Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2022

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I'd have Sydney in group 2, dont think Geelong finish top 4, or, if they do, they'll scrape into 4th.

Melbourne -> daylight - > Sydney/Brisbane
The issue with Geelong is they have an extraordinary home ground advantage - GMHBATQIA+ is such a uniquely narrow ground that opposition teams rarely come to grips with it. This is why they have a 90% winning record at home. Then when they do travel it's usually just up the road to Melbourne, not half way across the country.

This allows them to make finals consistently on the back of that home ground dominance, then they inevitably fold come finals time, much like Brisbane. I think we are becoming a much better travelling side as the young group matures together, but I would not be surprised to see us falter at Geebung. The narrow ground will negate the open side running of our speedy guys, and the corridor is so easy to congest that any inside kicks have to be pin point - something we are still working on.

If we see a good, hard, contested game with our guys still prepared to take it on even if they make mistakes I will be happy win or lose. If we go into our shells a la the Saints game I will be disappointed (but not shattered).
 

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The issue with Geelong is they have an extraordinary home ground advantage - GMHBATQIA+ is such a uniquely narrow ground that opposition teams rarely come to grips with it. This is why they have a 90% winning record at home. Then when they do travel it's usually just up the road to Melbourne, not half way across the country.

This allows them to make finals consistently on the back of that home ground dominance, then they inevitably fold come finals time, much like Brisbane. I think we are becoming a much better travelling side as the young group matures together, but I would not be surprised to see us falter at Geebung. The narrow ground will negate the open side running of our speedy guys, and the corridor is so easy to congest that any inside kicks have to be pin point - something we are still working on.

If we see a good, hard, contested game with our guys still prepared to take it on even if they make mistakes I will be happy win or lose. If we go into our shells a la the Saints game I will be disappointed (but not shattered).
I dont see us winning this weekend but I think Geelong will continue to get shown up when they play away, dropping them out of the 4.

Game is a free-hit for me, short of regressing back to the St Kilda game, I'm not concerned whether we win or lose, like you said, the home ground advantage there is nuts.

Was looking through the fixtures again and I do feel we've copped a pretty rough one. Playing Melbourne twice is pretty much two guaranteed losses and ridiculous that we have to play them twice. Geelong away is close to as hard as Melbourne at home and then we've got double ups against two other top 8 sides this year in Carlton and St Kilda.

The draw will stop us finishing top 4 annoyingly
 
I dont see us winning this weekend but I think Geelong will continue to get shown up when they play away, dropping them out of the 4.

Game is a free-hit for me, short of regressing back to the St Kilda game, I'm not concerned whether we win or lose, like you said, the home ground advantage there is nuts.

Was looking through the fixtures again and I do feel we've copped a pretty rough one. Playing Melbourne twice is pretty much two guaranteed losses and ridiculous that we have to play them twice. Geelong away is close to as hard as Melbourne at home and then we've got double ups against two other top 8 sides this year in Carlton and St Kilda.

The draw will stop us finishing top 4 annoyingly
Top 8 and I'm dancing in my underwear around the loungeroom. It's the little things in life! :laughing:
 
I dont see us winning this weekend but I think Geelong will continue to get shown up when they play away, dropping them out of the 4.

See, I am 50/50 on this. The narrow ground is what puts doubt in my mind. It nullifies our run and spread. If it were a bigger ground that allowed us to run then I reckon we would be able to run the geriatrics off their feet. Not to mention that other than Hawkins and Cameron they don't really have anyone that scares me. If we can get our forward 50 entries right then we should be okay.
 
See, I am 50/50 on this. The narrow ground is what puts doubt in my mind. It nullifies our run and spread. If it were a bigger ground that allowed us to run then I reckon we would be able to run the geriatrics off their feet. Not to mention that other than Hawkins and Cameron they don't really have anyone that scares me. If we can get our forward 50 entries right then we should be okay.
I think we'd have a chance of obliterating them at home, like I said, dont think they are very good and they dont make top 4, but their home ground hurts us A LOT.
 
See, I am 50/50 on this. The narrow ground is what puts doubt in my mind. It nullifies our run and spread. If it were a bigger ground that allowed us to run then I reckon we would be able to run the geriatrics off their feet. Not to mention that other than Hawkins and Cameron they don't really have anyone that scares me. If we can get our forward 50 entries right then we should be okay.

But this is just it. The different dimensions and the two most protected forwards in the game. You can't even blink at them especially Hawkins. All he does is moan when he doesn't get gifted frees.

Danger most likely back.

I do love our defence and the fact we run all day.
 
Using the Squiggle site (which is only good for measuring where you are today, not so great for future predictions), the flag pole height is:

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Melbourne
66.3
2
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Geelong
60.0
3
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St Kilda
57.6
4
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Brisbane Lions
57.3
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Sydney
57.0
6
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Fremantle
56.7
7
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Western Bulldogs
55.5
8
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Carlton
51.7
9
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Collingwood
50.9
10
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Hawthorn
50.7
11
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Port Adelaide
50.5
12
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Gold Coast
50.3
13
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Richmond
49.1
14
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Greater Western Sydney
47.7
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Adelaide
46.9
16
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Essendon
46.3
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North Melbourne
37.0
18
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West Coast
36.3

Which clearly shows we're in group 3 with Brisbane, Sydney, Saints, Dogs.

It's not perfect but it's one way to take the human bias out of this.

Geelong doing better than a lot of you think they are.
 

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I just made it up then. I think Geelong need to buy a ruck and bring in some elite mid talent, including outside run.
Damn, would love Collingwood to lose him. Don't forget we want to go after Geelong's first rounders as well for Meek (if in our interest).
 

I think he just looked around and thought he was the same as everyone else. This passage comes to mind;

'Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.'
James 1:23‭-‬24 NIV

😂
 
I dont see us winning this weekend but I think Geelong will continue to get shown up when they play away, dropping them out of the 4.

Game is a free-hit for me, short of regressing back to the St Kilda game, I'm not concerned whether we win or lose, like you said, the home ground advantage there is nuts.

Was looking through the fixtures again and I do feel we've copped a pretty rough one. Playing Melbourne twice is pretty much two guaranteed losses and ridiculous that we have to play them twice. Geelong away is close to as hard as Melbourne at home and then we've got double ups against two other top 8 sides this year in Carlton and St Kilda.

The draw will stop us finishing top 4 annoyingly

That can work the other way though if we win those games.

Annoying that St kilda loss may be a difference for ladder positions at end of the year if we are in similar positions.

But i suppose the flipside is we lost that game but been a completely different team since with the structures we fixed up.

I think by Round 20 if we keep our trajectory upwards we could beat the Demons in perth. Call me crazy but they could have top 2 locked in by then and start managing some players before the finals. And i would like to think at Home we should be capable of beating anyone when you are a top 8 side.
 
The most annoying thing about the AFL is how the much your fixture dictates where you finish.

Sucks to play Melbourne twice, but knowing we'll get two certain wins VS. West Coast during our premiership window is some comfort.
We do get GWS twice this year as well which is a plus.

I suspect they should be lambs to the slaughter in final round at Canberra won't be in finals contention and Leon will be managed out by then.
 
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