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The hype has gone into overdrive. I hope the next 8 years there is a fair bit of realism to the expectations.

For a longtime I've said the 2 biggest achievements for Australian sports would be to 1) win the FIFA World Cup - the world's game and 2) for an Oz male to win the Olympic 100m - the blue riband event in the world's sport.

This young man might just give the second challenge I mentioned above, a decent shake. But there is a long way to still go.

The link to the story in the courier mail





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This is the link to the SMH article.

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The Australian teenager who is already banking on winning Olympic gold – twice

Viral sprint sensation Gout Gout was only in year seven when he was identified as a future Olympic champion. Nothing that has happened since has changed that view.
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Four years ago, Di Sheppard walked across the oval at Ipswich Grammar to a spindly year 7 kid who had just run a race against bigger children. There was something about how he ran; it was different. He had something.
“I think you should do athletics,” the coach said.

Gout Gout smiled a big, toothy, uncertain smile. The next bit he was not expecting.
“Brisbane 2032 Olympics. It’s ours,” Sheppard said earnestly. “The double [100- and 200-metre gold medals].”

Gout didn’t know if she was serious, but the stern, grey-haired woman looked as though serious was all she did.
Nothing that has happened since that day has disabused Sheppard or Gout of the idea that he can be a dual Olympic gold medallist. Indeed, they are even more emboldened now than then about what will happen next: Gout will break 10 seconds for the 100m and 20 seconds for the 200m. He will win not one Olympic gold medal, but two. Like Usain Bolt.


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Gout won his heat in 20.38, got an excellent start and eased off with 20m to go. Lets see what he does in a few hours, just 1 day after running his 2 fastest times ever in 100m.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
10.17 legal wind +0.9m/s and not the greatest of starts.

Supposedly 16th fastest legal time for an U/18 male world wide, but as i said above I think there are errors in the World Athletics top list.
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Ok think I worked out what is wrong with World Athletics Top List for U/18's and U/20's. I think they need to upgrade their algorithm

If year of performance - year of birth is 18 but the actual difference is say 17 years and 4 months its not in the under 18 Top List.

If year of performance - year of birth is 17 but the actual difference is say 17 years and 9 months then it is in the under 18 Top List.
Eg born Feb 2006 performance is Dec 2023 then that is recorded in U/18 Top List
But if born Dec 1995 and performance is April 2013 then that is recorded in U/20 Top list

Yoshihide Kiryu of Japan in 2013 set the world age record for a 17 year old and this was in the World Athletics Statistics Handbook as he was 17 years old and 4 months and 13 days but the Top List algorithm says he is 18 years old and therefore its in the U/20's top list.

10.01+0.9Yoshihide KIRYU15 DEC 1995
JPN
JPN		1h3Hiroshima (JPN)28 APR 2013

This time set by USA's Brayden Williams at the World Juniors in Lima in August this year is recorded as the 5th fastest legal time for an U/18 but he was 17 years and 4 months and 25 days - 12 days older than Kiryu was, but gets recorded in the U/18's Top List as calculated by the Algorithm.

10.32-0.2Brayden WILLIAMS02 APR 2007
USA
USA		2h7Estadio Atlético de la VIDENA, Lima (PER)27 AUG 2024
 
Kid says he has been chasing Peter Norman's record this year.

The oldest open age Australian Athletics record in the book just gets knocked off.

Norman's splits were 10.70 + 9.36. Hopefully they will do Gout's analysis in next 24 hours.
 
hawkman said:
What is under 18 200m record?
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19.84 - Erriyon Knighton was 17 and 5 months at US Olympic trials in June 2021 and finished 3rd to qualify for Tokyo.

Bolt's world best age time as a 16 year old was 20.13 so he has that one in the bag over Bolt.
 
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I watched the race before Gout's which was the U/17 girls which was in a lot better time than the U/18 girls run after Gout's race.

Great battle between Amaya Mearns who won in 23.15 over 100m U/17 winner Thewbelle Philp in 23.40

That is the 2nd fastest U/18 female time only behind Raelene Boyle's Silver medal win in Mexico City when she 17 and ran a 22.74.

