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My own opinion is that I would be surprised if we were in favour of reducing the salary cap. No inside information on this at all, so please don’t quote as club policy.

I don’t think Corona is hurting our major sponsors & a reduction of salary cap would suit the existing back to back premiers more than anyone.

Equalisation? That would be 5 in a row by the end of 2022.......
 
MCG of the EFL said:
From what I hear about Vermont currently no and struggle to understand why any club would be against lowering the salary cap.What about Doncaster Bob or I suppose their issue is more the points at times.
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I don't want to know what Bob thinks . I want your opinion.
Although you do seem to think Balwyn is correct.
Vermont should have plenty in the bank.
 
CliffMcTainshaw said:
I don't want to know what Bob thinks . I want your opinion.
Although you do seem to think Balwyn is correct.
Vermont should have plenty in the bank.
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Not sure any football clubs have much money in the bank,perhaps some juniors do.Not sure a salary cap reduction for the next 3 years will help Vermont as much as Bob thinks.My thoughts still are scrap the season senior wise play the juniors July/Aug and Sept if at all possible.BUT 50%of junior clubs have voted to scrap their season at the moment I see and play lightning premierships or a few matches amongst them selves. BUT I presume another vote by clubs on May 11.
 

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CliffMcTainshaw said:
Balwyn and Vermont. Are my two. Who do you have as the other 3?
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"Do not want the salary cap reduced",my 5 and difficult question. Balwyn,Doncaster and Doncaster East. Another 2 gawd,Blackburn perhaps,5th one no idea.Personally think that vote should be done yearly for the next 3 years as a lot can change in that period.
 
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CliffMcTainshaw said:
You don't think Vermont is one?
Croydon?
After you not wanting the salary cap reduced then maybe Mitcham?
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If a club was operating based on actual known income coming in & had already received it why would they want a reduced salary cap for his season? They would have their ducks in a row & would want to proceed as expect? And why do they have to be the top division sides to do this?


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Blue Tongue said:
If a club was operating based on actual known income coming in & had already received it why would they want a reduced salary cap for his season? They would have their ducks in a row & would want to proceed as expect? And why do they have to be the top division sides to do this?


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What makes you think they have all ready received it and not sure you can expect sponsors to pay the same amount next year with what some of them are going through at the moment.Plus a big chance of no footy this year or just a half season at the best.
 
Blue Tongue said:
If a club was operating based on actual known income coming in & had already received it why would they want a reduced salary cap for his season? They would have their ducks in a row & would want to proceed as expect? And why do they have to be the top division sides to do this?


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From EFNL website.
Senior Clubs
  • 44% of Clubs answered YES to cancelling the season
  • 44% of clubs do not believe they will be financially capable of paying a tiered salary cap starting with a $50,000 being the maximum given the impact of COVID 19.
  • 84% of clubs are supportive of lower player payment caps for season 2020, 2021 and 2022
 
MCG of the EFL said:
Good to see the Local Footy show back on.Good story about East Burwood legend Curly Tainton Cliff.
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No, I didn't see it. I would have liked to!
Was great in any competition he played in. Could have played VFL, he had plenty of clubs after him.
Tough as old boots with every skill imaginable and could down a beer in the blink of an eye.
 

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Thanks Mort.
The ground they were questioning was Mitcham. Finals were played there in those days and it was 1968.
The thing I remember about that game was the head clash between Bob Shaw (EB) and Bob Cullen (BlkBn). Both were going head down for the ball in the middle of the ground and hit head on and then both collapsed to the ground. Bob Shaw eventually got up and played out the game but still doesn't remember anything about the game. Bob Cullen ended up in hospital with a fractured skull. The sound was like someone hitting a big plank of wood really hard with a big hammer. Bobby Cullen's little sister told me many years later she thought he might have been killed. Worst collision I ever saw in a game.
Blackburn were a good team back then with Phil and Sted Hay playing for them. Both played for Hawthorn in their 1961 Premiership. Blackburn won the following year.
We won both the 1's and 2's that day.
 
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Think I spotted a youthful GMac in the stand in that footage, ranting to the guy next to him how great the stand is & that the condition of the ground was outstanding. The guy looks a little disinterested & appears to just want to watch the GF. :p

Great footage, let's hope its never lost.
 
