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To all Collingwood supporters, yes you kicked 2 goals and 12 behinds in the 2nd half, finishing the game with 6 goals and 14 points, but the exuse, "We kicked inaccurate" is pathetic because we kicked the same amount of points, 14.
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kissstephanie if you think that was geelong at their best, you are in for one hell of a shock come finals time
just did enough to win last night, in cruise control
probably won't get away with that vs st kilda or bulldogs, but against collingwood it's fine
just did enough to win last night, in cruise control
probably won't get away with that vs st kilda or bulldogs, but against collingwood it's fine
PatrickBateman
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Struggling for accuracy on the big stage isn't uncommon. Geelong have suffered too, and did miss 2 easy shots 30m or so directly in front last night. I think Collingwood kicked VERY badly into their forward line in the 2nd half.. gave their forwards little chance by just bombing away. Again, this was due to pressure applied by the Cats... and Geelong played a much more defensive style against Collingwood, which we never have done before. Usually you guys consistently have one-on-one contests in the forward line... not last night. Geelong sacrificed some offence for defense last night, I think against a side like Collingwood it's warranted.
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It was a very intense game, the 1st quarter was like a GF, a lot of mistakes and players had to fight hard to get the ball. In the last quarter, both teams were stuffed, Geelong were really digging deep to chase and get the ball, the trip back from Brisbane came into it in the end and the same for the Magpies, they were stuffed too. We were all expecting an open game with both teams scoring high, but to the cats and Pies credit, there backline's last night were very good, it was hard for either team to get there normal game going.
Having said that, as a Geelong supporter, i could see that we didn't play that well, but still beat the 2nd best team in the comp who gave thier all, i also know that the Pies didn't play that good either, but that's the difference between the two sides, the Cats are still better, and last night showed everyone just where Collingwood are at, there's not a big gap between the two sides.
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Collingwood were much poorer than normal, and were definitely outcoached. To play low intensity reactionary footy is not going to beat them, whilst Geelong cannot improve much on that performance.
You are surely just a Collingwood bashing troll. There is no way that any slightly objective person coupld possibly feel that Collingwood's most important players played to their ability.
Geelong do play better than that against certain opposition, but I still don't see how they can make much improvement from that performance. Collingwood's important players were well down, but all of their important players performed very well for a full four quarters, with the exception of a couple of bursts from Collingwood.
Collingwood are much younger than Geelong, but are improving, and will continue to improve. That said, having a different style of game against Geelong and St.Kilda compared to the other thirteen teams is not going to work. Thankfully Collingwood has another chance to test themselves against Geelong in Round 19 in case they meet again in the finals.
I'm not glossing over anything. Geelong outplayed Collingwood on the night. Collingwood were well down and the intensity required to beat Geelong was not evident. If they had a "good crack," then that would be one thing, but they didn't because 52 tackles is not anywhere near enough. They did not take the game on as in previous weeks and that started in the coaches box.
It's obvious that we absolutely don't agree, so do you really want to continue going around in circles? Geelong were terrific, and I don't see how they can improve much on that performance. Collingwood were not and they did not play a style of game that had been successful in previous weeks, and they did not work hard enough.
Final Scoreline Was flattering towards The Pies if you ask me !
Except for a momentary lapse in concentration by Geelong for the last 3Minutes of the 2nd quarter where the Pies got a few cheap ones, Collingwood were never in it !!!
Good to See Leon Davis step up in the big games yet again !(Squibb !)
cheers
You're correct.
It was obvious that the cats knew they had them covered very early.
Too many party tricks from the cats last night. A bit silly really.
But the pies won't get near them in real finals type footy.
I can't wait till we're at full strength, with our best ruckman and one of our key inside midfielders back in the team.
"Ohhh... Ohhh... buttt... buttt... Josh Fraser, Simon Prestigiacomo, John Anthony, Tarkyn Lockyer & Leigh Brown didn't play last night..."
Who cares if they are languishing in the VFL... any excuse will do with this lot...
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So okay, I agree - Some of Collingwood's players were a bit down. Swan had plenty of the ball but didn't exert his presence on the game, Pendlebury probably matched it with Ling, Didak didn't set the game alight, Ball was great in the clearances but displayed his deficiencies in other areas. Other in form players such as Thomas and Wellingham struggled when the heat was on.
In comparison, Geelong had some good players who played to the best of their ability. Kelly, Bartel, Enright all played great games by their standards. But to suggest they have not much improvement left is ridiculous. Arguably their two best midfielders - Ablett and Selwood - both had good games, but no way to the standard that they can perform. Steve Johnson was mercurial at times but nothing like the 6 Goal games of recent weeks. Arguably the most underrated player in the League Paul Chapman got a fair chunk of the ball, but didn't hurt the opposition as much this week.
So, after all that, does Collingwoods room for improvement outweigh Geelong's by 36 points? I would be inclined to say no.
I would have thought a Collingwood supporter would be well aware what Geelong look like when they play terrific. After all its only been 8 or so months since we gave Collingwood a front row seat to us at our best.
Anyone who thinks Geelong can't improve from that performance is delusional at best.
Yes agree Geelong has fair bit of improvement in them. There were a number of fumbles in the backline last night that coughed up soft Collignwood goals. At their best their movement from the backline doesn't allow for that.
