

[Grape Bear]

Clarkson will delay start at North.

 

[Ge3ks]

Apologies if shared already but this is the source article and it is absolutely unbelievable. Clarkson and Fagan directly involved and both will go.

Yeah mate. That's the ABC article that everyone woke up to and have been discussing all day.

 

[Van_Dyke]

I'm more surprised that Witherden survived the first cull.

Adam Simpson: Good training, team. Now its time for the easiest part of any coach's job. The cuts. Although I wasn't able to cut everyone I wanted to, I have cut a lot of you. Joyce is cut. Dixon is cut. Rioli, you've said you're leaving. Nelson, I like your hussle. [Nelson smiles] That's why it was so hard to cut you. [Nelson frowns] Congratulations, the rest of you made the team! [random sighs of relief] Except Witherden, you and you.

 

[wild side]

How is paternalism and killing one's father a correlation here?
Jesus!!
It's still to be determined whether these allegations, albeit sourced forensically, can be determined factual?

 

[Feathercap]

Yeah mate. That's the ABC article that everyone woke up to and have been discussing all day.

I had only read summaries / heard it on radio. the actual sources full stories are beyond cooked

 

[s_wd6]

If I am trying to be my most charitable, it's quite possible Clarkson is an equal opportunity, non-racially motivated prick that said equally disgusting things to young non-indigenous players too. Obviously to not have any awareness of the power imbalance between an old white head coach and a young black rookie when he said anything of this sort is appalling. But it's true he may just be an abusive bully to all young players regardless of race.

Even if this had nothing to do with race, pressuring young players to end relationships, cut them off completely from communication with their partners, pressuring them to terminate pregnancies is a sackable offence too.

 

[serial_thrilla]

devastating news

Bastyy right now:

 

[DragoDelph]

How is paternalism and killing one's father a correlation here?
Jesus!!
It's still to be determined whether these allegations, albeit sourced forensically, can be determined factual?

It was a little dark humour, given these guys are looking down the barrel of having their careers killed.

It's been a shit of a day. Even depressing comic week isn't this brutal.

 

[wild side]

It's the melbourne media, even Clarkson made mention of it in his last years at the Hawks.
More people are paid to follow AFL than the Federal Parliament.
Let that sink in!!

 

[Kram]

Like Clarkson would have done it to a white kid that went to a private school.

 

[Joao]

Nelson...

 

[Purpletown]

So both Dixon and Strnadica have been let go now. Vindication that Freo were correct to delist them both first.

I'm going to miss Jackson Nelson, If he was getting a game it was confirmation the Egos were really, really useless.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Clarkson “shocked” and denies any wrongdoing in statement on racism claims

The former Hawthorn coach has released a statement.

www.sen.com.au