Bobby Beecroft said:
Think I spotted a youthful GMac in the stand in that footage, ranting to the guy next to him how great the stand is & that the condition of the ground was outstanding. The guy looks a little disinterested & appears to just want to watch the GF. :p

Great footage, let's hope its never lost.
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Bob the youthful GMac you are talking about was with Lilydale then.The change rooms were ordinary in the late 90.s at Mitcham before being renovated then but I suppose all clubs were the same.At Lilydale the current social room was not there and home and away rooms,social rooms were under the current grand stand and now the visitor's rooms.Every one including me complain about the visitor's rooms at Lilydale now,well lucky you were not around in the 60;s but we survived.
 
MCG of the EFL said:
Bob the youthful GMac you are talking about was with Lilydale then.The change rooms were ordinary in the late 90.s at Mitcham before being renovated then but I suppose all clubs were the same.At Lilydale the current social room was not there and home and away rooms,social rooms were under the current grand stand and now the visitor's rooms.Every one including me complain about the visitor's rooms at Lilydale now,well lucky you were not around in the 60;s but we survived.
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Just down for the day then were you GMac?
Liked it so much you moved down first chance you got.
 
MCG of the EFL said:
Not sure any football clubs have much money in the bank,perhaps some juniors do.Not sure a salary cap reduction for the next 3 years will help Vermont as much as Bob thinks.My thoughts still are scrap the season senior wise play the juniors July/Aug and Sept if at all possible.BUT 50%of junior clubs have voted to scrap their season at the moment I see and play lightning premierships or a few matches amongst them selves. BUT I presume another vote by clubs on May 11.
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I think a club like Vermont would be okay with a lower cap, the clubs it’d hurt the most would be those without juniors are they generally have to pay more to recruit.

Of course Vermont pay a lot but I don’t think a reduced cap would hurt them in the same way it would Balwyn for

The fact that there is a cap means everybody is on the same level so if you’re a higher paying club you’re not automatically going to be at a disadvantage - everybody is in the same boat.

Besides if Vermont are predominantly funded by pubs then they’re hardly going to be as flush with cash as usual.

More generally I’d be interested to hear if anybody has much of an idea around the timeframes required for turf wicket preparation. In many discussions I’ve seen this seems to be the unknown about how it could all work given so many grounds have turf wickets. Think we’re looking at

- Football pre season (4 weeks?)
- 9 games plus finals (12 weeks)
- wicket preparation (No idea?)
- a one-day match cricket season (how many weeks)?

To have this all completed by say April 2021, what sort of start date to we need?

Unfortunately, the more I think about it the more I see the season being wiped. Hopefully I’m wrong.
 
Bobby Beecroft said:
So perhaps a reduced salary cap will assist Vermont as much as I stated last week on 2nd thoughts?
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Yes makes sense,good junior program over a long period of time and their new recruits mostly are within their ranks.No need to make big offers to outsiders and these juniors would be mostly 1 point players.Makes it harder for the Balwyn's or clubs that are struggling with junior numbers because of a lower cap but just shows our juniors are the most important part of a successful EDFNL senior club these days.Cliff that means I remove Blackburn from my list of the clubs that voted to leave cap as is.
 
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Bunk Moreland said:
I think a club like Vermont would be okay with a lower cap, the clubs it’d hurt the most would be those without juniors are they generally have to pay more to recruit.

Of course Vermont pay a lot but I don’t think a reduced cap would hurt them in the same way it would Balwyn for

The fact that there is a cap means everybody is on the same level so if you’re a higher paying club you’re not automatically going to be at a disadvantage - everybody is in the same boat.

Besides if Vermont are predominantly funded by pubs then they’re hardly going to be as flush with cash as usual.

More generally I’d be interested to hear if anybody has much of an idea around the timeframes required for turf wicket preparation. In many discussions I’ve seen this seems to be the unknown about how it could all work given so many grounds have turf wickets. Think we’re looking at

- Football pre season (4 weeks?)
- 9 games plus finals (12 weeks)
- wicket preparation (No idea?)
- a one-day match cricket season (how many weeks)?

To have this all completed by say April 2021, what sort of start date to we need?

Unfortunately, the more I think about it the more I see the season being wiped. Hopefully I’m wrong.
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It seems the thinking in the Outer East Competition by the clubs is a little different to the EDNFL.75% of clubs want to start the season ASAP and the Outer East are looking at starting late June early July if they receive the OK from the VIP people in government.Personally have reservations about that one but perhaps a glimmer of hope we will see some local footy this season.
 
CliffMcTainshaw said:
Or it might be that the clubs with money want to press home the advantage over clubs who are finding it hard financially at the moment.
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Or perhaps equalisation only suits 'certain' clubs that have had it good for many years, when perhaps they might be slightly vulnerable (although highly likely they really have nothing to worry about). All guess work though really.

If no games are played in 2020, do all players registered to clubs drop a point for 2021?
 

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