Official Cameron White Thread

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

Wasn't rubbish when he had Flintoff plumb LBW but wasn't given

It was too high! The blowl bowls leg-spin and to this day I am yet to see him spin the ball!

 

[Stafford678]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

yeah for ******** sake its a team game not a craig white show, he bowls pies , symonds will allways be on before him, maybe give him a free ride vs the deshi's or zimbos but it was the world friggen XI and our quick bowlers where bowling well, hes got no reason to be filthy about not getten a bowl cuz he shouldnt be in the team in the first place

 

[dan warna]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

concur craig white is rubbish, suprised he got a few games for Victoria...although he was one of hte only decent players to turn up for the Pommes in the past 2 decades before the last ashes loss to the brits.

 

[Blues_Man]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

those Victorians wanting white to bowl ...did you want to see a close finish ?
be nice if white learned to actually turn a ball

 

[pete_hawker]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

It was too high! The blowl bowls leg-spin and to this day I am yet to see him spin the ball!

bull********, they showed hawkigh, it was plumb, hitting middle 3/4 of the way up. wat do u expect from the kid anyway, 5 wickets on debut??? common.... but he deserved his place, and ********ing long way ahead of hopes, clark, and bracken anyway.

 

[Bombers_Forever]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

White needs to be from NSW.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

Everyone here justifies his inclusion as "A batsman who can bowl a bit" and then you're suprised he isn't given a lot of overs? When he stops bowling rubbish I'm sure he'll get more of a go.

 

[mrcracker]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

Ponting was making some type of statement, don't know which one is right.
1) Bowl your best five bowlers. He rates Symonds ODI spin ahead of White.
2) Beat the World XII with an Australian XI. Ha ha, we played one less player and still beat you.
3) Don't like the super sub concept at all, will do a sub but wont use him.
4) Does not think White is good enough to bowl at this level.

 

[- PC -]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

also played in Victoria..... very, very dodgy.

Also Darren Lehmanns brother in law.

Dodgy brothers

 

[- PC -]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

be nice if white learned to actually turn a ball

I saw the pitch on tv... no way any loose rocks were on that

 

[pav_is_god]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

I'm sure White is disappointed that he didn't get more of a chance, but FFS get off Ponting's back he just crushed the World XI 3-0.

 

[Tazza_20]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

isnt it cameron white?

 

[Bombers_Forever]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

I'm sure White is disappointed that he didn't get more of a chance, but FFS get off Ponting's back he just crushed the World XI 3-0.

That is the point- they were crusing in every game, whiy not bring him on for 5-6 overs at least when they can't lose the game. It would be better to give him that exposure to International level when there is no pressure rather than a stage where we are struggling.

 

[Cooldude]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

Craig White was a pie chucker

Cameron White, unless he improves dramatically, is also pretty close to being one

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

That is the point- they were crusing in every game, whiy not bring him on for 5-6 overs at least when they can't lose the game. It would be better to give him that exposure to International level when there is no pressure rather than a stage where we are struggling.

With White bowling nothing is "un losable". That bloke is a pie chucker!

 

[pav_is_god]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

That is the point- they were crusing in every game, whiy not bring him on for 5-6 overs at least when they can't lose the game. It would be better to give him that exposure to International level when there is no pressure rather than a stage where we are struggling.

I see no point in taking the foot off the throat of the World XI. Besides, I'm sure White will get his go eventually.

 

[Jumpin' Jimmy]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

Does anyone else have a slight suspicion this World mob are dogging it so as to get inflated odds for the real cricket game coming up?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re: Ponting & Craig White

I would have liked to have seen more of White, particularly given he could have bowled when the games were virtually won. Still a good experience for him though - don't expect him to be so nervous with his 1st ball next time!

 

[just maybe]

If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

So he played the World XI ODIs and is in the Chappell-Hadlee squad.

There have been squawkers on here for months abusing Shane Watson and how his first-class credentials apparently aren't good enough to justify a spot in either Tests or ODIs.

