Oppo Camp Other Games Rolling Thread (2023)

[76woodenspooners]

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I would say so

I wonder if it’s a tactic of players to whack the post as the ball goes past to deceive the goal umpire and/or snicko?

Would be pretty devious if so.

 

[gouki88]

Neither of those shots by themselves are conclusive. Do they review with two separate angles simultaneously trusting that they are perfectly in sync?

I think it was a goal and the umpire got confused because the Swans player hit the padding and it would have moved as the ball went past it. But I'm not convinced it would have been overturned.

Yes, they scroll the multiple angles at the same time to determine where the ball is. As conclusive as it gets that the ball wasn't near the post

 

[gouki88]

I wonder if it’s a tactic of players to whack the post as the ball goes past to deceive the goal umpire and/or snicko?

Would be pretty devious if so.

Devious, but wouldn't put it past them

 

[jmac70]

Nah. Just accept the errors. The problem with review systems is that we expect them to get it right 100% of the time and they don't. But we then become furious.

That’s easy for us to say. Adelaide fans might have a different perspective.

If I were that umpire, I’d stay away from Adelaide for the rest of my life.

 

[sr36]

That’s easy for us to say. Adelaide fans might have a different perspective.

If I were that umpire, I’d stay away from Adelaide for the rest of my life.

He'll get a heroes welcome from Port fans.

 

[caloschwaby]

Disgraceful from the AFL. I'm actually embarrassed to be so emotionally invested in this sport when that kind of stuff happens. God help us if the AFL ticks it off tomorrow.

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Said this at the Geelong match after the (second) Jezza OOB incident. Feels like a WWE-tier entertainment comp at the best of times

 

[eyeroller]

Oh no.... worst angle yet

 

[caloschwaby]

How would that work?

Given that the goal umpire didn’t call for a review, it meant that it was a kickout with a minute left on the clock.

Does the ARC call the field umpire in the middle of play (or even after the final siren) and say “Hey, stop the game” (or even “restart the game”), “we’ve reviewed that previous Adelaide point and found it was a goal.” Take the ball to the center and we’ll contact the timekeeper to set the game clock back to XX:YY”?

If it's blatantly wrong like last night's, I'm sure the momentary outrage from the opponents would be worth it (before they quickly realise they got a freebie).

It would work like this:

1. Keys kicks the "goal", umpire makes mistake and signals behind as Sydney prepare to kick out.
2. AFL ARC the moment they realise this ball is going close to the post will initiate their 1 minute review window and get replays up ASAP. (alerting field umpire via in-ear but advising them to continue with play). If they miss this 1 minute window, the play stands as the review was likely inconclusive.
3. Sydney begin kick out and take a mark off half back while ARC is reviewing. Sydney chip it fast to the middle of the wing
4. Meanwhile ARC buzz the field umpire to stop play as their review concludes it was a goal, umpire explains and the best replay is shown on screen/TV immediately so people know what's going on.
5. Umpire announces its a ball up in the middle with time reset. If its a behind instead of a goal, time reset and ball is taken back to kick out.

I'd also like to add that maybe this feature of ARC could be limited to the 4th quarter, as particularly this is where howlers truly "decide" the game.

 

[stormskye]

Oh no.... worst angle yet

OMG!!!!!

 

[eyeroller]

On a different note, apparently Jack Ziebell

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was coward punched last night. What the hell is wrong with people?

 

[sr36]

OMG!!!!!

Adelaide is going to go nuts. The Advertiser ran with the umpiring on the back page for about 4 days after the umpire missed Elliott getting Dawson high in that game earlier in the year.

 

[gouki88]

Oh no.... worst angle yet

Hard to go frame by frame on Twitter, but that fan angle is incredibly damning

 

[gouki88]

On a different note, apparently Jack Ziebell was coward punched last night. What the hell is wrong with people?

He's what, 1 or 2 weeks into retirement? People are cooked

 

[cakewalk06]

They call for score reviews at the drop of a hat every other time and kill all momentum/celebration … then a crucial call … nothing.

Sack Gil I say.

 

[Jasper84]

If it's blatantly wrong like last night's, I'm sure the momentary outrage from the opponents would be worth it (before they quickly realise they got a freebie).

It would work like this:

1. Keys kicks the "goal", umpire makes mistake and signals behind as Sydney prepare to kick out.
2. AFL ARC the moment they realise this ball is going close to the post will initiate their 1 minute review window and get replays up ASAP. (alerting field umpire via in-ear but advising them to continue with play). If they miss this 1 minute window, the play stands as the review was likely inconclusive.
3. Sydney begin kick out and take a mark off half back while ARC is reviewing. Sydney chip it fast to the middle of the wing
4. Meanwhile ARC buzz the field umpire to stop play as their review concludes it was a goal, umpire explains and the best replay is shown on screen/TV immediately so people know what's going on.
5. Umpire announces its a ball up in the middle with time reset. If its a behind instead of a goal, time reset and ball is taken back to kick out.

I'd also like to add that maybe this feature of ARC could be limited to the 4th quarter, as particularly this is where howlers truly "decide" the game.

Or just get rid of this dumb "quirk" of our game and make it like every other sport where it doesn't matter if the ball hits the post as long as it crosses the goal line. If it hits the post and stays in, play on. The amount of bullshit and unfairness that could be spared just by this simple fix far outweighs the cries from traditionalist to keep this original aspect of our game.

 

[gouki88]

Or just get rid of this dumb "quirk" of our game and make it like every other sport where it doesn't matter if the ball hits the post as long as it crosses the goal line. If it hits the post and stays in, play on. The amount of bullshit and unfairness that could be spared just by this simple fix far outweighs the cries from traditionalist to keep this original aspect of our game.

What happens on over the post?

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

If I were that umpire, I’d stay away from Adelaide for the rest of my life.

I'm not even an umpire and I could live with not going to Adelaide again

 

[Jasper84]

What happens on over the post?

It's much easier for the cameras to be able to determine the trajectory of the ball as it sails over the post (see Lynch 2022). On the very rare occasion that this did occur, the AFL just need to have a hard and fast rule on it. Scrap the umpire's call and make it either indeterminate = goal or indeterminate= behind. Though, the amount of times that this rule would have to be used would be so rare compared to other game defining rules.

 

[gouki88]

It's much easier for the cameras to be able to determine the trajectory of the ball as it sails over the post (see Lynch 2022). On the very rare occasion that this did occur, the AFL just need to have a hard and fast rule on it. Scrap the umpire's call and make it either indeterminate = goal or indeterminate= behind. Though, the amount of times that this rule would have to be used would be so rare compared to other game defining rules.

Yeah, that is probably how it would work. I don't mind it becoming a goal if it is through off the post. Not a fan of the continuance of play if it rebounds into the field though, think it's too messy.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Isn’t the ARC supposed to review every goal just to make sure that there are no issues?


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It was ruled a behind so there is no review.

 

[GreekLunatic]

why cant the come out and say it was wrong. Imagine losing a gf to that

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

why cant the come out and say it was wrong. Imagine losing a gf to that

They have ..

 

[GreekLunatic]

They have ..

so all they get is the goal ump stood down did the stand down the boundary ump from last week too

 

[Jasper84]

Yeah, you could just make it over the line is a goal, back into play is a behind

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

so all they get is the goal ump stood down did the stand down the boundary ump from last week too

No mention that the umpire was stood down for our incident..

'On the second matter, the AFL has conceded an error was made and Cameron should not have been allowed to receive a handball while standing out of bounds.

Perhaps fortunately for the AFL and its officials, their blushes were somewhat spared by the Collingwood victory.'