Australian athletics is in good hands for 2028 and 2032 Olympics.
 

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He's very different to Bolt. His cadence looks very high, Bolt was all power. Coaching will be pretty important from here, would hate to see him over do it in the gym and lose that foot speed but it's likely the reason his starts are a bit average.
 
Angus from athSTATS sent me this reply to my email re why some guys who do a great time as a 17 year old are counted as an U/20 time not an U/18 time in World Athletics' Top Lists.

the Underage categories are based on what age you turned in that year - so Gout Gout is turning 17 on 29 Dec - so this is his last year of U18 as he'll be turning 18 next year ... if he turned 17 on 1 Jan 2025 (ie 3 days later) then he'd have another year of U18. I find this problematic and unfair but for some reason this is the system - I think back in my day it was based on your age when competing (for records and comps).

So after 29 December any of the great times run by Gout will be in the U/20 Top Lists.

Every other sport I follow in Oz and some around the world, to be in an Underage comp be it 17, 18 or 19, you can't be that age as at 1st January not 31st December.
 
TheEscapeClub said:
Wow. Love to see the time for the second 100m, he loped away, spectacular.

I remember being at work when Bolt won the 100m in 2008, I gave a yell as he destroyed them easing up and people looked at me to see what I was watching.

That 200 just gave me the same feeling.
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Probably a 9.50. He did a 9.70 when he finished 2nd at World Junior Champs in August and come home like a train and almost caught winner South African Walaza, who also was the 100m champ. His time there was 20.60.

The Total Runnings guy made another video of him a couple of days ago and this is a screen shot of his last 100m split vs the last 100m times of the 200m finalists in Paris only a few weeks earlier. He is world class already.

The medal winners time in Paris were Tebego 19.46, Bednarek 19.62, Lyles 19.70

The Total Runnings guy will probably make another video of Gout in a weeks time after this weekends results.

For comparison's sake Peter Norman's splits at altitude in Mexico City 1968 Olympics was 10.70 + 9.36 = 20.06.

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RussellEbertHandball said:
Angus from athSTATS sent me this reply to my email re why some guys who do a great time as a 17 year old are counted as an U/20 time not an U/18 time in World Athletics' Top Lists.

the Underage categories are based on what age you turned in that year - so Gout Gout is turning 17 on 29 Dec - so this is his last year of U18 as he'll be turning 18 next year ... if he turned 17 on 1 Jan 2025 (ie 3 days later) then he'd have another year of U18. I find this problematic and unfair but for some reason this is the system - I think back in my day it was based on your age when competing (for records and comps).

So after 29 December any of the great times run by Gout will be in the U/20 Top Lists.

Every other sport I follow in Oz and some around the world, to be in an Underage comp be it 17, 18 or 19, you can't be that age as at 1st January not 31st December.
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And its because Erriyon Knighton is born 29 January his sub 20 sec for the 200m he ran as a 17 yo stand as u/18 records.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Probably a 9.50. He did a 9.70 when he finished 2nd at World Junior Champs in August and come home like a train and almost caught winner South African Walaza, who also was the 100m champ. His time there was 20.60.

The Total Runnings guy made another video of him a couple of days ago and this is a screen shot of his last 100m split vs the last 100m times of the 200m finalists in Paris only a few weeks earlier. He is world class already.

The medal winners time in Paris were Tebego 19.46, Bednarek 19.62, Lyles 19.70

The Total Runnings guy will probably make another video of Gout in a weeks time after this weekends results.

For comparison's sake Peter Norman's splits at altitude in Mexico City 1968 Olympics was 10.70 + 9.36 = 20.06.

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TRP guy has already made it.

 
The times that the 2nd Josiah John and 3rd Terrell Thorne place getters got, as 17 years olds are pretty decent. Just that Gout made them look slow. They rank in top 80 Australian male individuals - all ages.

That's the beauty of someone like Gout, he is a star, but he will push others as well, to improve.


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