Oppo Camp Other Clubs News/General Discussion

[Vicky Park]

Geez, when Richmond go bad, they go very bad. Their bad is just about as bad as it gets. They might even be ‘badder’ than Carlton at its worst, and that’s saying something.

 

[sideswipe]

Geez, when Richmond go bad, they go very bad. Their bad is just about as bad as it gets. They might even be ‘badder’ than Carlton at its worst, and that’s saying something.

Good news for the Tiggeys is they have a really proud history of coming together in a crisis to focus on solutions rather than blaming then sacking each other.


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[jimmy35]

Did the whinging campaigner Scott also bring ‘that’ up in his post game whiney rant about umpires & rules?

My God that was a watch wasn’t it? ****ing annoying whinging ****wit.

 

[jimmy35]

Good news for the Tiggeys is they have a really proud history of coming together in a crisis to focus on solutions rather than blaming then sacking each other.


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[jimmy35]

Felt for the Tiggs a bit pre 3 flag era because a good mate of mine was a long suffering Tiger. But when they won those flags the entire supporter base became obnoxious and unbearable.

 

[gouki88]

Imagine if you have a doctor, or someone in contact with the umpires, who can stop the game and have a player removed for a concussion test that takes, 10, 15 minutes.
Now imagine a grand final with Naicos running riot in the first qtr and a half.
No send off rule.
So… do you deliberately slam his head into the ground to implement the HIA?
Does anyone think this is not a possible scenario?

I want the head protected but the rules as they stand right now encourage an opponent to inflict a concussion, or the player to inflict a concussion on himself in an effort to get a free.
NRL seem to have it right. A doctor can ask the ref to stop the game while a player is removed and a replacement installed. An opponent who is deemed to have inflicted the damage can be removed for a period, or the game, without replacement leaving the team short.
A simple knee jerk reaction is not enough from the rule makers. This requires a raft of rule implementations.

Given this hasn't happened, no, I do not think this scenario very plausible

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

The media really loves to get carried away with declaring sides contenders/finished don't they?

Now it seems to be all about Essendon.

For reference, this was the ladder at Round SEVENTEEN last year:



Reckon they need to just cool their jets a little. Particularly given that this season appears like it's going to be even more even.

 

[manicpie]

Let them pump up Bombers. They won't know how to handle the pressure.

Beat me to it

 

[TW Sherrin]

Geez, when Richmond go bad, they go very bad. Their bad is just about as bad as it gets. They might even be ‘badder’ than Carlton at its worst, and that’s saying something.

it looked like they were playing in running shoes. nearly all of them were slipping over.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Geez, when Richmond go bad, they go very bad. Their bad is just about as bad as it gets. They might even be ‘badder’ than Carlton at its worst, and that’s saying something.

To be fair, they have a fairly horrendous injury list, combined with learning a new game style/plan can't possibly help.

You never know, there's probably a LOT of players at that club feeling somewhat abandoned too?

How many players at Richmond do you reckon either re-signed or went there because of Dimma? Or promises made by Dimma? Now he just up and left them. Gale just up and left them.

They're human beings. I can totally understand a lot of Richmond players (particularly the older ones) feeling disillusioned and defeated. You're then also throwing inexperienced kids to the wolves in KEY roles thanks to the injury toll which is then further denting their confidence and it all combines to look like a recipe for disaster to me.

Yet, despite all of that? They beat Sydney, should have beat Carlton and St.Kilda.

I'm happy giving Richmond a mulligan this year before writing them off as a club completely.

But if we see this kind of performance next year too? With a (hopefully for them) better injury list? Sure, they're done for some time.

I think the real test for Richmond will be when:

• Dusty leaves/retires most likely this year
• Grimes retires most likely this year
• Lynch retires most likely this year or next
• Liam Baker goes to West Coast

Bolton is a fantastic player when he's on and playing with confidence. But he's a little bit of a downhill skier if we're being honest so that's when I think there'll be cause for concern.

Bolton right now at Collingwood would be something else.

 

[domus]

Let them pump up Bombers. They won't know how to handle the pressure.

Sadly, I think they are finally getting a backbone. They will be hard to beat when they are at their best as are most teams.

 

[swoop42]

All this fuss about the Cameron incident.

He said he was right to go on and watching the footage there was no obvious indication that he briefly lost consciousness immediately on impact and as far as I know he didn't stumble to his knees etc in the proceeding minutes. It wasn't remotely close to the incident of Aliir Alirr.

As we know now he's been ruled out due to delayed symptoms so the system is working as intended.

Football is a contact sport and if you want that to continue the usual suspects in the media need to stop wanting to rule out players the moment any knock to the head occurs.

If not obviously impaired surely an adult still has some agency over their own health and body out on a football ground.

 

[jc37]

To be fair, they have a fairly horrendous injury list, combined with learning a new game style/plan can't possibly help.

