North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

[Brian McGee]

I think the point being made here is that despite all this crap about the integrity of the draft, when we've been at the bottom of the ladder we're the ones who have suffered from the failure of the integrity of the draft. For example... 2020 JUH and Campbell, Darcy and Daicos, 2022 Ashcroft and 2023 Waller. Five gun players unavailable to the worst sides in the comp over the last four years but helping us will * the draft for the other clubs.

Its a stupid argument made by cretins.

AFAIC you can take your charity and jam it btw. I'm just pointing out the whinging hypocrisy of people complaining about PPs as if the draft actually has any integrity.

The bloke who gave away that pick for Polec decided our PP allocation last year after he accepted the job to coach another club. LOL. Integrity right.

When port were at their worst, we had people were calling for us to fold etc. The highest pick we got in the draft in those years was 6. We picked Chad wingard with that pick despite finishing second to bottom only to Gold Coast. We got pick 7 the next year and picked Ollie wines despite only winning 5 games. I realise that north is worse than those years currently but you have also had multiple picks higher than those in the last 4 years. Your youth will develop into a good team. It just takes time.

 

[Cadillac]

I think the point being made here is that despite all this crap about the integrity of the draft, when we've been at the bottom of the ladder we're the ones who have suffered from the failure of the integrity of the draft. For example... 2020 JUH and Campbell, Darcy and Daicos, 2022 Ashcroft and 2023 Waller. Five gun players unavailable to the worst sides in the comp over the last four years but helping us will * the draft for the other clubs.

Its a stupid argument made by cretins.

AFAIC you can take your charity and jam it btw. I'm just pointing out the whinging hypocrisy of people complaining about PPs as if the draft actually has any integrity.

The bloke who gave away that pick for Polec decided our PP allocation last year after he accepted the job to coach another club. LOL. Integrity right.

Go revisit the drafts from 2011-13 and see where the Bulldogs were situated in those drafts compared to our ladder position due to the expansion clubs in GC and GWS entering the league and then get back to me.
That’s a terrible excuse as a reason for deserving a priority pick.

 

[Brian McGee]

Go revisit the drafts from 2011-13 and see where the Bulldogs were situated in those drafts compared to our ladder position due to the expansion clubs in GC and GWS entering the league and then get back to me.
That’s a terrible excuse as a reason for deserving a priority pick.

Why did you get pick 5 and 6 in 2012? Was it a free agent leaving?

 

[The acurate one]

I think in about 2003 North finished 4th last and the three teams below us all has two picks before we got one. Not sure that’s any less relevant that some of the reasons why North shouldn’t get one this season

I do agree some people carry on about us getting one, like it’s well played, when the reality is we should be embarrassed by the state of our list.

We have minus some veterans around 19 good or developing players. The rest are for the tip.

If the answer isn’t a pp straight after our first, what is it ?

We don’t have a good NGA area and don’t have an academy. So as Ferbs stated, we are down the bottom and cannot access the best talent. I was all for us bottoming out, we needed it. I though didn’t factor in our picks would be pushed back due unavailable players .

It’s an issue

 

[Crow till I die]

I think in about 2003 North finished 4th last and the three teams below us all has two picks before we got one. Not sure that’s any less relevant that some of the reasons why North shouldn’t get one this season

I do agree some people carry on about us getting one, like it’s well played, when the reality is we should be embarrassed by the state of our list.

We have minus some veterans around 19 good or developing players. The rest are for the tip.

If the answer isn’t a pp straight after our first, what is it ?

We don’t have a good NGA area and don’t have an academy. So as Ferbs stated, we are down the bottom and cannot access the best talent. I was all for us bottoming out, we needed it. I though didn’t factor in our picks would be pushed back due unavailable players .

It’s an issue

People on your board were directly saying swap x y and z experienced players in your team for tex, sloane, smith and you would be a much better side.

You HAVE excellent youth already but it seems not the (or enough of the) quality senior heads to guide them on field. I would also add that during Adelaide's recent rebuild, we put a huge focus on getting back of house right. From burgess for fitness to good line coaches etc.

North have clarkson who has had a torrid time of recent but is coming back and needs time to put his stamp on things. I suggest north really look at back of house and really try and target some senior heads that will value add this off season to help the wardlaw's, sheezel's, larkey's, etc. THAT is where your club is lacking and you get that right and you could seen in 12 months a rapid improvement in fortunes

 

[Brian McGee]

I think in about 2003 North finished 4th last and the three teams below us all has two picks before we got one. Not sure that’s any less relevant that some of the reasons why North shouldn’t get one this season

I do agree some people carry on about us getting one, like it’s well played, when the reality is we should be embarrassed by the state of our list.

We have minus some veterans around 19 good or developing players. The rest are for the tip.

If the answer isn’t a pp straight after our first, what is it ?

We don’t have a good NGA area and don’t have an academy. So as Ferbs stated, we are down the bottom and cannot access the best talent. I was all for us bottoming out, we needed it. I though didn’t factor in our picks would be pushed back due unavailable players .

It’s an issue

The answer is time.

 

[ferball]

The answer is time.

Tom Waits likes this.

 

[Brian McGee]

Tom Waits likes this.