I do think K Stephanie has a very good point re Pies game plan that Malthouse employs v St Kilda and Geelong. Its too defensive - he isn'i prepared to back his side. Pies success this year has been built on taking the game on yet they were strangely subdued.
You won't beat Geelong if you don't take a risk
Pretty much the same as other Collingwood vs Geelong matches - same offenders as per norm.
We won the ruck - on the back of an awesome performance from Blake. Can't wait to have Otto' back for the next game.
Cloke was forced wide and up the ground for kicks, Dawes - like Rocca, Brown and Anthony before him - was kept statless by the man, Matty Scarlett.
Leon, Didak, Thomas - Enright, Mackie, Kelly; We all know the result there, again.
Is Harry O'Brien possibly the most overated player at the moment? Has 1 trick - kick the ball long. Turned it over countless times and didn't have the football nous to setup much.
Beams is a very good player. Jolly is not. Fraser should play ruck.
Collingwood pressured and played a tight defensive structure, but were eventually worn down by weight of possesion and control of the football. To tell the truth, it suprises me about all this talk of Collingwood being on top and missing opportunites - We should have put the game away in the 2nd quarter. We were on top and killing them, easy set shot misses to Byrnes x 2, Mooney x2 and a few other poor errors probably cost us a 5 goal lead - then Hunt gave away a silly goal with an intercepted handball....Collingwood were lucky to be in it at half time.
Both teams will get better - but i actually believe Geelong has more scope for improvement and am absolutely stoked to see how our structures just keep holding up against all types of tactics!
We won the ruck - on the back of an awesome performance from Blake. Can't wait to have Otto' back for the next game.
Cloke was forced wide and up the ground for kicks, Dawes - like Rocca, Brown and Anthony before him - was kept statless by the man, Matty Scarlett.
Leon, Didak, Thomas - Enright, Mackie, Kelly; We all know the result there, again.
Is Harry O'Brien possibly the most overated player at the moment? Has 1 trick - kick the ball long. Turned it over countless times and didn't have the football nous to setup much.
Beams is a very good player. Jolly is not. Fraser should play ruck.
Collingwood pressured and played a tight defensive structure, but were eventually worn down by weight of possesion and control of the football. To tell the truth, it suprises me about all this talk of Collingwood being on top and missing opportunites - We should have put the game away in the 2nd quarter. We were on top and killing them, easy set shot misses to Byrnes x 2, Mooney x2 and a few other poor errors probably cost us a 5 goal lead - then Hunt gave away a silly goal with an intercepted handball....Collingwood were lucky to be in it at half time.
Both teams will get better - but i actually believe Geelong has more scope for improvement and am absolutely stoked to see how our structures just keep holding up against all types of tactics!
Agreed. The poster who said Geelong couldn't improve much on tonight IS delusional. Let's not forget who was not playing for Geelong tonight:
1. Their *best* ruckman (who almost got the team over the line singleghandedly in the 2007 prelim against Collingwood) in Ottens
2. One of their elite and toughest midfielders / playmakers in Joel Corey
3. One of the toughest defensive forwards in the game who was a major factor in the 2009 GF win in Max Rooke
No room for improvement - you've gotta be f'n joking!!
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What the hell is with the random use of capitals in the OP?
You were obviously not at the game last night, the Cats were defintatly not in cruise control, they looked as lost as us at some stages. The difference was Geelong used the ball more efficient and hit targets, that is why they are the great team they are but to say they did only what needed to be done, as if to say they took the game lightly shows you up to be the couch sitting, bong smoking peanut you come across as.
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The game was a bit like the 08 grand final.
The Cats had a dominant period but could not put goals on the scoreboard, the Hawks then managed to kick a few goals in succession in a short period of time and it was game over.
The Cats had a dominant period but could not put goals on the scoreboard, the Hawks then managed to kick a few goals in succession in a short period of time and it was game over.
Still good enough to beat Collingwood without our best players.
Saints have played 5 teams above them on the ladder and beaten 4 of them.
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nah, we played pretty poorly
we took it easy in the first half, turned it on for ten minutes and then relaxed again for the last quarter
we used the ball pretty poorly actually
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would suggest that it shows our form is not as bad as most seem to think and that we can beat good teams, unlike collingwood.
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You were obviously not at the game last night. Geelong were pretty poor at finding targets for the majority of the game, didn't really stick to their 'handball-happy' game plan and composed players such as Scarlett and Mackie looked wanting for composure at crucial times.
They had more clangers than your team who was absolutely woeful with their disposal at times, and still managed to come back when you guys had your foot on their throat.
Very "un-Geelong-like" performance, I'd bet they're beaming that they got away with playing like that and still won comprehensively.
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Totally agree - Wellingham is one of the better things happening at PieLand,that is after Beams. However to the list I would add Leon Davis. He just can't get the business done when it counts. Give me a varcoe/Byrnes/Stokes any day.
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Good game last night. Very entertaining to watch.
But a few people must feel a big more crap after the game than the average Pies supporter.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94727/default.aspx
"undaunted punters are risking thousands on a Pies win at the MCG on Friday night, including bets of a $110,000 and $80,000 at odds of $2.07"
Ouch.
But a few people must feel a big more crap after the game than the average Pies supporter.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94727/default.aspx
"undaunted punters are risking thousands on a Pies win at the MCG on Friday night, including bets of a $110,000 and $80,000 at odds of $2.07"
Ouch.
