Oppo Camp Opposition supporters say the strangest things

[PhatBoy]

Not as good as watching McAvaney and others suck up to him in the commentary box. If they were all about being against violence on the field why did he have a job?

Because he had long retired, probably. That’s just a guess.

 

[Partridge]

Because he had long retired, probably. That’s just a guess.

Given how insufferable and puritanical they are I wouldn't have thought that would have made any difference.

 

[allrighty]

Missed the first bit where Newman congratulated the very young Steve Hocking

I will track it down, thanks Fred

 

[allrighty]

It was Steve Hocking who decked him and then Bews had a dip..

Good on him, thanks

 

[goyoucatters]

Given how insufferable and puritanical they are I wouldn't have thought that would have made any difference.

Where's the evidence of their puritanism? It's been an old boy's club for as long as I can ever remember. If you were a player of note, they fall all over themselves to pump up your tyres at every opportunity, no matter what your disciplinary record or litany of off-field indiscretions.

Carey has Matthews covered in his sleep for 'unbecoming incidents'. And yet he's routinely lauded as 'the King' by everyone he encounters in the media, week after excruciating week.

 

[allrighty]

It was Steve Hocking who decked him and then Bews had a dip..

I interviewed Bewsy for a job way back. Lovely guy and tough as nails

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Where's the evidence of their puritanism? It's been an old boy's club for as long as I can ever remember. If you were a player of note, they fall all over themselves to pump up your tyres at every opportunity, no matter what your disciplinary record or litany of off-field indiscretions.

Carey has Matthews covered in his sleep for 'unbecoming incidents'. And yet he's routinely lauded as 'the King' by everyone he encounters in the media, week after excruciating week.

No he hasn't.

 

[goyoucatters]

No he hasn't.

You might be talking about on the field. I'm talking about the whole box and dice.

 

[Partridge]

You might be talking about on the field. I'm talking about the whole box and dice.

If they were going to be serious about that there would be a few ex-players out of a gig. Make it interesting apply the same standards to fellow journalists.

 

[goyoucatters]

Jeans trots out the old whataboutism

The berttochi hams lol

Absolutely disgraceful from Jeans. Just don't turn up and let the matter run its course, rather than offer up such utter tripe to supposedly defend your position.

His statement was complete nonsense from start to finish.

 

[goyoucatters]

If they were going to be serious about that there would be a few ex-players out of a gig.

More than a few. Which only underlines how little puritanism I see in the standards applied to former players across the media. Play the game reasonably well, and you're a 'champion'. No matter what atrocious behaviour you're come up with off the field.

 

[Partridge]

More than a few. Which only underlines how little puritanism I see in the standards applied to former players across the media. Play the game reasonably well, and you're a 'champion'. No matter what atrocious behaviour you're come up with off the field.

I'm referring specifically to McAvaney and a few others with that. At times he was absolutely insufferable (more than usual that is) with what standards the game needed to maintain and so on. Made me vomit even more than usual.

 

[allrighty]

Absolutely disgraceful from Jeans. Just don't turn up and let the matter run its course, rather than offer up such utter tripe to supposedly defend your position.

His statement was complete nonsense from start to finish.

Hafey did well not to engage IMO

 

[goyoucatters]

Hafey did well not to engage IMO

I really, really liked Hafey. May not have been a genius coach by the time he ended up with us. But a better man you would struggle to find.

 

[allrighty]

I'm referring specifically to McAvaney and a few others with that. At times he was absolutely insufferable (more than usual that is) with what standards the game needed to maintain and so on. Made me vomit even more than usual.

McAvaney was a simulacrum of himself after the first couple of years when he was recognised as a great commentator. And he did his research so knew his shit, but after those couple of years, yes he was insufferable.

How he continued to get a gig is beyond me. Maybe he had photos.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

You might be talking about on the field. I'm talking about the whole box and dice.

So am I. Depends what you consider worse.

 

[allrighty]

More than a few. Which only underlines how little puritanism I see in the standards applied to former players across the media. Play the game reasonably well, and you're a 'champion'. No matter what atrocious behaviour you're come up with off the field.

We do have and have had a few ourselves

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

One very pissed off Geelong coach, could not even look at Jeans.

What a smug arrogant prick Jeans was.

 

[allrighty]

What a smug arrogant prick Jeans was.

Yes he played on being a police sergeant (??) a lot, too much IMO. I have no issue with cops but it was always just under the surface with Jeans.

 

[goyoucatters]

So am I. Depends what you consider worse.

Matthews' hit on Bruns was utterly appalling.

Carey's violence against women still has that covered for me, though.

 

[David the Cat]

Matthews' hit on Bruns was utterly appalling.

Carey's violence against women still has that covered for me, though.

Yes, it was appalling and not an isolated incident either...he did a similar off the ball king hit in a State game if I recall corectly..

O'Dea's hit on Greening was arguably worse given the longer term effect it had ...horrendous act of thuggery..

On Jeans..I had direct football experience with bim and he was neither smug nor arrogant in my experience of him...he was very good to me as a young footballer...

 

[PhatBoy]

I definitely don’t subscribe to that old school faux hard man crap that ‘what happens on the field stays on the field’ and that you just ignore something because it took place during a game of professional contact sport BUT I also don’t subscribe to the idea that a person can be defined for the rest of their life by one or two moments of being a c***.

Based on the things I’ve done in my life and mistakes I’ve made I HAVE to believe that you can f*** up and still redeem yourself or find a way to become a good person again. I don’t see why a Matthews or a Barry Hall, or yes, even a Carey or Ablett Sr if we extend this to off-field incidents shouldn’t be given the same latitude

 

[Partridge]

Yes, it was appalling and not an isolated incident either...he did a similar off the ball king hit in a State game if I recall corectly..

O'Dea's hit on Greening was arguably worse given the longer term effect it had ...horrendous act of thuggery..

On Jeans..I had direct football experience with bim and he was neither smug nor arrogant in my experience of him...he was very good to me as a young footballer...

Barry Cable it was. Might have been in Perth.

 

[David the Cat]

Barry Cable it was. Might have been in Perth.

ok .thanks....i had Robran as the victim but wasnt sure

 

[Partridge]

I definitely don’t subscribe to that old school faux hard man crap that ‘what happens on the field stays on the field’ and that you just ignore something because it took place during a game of professional contact sport BUT I also don’t subscribe to the idea that a person can be defined for the rest of their life by one or two moments of being a c***.

Based on the things I’ve done in my life and mistakes I’ve made I HAVE to believe that you can f*** up and still redeem yourself or find a way to become a good person again. I don’t see why a Matthews or a Barry Hall, or yes, even a Carey or Ablett Sr if we extend this to off-field incidents shouldn’t be given the same latitude

That's very reasonable and agree totally. Obviously the serial offenders - and Matthews was definitely one of them - are a little different. A whole host of players in recent times - Houli, Hawkins, Gaff - all had moments of absolute madness or frustration (even insanity). I wouldn't class any of them as dirty players though. Not remotely.

My personal view is the protests against a current or ex-player doesn't really relate to what they do and what they pretend to care about. Not really. It's a personal bias against that player and/or club they represented that was there already.