Time time time

 

[Cadillac]

Why did you get pick 5 and 6 in 2012? Was it a free agent leaving?

Callan Ward demanded a trade to GWS on a monster offer

 

[bh90210fan]

I think in about 2003 North finished 4th last and the three teams below us all has two picks before we got one. Not sure that’s any less relevant that some of the reasons why North shouldn’t get one this season

I do agree some people carry on about us getting one, like it’s well played, when the reality is we should be embarrassed by the state of our list.

We have minus some veterans around 19 good or developing players. The rest are for the tip.

If the answer isn’t a pp straight after our first, what is it ?

We don’t have a good NGA area and don’t have an academy. So as Ferbs stated, we are down the bottom and cannot access the best talent. I was all for us bottoming out, we needed it. I though didn’t factor in our picks would be pushed back due unavailable players .

It’s an issue

Go hard at Mitch McGovern, that’s your answer.

 

[nut]

I think the point being made here is that despite all this crap about the integrity of the draft, when we've been at the bottom of the ladder we're the ones who have suffered from the failure of the integrity of the draft. For example... 2020 JUH and Campbell, Darcy and Daicos, 2022 Ashcroft and 2023 Waller. Five gun players unavailable to the worst sides in the comp over the last four years but helping us will * the draft for the other clubs.

Its a stupid argument made by cretins.

AFAIC you can take your charity and jam it btw. I'm just pointing out the whinging hypocrisy of people complaining about PPs as if the draft actually has any integrity.

The bloke who gave away that pick for Polec decided our PP allocation last year after he accepted the job to coach another club. LOL. Integrity right.

You didnt even bid on Daicos!!

 

[r_boy]

TT the bloke you were able to get at 8 despite having no pick till the 40s. You had given away your first round pick for Polec.



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You said it yourself

 

[Outtatym]

You didnt even bid on Daicos!!

Why would they? JHF wanted #1. Why not help out your potential next superstar with an extra 10k instead of bidding on a kid you won't get anyway and piss off a potential trading partner down the track?

 

[nut]

Why would they? JHF wanted #1. Why not help out your potential next superstar with an extra 10k instead of bidding on a kid you won't get anyway and piss off a potential trading partner down the track?

Why give collingwood a leg up? And push you second third picks etc.. further down the pecking order? I’m sure JHF enjoyed his 10k…

Why would you want to trade with collingwood?

 

[Outtatym]

Why give collingwood a leg up? And push you second third picks etc.. further down the pecking order? I’m sure JHF enjoyed his 10k…

Why would you want to trade with collingwood?

No one knows what's down the road. What if for example Jamie Elliot wants out and picks North (god knows why)- do you think they are going to be easy trading partners if they have been burnt already? Its not a video game

 

[nut]

No one knows what's down the road. What if for example Jamie Elliot wants out and picks North (god knows why)- do you think they are going to be easy trading partners if they have been burnt already? Its not a video game

You sit 17th… it’s time to stop being nice. Do you think collingwood is going to hold your Willy when you are having a wee wee with a smoke in one havd and a beer in the other?

 

[Outtatym]

You sit 17th… it’s time to stop being nice. Do you think collingwood is going to hold your Willy when you are having a wee wee with a smoke in one havd and a beer in the other?

Ok so in your example besides Collingwood having to use more points - how does it help North? It doesn't.

 

[nut]

Ok so in your example besides Collingwood having to use more points - how does it help North? It doesn't.

It forces Collingwood to come up with more points and thus picks … thus giving you early later picks …

 

[Outtatym]

It forces Collingwood to come up with more points and thus picks … thus giving you early later picks …

They used 'pick 4', 45, 49 + 52. You are right, we would be playing finals by now if we bid on him...

 

[nut]

They used 'pick 4', 45, 49 + 52. You are right, we would be playing finals by now if we bid on him...

Yep.. Which means you could have got Callum Jones for free

 

[Frank Grimes]

I'm of the opinion they have been bad long enough for a priority pick. Ideally pick 11 (between the teams who make the finals and those who don't). Though won't be too fussed with a before the first round either.

 

[rye]

pretty interesting reading between this thread and the 'who has the best youth....' thread(s)

from what i can ascertain from north supporters, they have a group of future superstars on the brink of charging up the ladder, but also need a leg up from the afl once again due to how pus the list is

quite an interesting group of footballers they must have at arden street

 

[TheUnicorn]

 

[SSSSSS]

Can't believe the sooking about NGAs.

Not many clubs have been blessed with a rolled gold talent like Thomas (at least in his junior year) for free. That's miles better than 90% of sides. I'd say only Collingwood and the Bulldogs have had more luck from NGA than North as far as Vic clubs are concerned. I'd argue that those same sides are probably the only two who have had a better luck from F/S than North as well in recent years (in terms of VIC clubs).

North just suck at developing and their talent identification programs is probably the worst in the league. To have had almost zero impact from the MSD with some of the best picks available is damning. The Newcombe's of the world are rare but there are best 22 players that are out there playing for much better clubs that just have slipped through the net.

An extra young kid isn't going to help. They've already received their PP and are on the up.

 

[Feraligatr]

What's the point of a PP if you can't develop them right.

North's problem isn't talent. It's development of said talent and then retention.
Priority picks aren't going to fix a poor footy department.