You never know, there's probably a LOT of players at that club feeling somewhat abandoned too?

How many players at Richmond do you reckon either re-signed or went there because of Dimma? Or promises made by Dimma? Now he just up and left them. Gale just up and left them.

They're human beings. I can totally understand a lot of Richmond players (particularly the older ones) feeling disillusioned and defeated. You're then also throwing inexperienced kids to the wolves in KEY roles thanks to the injury toll which is then further denting their confidence and it all combines to look like a recipe for disaster to me.

Yet, despite all of that? They beat Sydney, should have beat Carlton and St.Kilda.

I'm happy giving Richmond a mulligan this year before writing them off as a club completely.

But if we see this kind of performance next year too? With a (hopefully for them) better injury list? Sure, they're done for some time.

I think the real test for Richmond will be when:

• Dusty leaves/retires most likely this year
• Grimes retires most likely this year
• Lynch retires most likely this year or next
• Liam Baker goes to West Coast

Bolton is a fantastic player when he's on and playing with confidence. But he's a little bit of a downhill skier if we're being honest so that's when I think there'll be cause for concern.

Bolton right now at Collingwood would be something else.

Derek Hine loved Bolton his draft year and I think we missed him by 1 picking Sam McClarty the pick after him! The Vickery compensation pick.

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

How many short people do we need?

 

[jimmy35]

How many short people do we need?

To change a light bulb?

 

[NMBB]

How many short people do we need?

I think we're two players short

 

[Ctracks]

I think we're two players short

Too $hort

 

[76woodenspooners]

The media really loves to get carried away with declaring sides contenders/finished don't they?

Now it seems to be all about Essendon.

For reference, this was the ladder at Round SEVENTEEN last year:

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Reckon they need to just cool their jets a little. Particularly given that this season appears like it's going to be even more even.

Hmmm, is this the same Essendon who came within an umpire’s reversal in the last minute to draw with WCE <Checks fixture> only one round ago?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Hmmm, is this the same Essendon who came within an umpire’s reversal in the last minute to draw with WCE <Checks fixture> only one round ago?

Robbo is as we speak giving congratulations to Brad Scott and everyone at the club

Did they win the flag and we missed it? Lol

 

[Chameleon75]

Robbo is as we speak giving congratulations to Brad Scott and everyone at the club

Did they win the flag and we missed it? Lol

sheedy won’t be happy, Essendon’s improvement means his dream of having hird return are dead and buried

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

All this fuss about the Cameron incident.

He said he was right to go on and watching the footage there was no obvious indication that he briefly lost consciousness immediately on impact and as far as I know he didn't stumble to his knees etc in the proceeding minutes. It wasn't remotely close to the incident of Aliir Alirr.

As we know now he's been ruled out due to delayed symptoms so the system is working as intended.

Football is a contact sport and if you want that to continue the usual suspects in the media need to stop wanting to rule out players the moment any knock to the head occurs.

If not obviously impaired surely an adult still has some agency over their own health and body out on a football ground.

I think most on here including myself were just querying if the initial assessment should have been done off field and whether we have the protocols right. The media no doubt found their talking point and ran with it as usual.

 

[Black_White]

Gary Lyon is an idiot.
Trying to compare HIA with hamstring injury.
Oh, with a hammy you are taken off straight away for assessment, but in the Cameron incident he was assessed on the ground.
Oh Gary. Do you not understand that a hammy injury stops you competing at 100% so you are a liability to the team. A head injury is not immediately apparent and all four limbs are generally working. So you are not a liability.
That’s why a hammy goes off and a head knock stays on. Not because of care for the player, but for impact on field.

 

[swoop42]

I think most on here including myself were just querying if the initial assessment should have been done off field and whether we have the protocols right. The media no doubt found their talking point and ran with it as usual.

My post wasn't in relation to any poster comments.

I hadn't read them and still haven't.

 

[NMBB]

Gary Lyon is an idiot.
Trying to compare HIA with hamstring injury.
Oh, with a hammy you are taken off straight away for assessment, but in the Cameron incident he was assessed on the ground.
Oh Gary. Do you not understand that a hammy injury stops you competing at 100% so you are a liability to the team. A head injury is not immediately apparent and all four limbs are generally working. So you are not a liability.
That’s why a hammy goes off and a head knock stays on. Not because of care for the player, but for impact on field.

He is an overpaid buffoon

 

[Doc1763]

Gary Lyon is an idiot.
Trying to compare HIA with hamstring injury.
Oh, with a hammy you are taken off straight away for assessment, but in the Cameron incident he was assessed on the ground.
Oh Gary. Do you not understand that a hammy injury stops you competing at 100% so you are a liability to the team. A head injury is not immediately apparent and all four limbs are generally working. So you are not a liability.
That’s why a hammy goes off and a head knock stays on. Not because of care for the player, but for impact on field.

Unless you're Brody Mihocek