Non Lions Discussion 2024

[Harris Specter]

Ridiculous from the Eagles. It seems as though they have learnt nothing from the Tim Kelly

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4.9

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19.9

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12.3

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7.6

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3.1

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2.8

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3.8

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trade.
Pick 3 is such a prized asset.

 

[mpal6]

I rate Rioli but not 6 and 23 in a draft where 23 gets you (apparently) like an equivalent mid first rounder type talent in other drafts.

I can’t see why 6 isn’t sufficient. But I suppose suns only care about it points.

Noble should be valued the same as Dev and Sharp. But is apparently being valued closer to Houston. Mad.

Suns could’ve done what Hawks did, find the highest bidder and palm off pick 6 for a late teens pick and future picks.
Would've helped them reload next year as well rather than haggling with Richmond about pick 6+ for Rioli.

 

[mpal6]

Sounds like a poor trade for the Eagles - pick 3 for Baker & pick 12?

& Owies possibly

 

[Sproj]

Get excited guys, it’s another day for something to almost happen but not.

 

[Nunez]

Sounds like a poor trade for the Eagles - pick 3 for Baker & pick 12?

Horrific trade.

 

[captainrich]

I don't know what's happened somehow Richmond has become this powerful club everyone is looking to appease.

 

[mpal6]

I kinda feel bad for the Port fans but a lot of them are adamant that their F1 is not included in the deal. Some realise it is but it will be.

Yeah - if you include F1, that's a terrible trade for Port.

 

[mpal6]

Knowing Lombard is a likely top 10 pick and they're sitting in a dicey pick 6, 13 position - GC should've been proactive and traded both off for something like North Melbourne pick 2 and a F2. It would've sent a message to Richmond that Rioli trade if it goes ahead will be a F1 + 23 or 2 F1s, something like that.

Instead they are caught in this Houston trade kumbaya as well as trying to offload Lukosius on the side. Terrible.

I believe we did a good job back when Dunkley trade happened - we promptly downgraded our first rounder with GWS to generate points so there is no haggling over a pick which we didn't have anymore.

 

[briztoon]

Knowing Lombard is a likely top 10 pick and they're sitting in a dicey pick 6, 13 position - GC should've been proactive and traded both off for something like North Melbourne pick 2 and a F2. It would've sent a message to Richmond that Rioli trade if it goes ahead will be a F1 + 23 or 2 F1s, something like that.

Instead they are caught in this Houston trade kumbaya as well as trying to offload Lukosius on the side. Terrible.

I believe we did a good job back when Dunkley trade happened - we promptly downgraded our first rounder with GWS to generate points so there is no haggling over a pick which we didn't have anymore.

Suns want those F1’s for their academy kids next year.

 

[mpal6]

Suns want those F1’s for their academy kids next year.

True but if we have 2 years of future picks open for trade, they can get those points in other ways too. I believe Suns are also going to hit a threshold where they can't keep collecting every academy first rounder coming through and have to pick one and let the rest go.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Yeah - if you include F1, that's a terrible trade for Port.

Is it?

Houston for pick 13 is fine
Future first for Lukosius and some handy pick upgrades looks OK

Atkins the only issue

 

[MSB ROYS]

Ridiculous from the Eagles. It seems as though they have learnt nothing from the Tim Kelly trade.
Pick 3 is such a prized asset.

Agree, McCluggage type team changer!

 

[dlanod]

Houston for pick 13 is fine

Externally yes, but Port were pushing for multiple first round picks. Getting just one in the deal with minor steak knives looks like it was too much for them to swallow.

 

[dlanod]

“I am hearing it was the board as much as anything at Port Adelaide,” Edmund told AFL Trade Radio.

“This had gone to board level, and the board might have said ‘no, this can’t be happening’.

“So, from a Port Adelaide perspective, (Jack) Lukosius in for a future first, (Joe) Richards in for 39, (Rory) Atkins for 58, and that meant that Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

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27

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18.2

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4.9

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3.0

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289.2

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17.6

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11.6

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6.0

3star

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3.3

3star

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3.4

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319.9

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16.6

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12.4

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4.2

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7.0

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2.6

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279.8

5star

was being traded for 13, 29 and 36 — and the Power weren’t happy with that.”

AFL trades LIVE: Two big deals all but confirmed as backflip leaves three-club trade in tatters

AFL trades LIVE: Two big deals all but confirmed as backflip leaves three-club trade in tatters

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Bucking Beads]

Are West Coast serious?? They can't be.

 

[lionshine]

If I’m reading this right, had the Eagles just accepted pick 14 for Barrass they could have passed that on for Baker and kept pick 3? Instead they need to downgrade pick 3 to 12 for the same result? That is absolutely diabolical

 

[Dom PC]

Geez I'd be so flat as a WCE fan if this pick 3 trade goes through. It is bizarre, in what world is Baker worth diluting pick 3 in the national draft...

You'd think there is a 3 way trade between Gold Coast, Richmond and WCE where it's a bit fairer for WCE. They've clearly got tunnel vision for Baker but.

 

[irel]

Can we get in on the West Coast give away strategy? Pick 12 for Robbo sound good to me.

 

[Perrip]

Giving away early draft picks who form the core of a next premiership tilt for a rebuilding club, seems very weird.

Imagine if we gave away Pick 3 and didn't have Clug in the team

 

[Hollow Knight]

Why are so many clubs losing their minds and throwing away obscene amounts of valuable trade currency for Richmond players who are handy but not transformative? It's like some collective mania has set in.

 

[irel]

Carlton to get pick 3 it has cost them: Future first, future second, current first round (pick 12) and Owes.

That is a massive gamble. May work, but if they phoock-up pick three its purgatory for many years, considering Tassie is coming.

 

[mpal6]

Is it?

Houston for pick 13 is fine
Future first for Lukosius and some handy pick upgrades looks OK

Atkins the only issue

Dual AA Houston for 13 is not fine though if Rioli is going for 6 + 23.

Lukosius for future first is the only part that seems to be fair when done in isolation.

 

[Elixuh]

Wow West Coast what're you doing. Owies is worth nothing. Baker is worth next to nothing. And they gave up pick 3 with 12 coming back. My god.

 

[McIvor]

As everyone has said, West Coast are absolute idiots if they proceed with this:



Carlton fans are insufferable enough, so please West Coast do a Port and back out

 

[McIvor]

Carlton to get pick 3 it has cost them: Future first, future second, current first round (pick 12) and Owes.

That is a massive gamble. May work, but if they phoock-up pick three its purgatory for many years, considering Tassie is coming.

You make a good point, so this rhetoric is pretty much spin, because it also ignores your point that Carlton gave up F1 and F2 for that pick 14.