Oppo Camp Other Clubs News/General Discussion

[gouki88]

Kinda daft to be saying players should or shouldn't be penalised for behaviour which is currently unknown.

Suspend them if we play GWS first, otherwise wait and see

 

[unplugged]

AFL Chief and Board making phone calls to teams trading with Richmond to bend over it seems.


Richmond resurgence is an AFL mission perhaps

We look at their draft hand and think "this is an incredible haul," even if they trade out or live-trade picks into next year's draft.

We will laugh at how shit Richmond might be for the short-term... but a small part of me is worried for Richmond. They've had two genuine best 22-players retire in Martin and Grimes. They've got an aging Nankervis. They're losing two of their best players in Rioli and Bolton. They're losing Baker and also Graham.

Don't get me wrong, they've still got some good talent. Nankervis is a good ruck, they've still got Vlastuin, Broad, Balta and others. They may see more footy in 2025 from Lynch, Taranto, Prestia, Gibcus, etc. but their short-term future is very worrying.

A construction business would be reluctant to put 8 first-year apprentices on their books all at once. These young guys need to be learning from good players around them. Some of these lads will be thrust into playing AFL before they're ready because their draft haul is essentially going to be nearly a quarter of their list.

Worse for the AFL is that Richmond are going to cop half a dozen Sunday 1:10pm MCG games that bring in 30k crowds.

Not to mention 100+ point losses and the unfairness that it brings to teams getting them twice.

 

[sr36]

We look at their draft hand and think "this is an incredible haul," even if they trade out or live-trade picks into next year's draft.

We will laugh at how shit Richmond might be for the short-term... but a small part of me is worried for Richmond. They've had two genuine best 22-players retire in Martin and Grimes. They've got an aging Nankervis. They're losing two of their best players in Rioli and Bolton. They're losing Baker and also Graham.

Don't get me wrong, they've still got some good talent. Nankervis is a good ruck, they've still got Vlastuin, Broad, Balta and others. They may see more footy in 2025 from Lynch, Taranto, Prestia, Gibcus, etc. but their short-term future is very worrying.

A construction business would be reluctant to put 8 first-year apprentices on their books all at once. These young guys need to be learning from good players around them. Some of these lads will be thrust into playing AFL before they're ready because their draft haul is essentially going to be nearly a quarter of their list.

Worse for the AFL is that Richmond are going to cop half a dozen Sunday 1:10pm MCG games that bring in 30k crowds.

Not to mention 100+ point losses and the unfairness that it brings to teams getting them twice.

It's going to be a long road back to relevance.

Realistically, they'd be hoping to end up with a couple of stars and a couple of good players to start their rebuild around.

If they're lucky and it works, they're back in the running in about 2030.

Poor Yze is stuffed. It will take him 4 years to win the 14 games that you need to win in one year to make finals.

 

[HFF]

When you look at what contracted guys like Rioli and Bolton are going for, even Baker really, it’s on the very cheap side of what we paid for Houston

Well done to Mr Leppitsch in his first rodeo.

 

[sr36]

When you look at what contracted guys like Rioli and Bolton are going for, even Baker really, it’s on the very cheap side of what we paid for Houston

Well done to Mr Leppitsch in his first rodeo.

It's a bit of a worry for our top up strategy though. Fortunately I think we're fine for stars for a while and will be shopping at the solid player end for the next couple of years.

 

[Football God]

I wonder how many picks Richmond are going to use in the draft?

Regarding a trade on Macrae, like others have said, Tigers could be an option and if Fin wants to stay in Melbourne well maybe we could package a couple of the picks in the 50s and Fin for their pick 24 if they aren’t going to use it.

 

[gouki88]

It's a bit of a worry for our top up strategy though. Fortunately I think we're fine for stars for a while and will be shopping at the solid player end for the next couple of years.

I think the Perryman/Lipinski calibre of player will be where we look.

Or, teams dumping veterans like Mitchell.

 

[HFF]

It's a bit of a worry for our top up strategy though. Fortunately I think we're fine for stars for a while and will be shopping at the solid player end for the next couple of years.

It’s not that much of s worry as we will still be able to bring in players in the future and have a father son candidate next season to add to our youth stocks

 

[sr36]

I wonder how many picks Richmond are going to use in the draft?

Regarding a trade on Macrae, like others have said, Tigers could be an option and if Fin wants to stay in Melbourne well maybe we could package a couple of the picks in the 50s and Fin for their pick 24 if they aren’t going to use it.

Finn has no value in trade. If he gets traded it'll be for nothing.

 

[sideswipe]

It will take Richmond 4 years and 5 coaches to win the 14 games that you need to win in one year to make finals.

Fixed

 

[Ugene41]

Here's the superdraft of 2001

About a dozen champions, but they were spread out at all stages of the draft. As well as the stars, there were misses or meh players all the way through. Anyone who thinks there's a sure thing at pick 10 because it's a strong draft is kidding themselves.

