List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[soreplums]

How these "professionals" struggle to contain their biases is absolutely baffling

"Richmond got all these picks Collingwood suck lol"

Mate...please show me where it's carved in stone that Top draft pick are guaranteed to be superstar players? Because as a Collingwood supporter our history would suggest otherwise

Did Jon bother to think about how Richmond will keep all these kids if they all become stars?

Dean Polo, Richard Tambling, J Oakley Nicholls

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Fat Jesus]

Yeah contracted, but he could be one we delist and rookie

I still like AJ. He needs to listen closely to what Fly is telling him. Super talented

 

[Jen2310]

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Dean Polo, Richard Tambling, J Oakley Nicholls

To be fair those are quite old lol

I think the strike rate on Top 10 picks is far better than it's ever been, but it's still not a guarantee. Let alone anything outside the Top 10


There are so many ways this can go wrong for Richmond:

1) All those kids turn out not great
2) All of them turn out great but they can't keep them all under the cap
3) They turn out great but want to leave after playing in a garbage team for their first 3 years

Whether you like our "players not picks" strategy or not, we objectively strengthened our list. One of the players we did that with was a player who was unanimously agreed to be the best player available in the trade period

 

[shizzle]

Membrey must be a lock with Kruegs gone

 

[gtrain23]

How does membrey fit in tho with checkers mcstay cox resting forward plus all the smalls

 

[MightyPies2010]

Great article/ analysis of the trade period.....

How to assess which clubs improved or failed in the AFL trade period

After a week and a half of furrowed brows and frantic paperwork, the dust has begun to settle on a new footy future for all 18 AFL clubs.

www.abc.net.au

 

[lones37]

Don't reckon Adelaide was 7th, they topped up to have a serious crack next year.

 

[BillyElliott]

Dwayne gets it. All these other dipsticks talking down our future. 2025 is the future. Coming off a premiership & then just missing the 8, why wouldn't we be going for another premiership next year? Isn't that what you should be aiming for unless you're going through a complete rebuild like Tigers?

 

[Exambolor]

Don't reckon Adelaide was 7th, they topped up to have a serious crack next year.

I’d put them 5th, they got ANB, Cumming and Peatling and whoever they get at Pick 4. That’s a great trade period, pretty much improved in every area they needed

 

[BillyElliott]

How does membrey fit in tho with checkers mcstay cox resting forward plus all the smalls

You're assuming everyone is going to be fit all at the same time. It hasn't happened yet.. I think Membrey would be a great get.

 

[sideswipe]

How does membrey fit in tho with checkers mcstay cox resting forward plus all the smalls

Depth

 

[soreplums]

To be fair those are quite old lol

I think the strike rate on Top 10 picks is far better than it's ever been, but it's still not a guarantee. Let alone anything outside the Top 10


There are so many ways this can go wrong for Richmond:

1) All those kids turn out not great
2) All of them turn out great but they can't keep them all under the cap
3) They turn out great but want to leave after playing in a garbage team for their first 3 years

Whether you like our "players not picks" strategy or not, we objectively strengthened our list. One of the players we did that with was a player who was unanimously agreed to be the best player available in the trade period

Yeah… I was just taking the Pi55.
At the very least, if they all become good they will be good trade able assets for the future.
The challenge is devoting the resources for all of them at the same time to meet each of their individual development needs over the next four or five years while bringing in new draftees over this time.

 

[soreplums]

Dwayne gets it. All these other dipsticks talking down our future. 2025 is the future. Coming off a premiership & then just missing the 8, why wouldn't we be going for another premiership next year? Isn't that what you should be aiming for unless you're going through a complete rebuild like Tigers?

I don’t get Carlton.
They traded pick 11, F1 and F2, Owies and Kennedy for an 8 pick upgrade in an even draft and a very late second/ third rounder?

Did I miss something?

 

[Pistol Night]

I don’t get Carlton.
They traded pick 11, F1 and F2, Owies and Kennedy for an 8 pick upgrade in an even draft and a very late second/ third rounder?

Did I miss something?

This number 3 pick has all the pressure in the world on him. I hope they stuff it up royally. One things for certain, we'll be making comparisons to Nicks first and second years and if he doesn't compare they'll be coping it

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I absolutely love what Richmond has done for the 17 other clubs in the AFL.

Looking forward to a result similar to 2004:

1. Deledio
4. Tambling
12. Meyer
16. Pattison
20. Polo

Notable misses by the Tigers in the top 10:

Jarryd Roughead
Lance Franklin
Jordan Lewis
Chris Egan

Liked for including Chris Egan as a miss. Maximum mirth points.

 

[Jafo]

Sully 1yr extension

 

[sam_e]

Would be 4 rookies
Dean.
Long.
Sullivan
Smit

Who is the 5th?

Parker as catB

 

[Jen2310]

Parker as catB

Yeah, but I don't include parker in the 6 Cat A list spots. Given not anyone can be put on that list.

 

[soreplums]

Sully 1yr extension

Hoping there’s confirmation of Reef for an extension

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I'd do that with him rather than Reef, because Reef has a touch more of a chance to make it - so you don't want him to come on and then be a UFA down the track. A small risk.

Good point Swipey!

 

[JLC]

How these "professionals" struggle to contain their biases is absolutely baffling

"Richmond got all these picks Collingwood suck lol"

Mate...please show me where it's carved in stone that Top draft pick are guaranteed to be superstar players? Because as a Collingwood supporter our history would suggest otherwise

Did Jon bother to think about how Richmond will keep all these kids if they all become stars?

That is the problem - very rarely are these things revisited.

It seems now a days their are premierships awarded for a teams presence in the national draft.

 

[sam_e]

Yeah, but I don't include parker in the 6 Cat A list spots. Given not anyone can be put on that list.

max senior 36-38, catA rooks 6, catB rooks 2

total squad max 44

ie. can have up to /max of 6 catA and 2 catB but don't need to carry that many

 

[Vankri]

The narrative that we’re ’all in’ for the short term and that we should towards the future instead is absurd. It’s never all black or all white but what would they have us do instead?

Go with a Richmond style fire sale for top picks? We’d have to put Jordy and Moore on the table to get us anywhere near that haul as our oldies are not going for first rounders. And then what? Have Nick waste 5y of his career running with a bunch of 18yo? Not to mention that had we done this exact strategy in 2020, we would have essentially missed out on a flag.

Or are they saying we should have kept our picks and cap and not look to improve our list with Schultz, Houston, Perryman and maybe Membrey/Tomlinson? Why would we not improve the current best 23 when we’re just 12m away from a flag and after a year we all feel was wasted opportunity.

It really makes no sense at all. Worst case we go downhill fast and none of our current youngsters come on and all that means is we miss out on top pick next year (who cares though because McGuane) and linger at the bottom as we rebuild. It just delays a rebuild by a year or two. That’s nothing against the chance at pinching a flag in the next 2-3y.

We can get as many top picks as we want by being complete shithouse after this strategy doesn’t deliver. Not that I think any of this will happen, we’ll keep being somewhat competitive, top up with free agents and build around Nick for the next 10y.