Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2024 Part 2

[serial_thrilla]

Geez Culley certainly hit the wall in the last 12 months.

 

[Superkoops]

Other than a few mature aged (ie around 20-22 yrs old) like Newcombe (was about to turn 20 just after MSD) m, James Peatling (who was 21) and John Noble

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John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

(who was 22), nothing much eventuates from MSD - especially from 18 year olds that missed out on ND.

If you remember North Melbourne selected the next big thing in 2021 MSD Jacob Edwards.

Pickett at Richmond was also a good plug and play option.

I think you look at replacing injured players with plug and play types. A good example of a player we could have added might have been Corey Wagner a few months earlier in the MSD.

Jai Culley hasn’t done much at all really - incl. WAFl.

 

[Paracleet]

I have no doubt he'll be leaving at least $1m on the table to pick us over West Coast if he does. Probably closer to $2m if he chooses to stay in Sydney.

Well at the very least if he does go to WC us staying in the game to the end is going force them to give up probably pick 1 in total value.
They're going to come out of this process with a few very good players but you need a 22. Put aside our super stars look at a selection of our bread and butter -A minus / B graders who are under 24, most are high or highish picks

Clark - equiv pick 20ish - Org pick 14
Johnson - pick 21
Chapman - Pick 14
Sturt - Pick 17
Erasmus - Pick 10
Sharp - Org pick 27
O'Driscoll - Pick 27

Simpson and Davies picks in the 30's

Only Freddy, the two Joshes and Brandon are third rounders or lower.

You don't take bulk picks between 12 and 30 across say a 3 or 4 year period you are relying on luck to fill out your list. (last 5 drafts they have had 5 picks between 12 and 30. Two of them were 29 and 30 and two arguably are already busts: Chesser and Burgiel. UPDATE: Burgiel just got delisted so not arguable.)

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Didn’t Culley have a knee reconstruction?

 

[Cam Payne]

Didn’t Culley have a knee reconstruction?

Yep, did an ACL.

Lucky for him Chicken Treat are hiring.

 

[Dockeroo]

Other than a few mature aged (ie around 20-22 yrs old) like Newcombe (was about to turn 20 just after MSD) m, James Peatling (who was 21) and John Noble (who was 22), nothing much eventuates from MSD - especially from 18 year olds that missed out on ND.

If you remember North Melbourne selected the next big thing in 2021 MSD Jacob Edwards.

Pickett at Richmond was also a good plug and play option.

I think you look at replacing injured players with plug and play types. A good example of a player we could have added might have been Corey Wagner a few months earlier in the MSD.

Jai Culley hasn’t done much at all really - incl. WAFl.

I think there’s been a few actually, Sam Durham is probably one of the best MSD picks. D’ambrosio is another fine selection from there even though Essendon stupidly gave him away. Logan Evans of port is another recent one that I really like the look of so far. Cooper Sharman of the saints.

The likes of Shaun Mannagh could have been recruited mid season too I think in these drafts.

It’s true most don’t make it but there is the odd nugget of gold in there. Probably similar success rate to the end of season rookie draft in most of the recent seasons actually.

 

[sumavich]

It's hit and miss, but there have definitely been some diamonds out of the Mid Season Draft.
The draft is 18, and plenty of kids get better as their body matures

 

[james haish]

Is Culley the guy Fyfe whacked?

 

[james haish]

Travis boak playing on is exactly why Port Adelaide ain't ruthless enough to win a flag.

He may be a legend of that club and a great guy.

But gee he was done 12 months ago.

I imagine they’re rewarding him for sticking by them instead of returning to Victoria mid career. He’s got to be the last of the 2006 draft cohort with Hawkins retiring

 

[Taylor]

Is Culley the guy Fyfe whacked?

Yes.

 

[estibador]

Is Culley the guy Fyfe whacked?

That was the highlight of his career.

 

[pK75]

That was the highlight of his career.

From an eagles point of view, Fyfe missed the bombers game through suspension and we lost and therefore missed the finals, actually surprising they have delisted him after that.

 

[fnerd]

Is Culley the guy Fyfe whacked?

in the last derby he was also the flog ,who after just kicking a goal (obviously rarely happened so he must of been pretty proud of himself)then proceeded to run over and shove serong in the back, who was running back to centre.

Think was the start of the scuffle that lead to Fyfe clocking him.

So Not just a absolute useless footballer but shit bloke to boot

 

[stax on the mull]

Burgiel I think is listed as one of the ingredients in multigrain bread.

 

[Bigger]

You need to soak it for a while before using.

Culley is trash. I need Swd6 to deliver a verdict on his fright wig of a hairdo before he gets consigned to the footy dustbin.

 

[Superkoops]

I think there’s been a few actually, Sam Durham is probably one of the best MSD picks. D’ambrosio is another fine selection from there even though Essendon stupidly gave him away. Logan Evans of port is another recent one that I really like the look of so far. Cooper Sharman of the saints.

The likes of Shaun Mannagh could have been recruited mid season too I think in these drafts.

It’s true most don’t make it but there is the odd nugget of gold in there. Probably similar success rate to the end of season rookie draft in most of the recent seasons actually.

Thanks for highlighting a few others. Sharman was 21 and Durham was 20 so they fit in that ideal age bracket of around 20-24 for mid season draft.

You have pointed out a couple of outliers in D’ambrosio and Evans. Both 18/19 not selected in that proceeding ND. Generally though the next best from the state leagues in the 20-24 bracket tend to be the best state league options.