2001 AFL National Draft - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

Are we going to get Dane Swan again with our pick 58 in this year's superdraft? This Houston deal gets better and better!

 

[sr36]

Are we going to get Dane Swan again with our pick 58 in this year's superdraft? This Houston deal gets better and better!

Unfortunately, they think that pick 58 will become a better pick by the time it's used - we should have requested 65 instead.

 

[gouki88]

Are we going to get Dane Swan again with our pick 58 in this year's superdraft? This Houston deal gets better and better!

I will settle for Lachie Neale

 

[Ugene41]

Unfortunately, they think that pick 58 will become a better pick by the time it's used - we should have requested 65 instead.

Brisbane have pick 66. Kreuger plus pick 58 (points) for Dev plus pick 65.

 

[Visions]

Can we put a request in to the AFL to play Richmond thrice?

That privilege would go to Carlton.

AFL need to give them easy games so that they can scrape into the 8.

 

[Anzacday]

 

[gouki88]

Seems like a pretty huge difference to me

 

[Kirby]

It's going to be a bore fest of a draft this year with Richmond having all of the first round picks.

 

[WakeUpPies]

I was just going to say playing Richmond is going to be like playing year 1 GWS/GC

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Behind a paywall, sorry. Just more/continuing Dee drama.

Glen Bartlett accuses Demons great and club president of defamation

Former Melbourne Football Club president Glen Bartlett has accused new president Brad Green of defaming him and his partner, as part of his case against the club.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Behind a paywall, sorry. Just more/continuing Dee drama.

Glen Bartlett accuses Demons great and club president of defamation

Former Melbourne Football Club president Glen Bartlett has accused new president Brad Green of defaming him and his partner, as part of his case against the club.

www.theage.com.au

Melbourne is just the gift that keeps on giving.

Bloody great watching.

 

[gouki88]

Behind a paywall, sorry. Just more/continuing Dee drama.

Glen Bartlett accuses Demons great and club president of defamation

Former Melbourne Football Club president Glen Bartlett has accused new president Brad Green of defaming him and his partner, as part of his case against the club.

www.theage.com.au

Text:

Former Melbourne Football Club president Glen Bartlett has accused new president Brad Green and other directors of defaming him and his partner in statements issued by the club, one of which was retweeted by Green.

Bartlett’s statement of claim in his defamation case against Green, former club president Kate Roffey and the club’s board of directors was released by the Federal Court on Tuesday.

Bartlett takes aim at statements issued by the Demons on August 15 and 16 last year. The first – which took umbrage at claims the club alleged were made by Bartlett’s partner, Victoria Laspas, in a complaint to WorkSafe Victoria – was published in the Herald Sun and other media outlets.


The second was an MFC board statement published on the club’s website and social media channels, and sent to members, in which the board rejected allegations about premiership coach Simon Goodwin and his behaviour.

The claims were “unequivocally” denied by the club and the coach.

“The board of the Melbourne Football Club unequivocally refute the unsubstantiated, historical and outrageous accusations against Simon Goodwin and other club leaders as published in today’s Herald Sun. The untested and unproven claims were made by Ms Laspas in a statement she prepared to support her partner, Mr Bartlett, in legal proceedings that were discontinued by him. The views expressed by Ms Laspas are her recollection of historical events and are in direct contrast with the recollections of the Melbourne Football Club Board,” the Demons said in the August 16 statement, which Bartlett reproduced in his statement of claim.

In the statement of claim released on Tuesday, Bartlett said Greenwas “the holder and controller of an X (formerly Twitter) account under the account handle of @bradgreen18”, and that he had reposted the second statement “on X, where he has approximately 10,700 followers”.

Bartlett argues in the document that, as a result of the statements, he and his partner had “suffered serious harm” and “have been greatly injured in their credit, character and reputation” and “have been brought into public hatred, scandal, odium and contempt”.

In his statement of claim, Bartlett argues that “the statements identified the second applicant [Laspas] as a complainant to WorkSafe, when she had not been previously so identified, and such disclosure was wrongful and has caused the second applicant significant personal distress”.


The Demons had alleged “at no point has Victoria Laspas been a volunteer or employee of the club”, but Bartlett say she “was a volunteer sitting on the MFC Women’s Committee during 2013 and 2014”.
Bartlett is seeking damages and an injunction from what he argues are any further potential defamatory comments made by the club.

The Demons were contacted for comment on Tuesday night. Bartlett did not wish to comment.

Bartlett served as the Demons’ president from 2013 until his sudden departure in April 2021. He was replaced by Roffey, who stood down this year amid the Christian Petracca drama.

Separately, Bartlett is suing the AFL in an escalation of the disputes he has had with various industry figures over the past three years. He filed a statement of claim on Thursday last week against the league through law firm Clayton Utz.

 

[jimmy35]

Suspend them if we play GWS first, otherwise wait and see

A fair and just result that will be popular with general public and media alike. Fine solution imo

 

[TW Sherrin]

if they get heap suspended no doubt we wont play htme until they return