Yet then we have Cam White, and no one raises a whisper. Quite simply, his limited overs stats are pathetic.

43 matches for 656 runs at a miserable average of 25.23 with only 1 hundred and 4 fifties - pretty rubbish for a 'frontline batsman'.

32 wickets (0.74 wickets per game) at a miserable average of 38.56, a poor economy rate of 5.22 and a crap strike rate of 44.28.

By the crap Watson has received, there should be absolute furore that this guy is anywhere near a national side. FFS, Mark Cleary probably has better stats.

What gives? You either pick on potential or you don't. If you can't pick Watson because of his potential, then White certainly doesn't deserve even the slightest consideration.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

My problem with Watson is not his first-class record, but his performances when playing for Australia.

He hasn't shown much and I don't understand why he keeps getting opportunities. His batting in the ODI side isn't good enough. He can't bat at #7 and is a fair way behind other guys for a spot higher up. He's contributed even less in the Test side.

It's only at this point that his first-class record becomes an issue, because people like you point to it in his defence and say that he's quality, he's just needs more chances.

My response to that is that his first-class record is nothing special.

So don't distort the argument. No-one is critisicisng Watson because of his first-class record. They're just prepared to point out it's nothing special when you present it as a reason for his continued selection.

Criticism of his first-class record is not my main argument. It's a response to your attempts to prove that he's the next big thing by citing those numbers.

 

[spookism]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

I don't know what they see in White - I think they are just trying really hard to get a permanent all-rounder in the side....


However, he just isn't good enough and Cullen, Casson, Baily will quickly overtake him as a preferred backup spinner

 

[just maybe]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

My problem with Watson is not his first-class record, but his performances when playing for Australia.

He hasn't shown much and I don't understand why he keeps getting opportunities. His batting in the ODI side isn't good enough. He can't bat at #7 and is a fair way behind other guys for a spot higher up. He's contributed even less in the Test side.

It's only at this point that his first-class record becomes an issue, because people like you point to it in his defence and say that he's quality, he's just needs more chances.

My response to that is that his first-class record is nothing special.

So don't distort the argument. No-one is critisicisng Watson because of his first-class record. They're just prepared to point out it's nothing special when you present it as a reason for his continued selection.

Criticism of his first-class record is not my main argument. It's a response to your attempts to prove that he's the next big thing by citing those numbers.

Watson has played 2.5 Tests. Your argument is bunk on his Test performances.

You have failed to comment on Cam White. Answer the thread.

 

[linger_isgod]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

Judging by Ponting's use of him in the Super Series, I think he might think the same too.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

I don't know what they see in White - I think they are just trying really hard to get a permanent all-rounder in the side....


However, he just isn't good enough and Cullen, Casson, Baily will quickly overtake him as a preferred backup spinner

White is in the side because he can come in at #7 or #8 and hit from the word 'go'. Watson has not shown an ability to do that, and Symonds now commands a spot higher up the order.

In other words, White is a big-hitting all-rounder who can accelerate late in the innings. His bowling is not world-class, but he and Symonds can be relied upon for at least 10 overs between them.

I don't think White is a superstar, but I expect him to be a more successful #7 or #8 than Watson, purely because of his ability to hit boundaries from the start of his innings.

 

[just maybe]

Re: If Watson doesn't deserve a cap, why are there no criticisms of Cameron White?

White is in the side because he can come in at #7 or #8 and hit from the word 'go'. Watson has not shown an ability to do that, and Symonds now commands a spot higher up the order.

In other words, White is a big-hitting all-rounder who can accelerate late in the innings. His bowling is not world-class, but he and Symonds can be relied upon for at least 10 overs between them.

I don't think White is a superstar, but I expect him to be a more successful #7 or #8 than Watson, purely because of his ability to hit boundaries from the start of his innings.

His poor average in limited overs suggests otherwise. He is more likely to fail than succeed.