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AFLW 2024 - Round 6 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
blues76 said:Fair dinkum, he is a dead set toss...playing duds when he knows they wont get us anywhere...always says what we want to hear...im sick of his crap.
Go away!AaronM said:If yo ulot hate the way your club is playing then go to http://www.sackpagan.com.au and sign the petition.
you can talk the talk but can you lot walk the walk ?
We won't be sacking Pagan, just as Essendon won't be sacking Sheedy. The last thing clubs that are struggling need is to go down the coach sacking road, demonstrating instability and creating doubt in the mind of sponsors, members and players alike. Also the AFL will not be looking at Carlton favourably if they are paying for Pagan if he is no longer coaching. They would rightfully refuse to hand over any money towards solving our cash flow problems because if would be a demonstration of poor financial management at the club,AaronM said:If yo ulot hate the way your club is playing then go to http://www.sackpagan.com.au and sign the petition.
you can talk the talk but can you lot walk the walk ?
You know, I think we can win this week, too. Am I stupid? No. Am I overly optimistic? No. I am a passionate Carlton supporter who watches the game every week expecting to win. I was no less or more confident going into the Melbourne and Essendon games as I was going into the St Kilda or Adelaide games. I wouldn't be following Carlton if I didn't think they could win every week. In fact any supporter that watches a game with the mindset that their team can't win, is not a true supporter.blues76 said:Fair dinkum, he is a dead set toss...playing duds when he knows they wont get us anywhere...always says what we want to hear...im sick of his crap.
mate im as passionate as the next blues supporter and i see em every week too but after you watch some of the stuff they dish up lately, why would i think we'd beat them at subi? geez we're talkin about fundamentals of the game...kicking and hittin a man 15m away...actually laying a tackle...and i repeat, playing duds who will get us nowhere...i want to win but im also realistic...mediumsizered said:You know, I think we can win this week, too. Am I stupid? No. Am I overly optimistic? No. I am a passionate Carlton supporter who watches the game every week expecting to win. I was no less or more confident going into the Melbourne and Essendon games as I was going into the St Kilda or Adelaide games. I wouldn't be following Carlton if I didn't think they could win every week. In fact any supporter that watches a game with the mindset that their team can't win, is not a true supporter.
Did you think Richmond would beat Adelaide? If you go out with a game plan and stick to it, anything could happen. Who thought St Kilda would beat Carlton in Round 9, 1995? Possibly the best ever Carlton side getting beaten by a mediocre St Kilda side. How did that happen?blues76 said:mate im as passionate as the next blues supporter and i see em every week too but after you watch some of the stuff they dish up lately, why would i think we'd beat them at subi? geez we're talkin about fundamentals of the game...kicking and hittin a man 15m away...actually laying a tackle...and i repeat, playing duds who will get us nowhere...i want to win but im also realistic...
i think we are better than what we have shown and I think the players know that they are better than what they have shown. It could all come together at any moment. the boys going out there each week have skill, they have passion (except Stevens) and they have a belief that they can achieve something. just need those football gods to smile on us and things can change very quickly.blues76 said:mate im as passionate as the next blues supporter and i see em every week too but after you watch some of the stuff they dish up lately, why would i think we'd beat them at subi? geez we're talkin about fundamentals of the game...kicking and hittin a man 15m away...actually laying a tackle...and i repeat, playing duds who will get us nowhere...i want to win but im also realistic...
I totally agree, well said.stokesy said:What the hell is he meant to say?
"Nah I don't think we have any chance, probably no point going over, the players aren't confident, I'm not confident, what's the point of playing?"
Is that what you would prefer him to say?
Good stuff Pagan, his comments give you a bit of a lift.
Just for the record, his theory on not playing the kids is absolutely correct... I'd like to see one of Kennedy, Blackwell or Russel this week, but leave the rest playing good footy for the reserves.
Will be good to see them all in the VFL Grand Final later in the year too.
It is great when you direct logical and reasoned arguments back at trolls, they have no idea how to handle it.mediumsizered said:We won't be sacking Pagan, just as Essendon won't be sacking Sheedy. The last thing clubs that are struggling need is to go down the coach sacking road, demonstrating instability and creating doubt in the mind of sponsors, members and players alike. Also the AFL will not be looking at Carlton favourably if they are paying for Pagan if he is no longer coaching. They would rightfully refuse to hand over any money towards solving our cash flow problems because if would be a demonstration of poor financial management at the club,
FWIW, I thought it was a bad move on the part of the Bombers to re-sign Sheedy when his last contract finished because the cracks were already appearing in the Essendon list and it was fairly obvious the club was on the way down. Should have cleaned out the playing and coaching lists at that time.
blues76 said:Fair dinkum, he is a dead set toss...playing duds when he knows they wont get us anywhere...always says what we want to hear...im sick of his crap.
bluey blue said:I totally agree, well said.
bluesinsider said:Good news is Josh Kennedy is playing, and he will be stay in Perth for a few days after the match. Lets hope Pagan gives him some time on the ground to show us some of what he has.
stokesy said:In front of family and friends it could be a great thing for him to produce a few big parks marks and hopefully 3 - 4 goals.
Denis, don't put him on the bench.
he and muprh are two of the very few reasons why i watch carlton...it just kills me that JK and Blackwell get dropped after a hiding and 1 qtr of game time each. wheres carlos? play him! sporn livo teague prenda should never play seniors againbluesinsider said:Good news is Josh Kennedy is playing, and he will be stay in Perth for a few days after the match. Lets hope Pagan gives him some time on the ground to show us some of what he has.