Certified Legendary Thread Patrick Cripps and Ah Chee

[carlton_99]

Carlton get their own set of rule books

Carlton have literally appealed multiple decisions that were just as suspect in the last few years and failed. The Plowman one was just as bad as Cripps' one. If you elect to bump and get someone high its a reportable act - Cripps did not elect to bump. The reverse camera angle clearly shows him with his eyes on the ball and hands out. The AFL lawyer even admitted that Cripps was going for the ball - case should never have gone this far

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Makes no difference anyway, they’re still not beating dees or pies and they will miss the finals.

The Dees will kill them but even your mob can nearly beat the Pies, that's where it'll get spicy, especially if they knock us out of the top 4 with Cripps BOG

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Makes no difference anyway, they’re still not beating dees or pies and they will miss the finals.

Maybe but the tears and melts from opposition sooks tonight have been well worth it!!!

 

[Stamos]

Pretty clear Day changed direction into Ryder at the last second and all Ryder could do was stop and brace

Bad decision, and should have appealed, but also different to Cripps.

The AFL don't really give a shit about concussion, or they would be suspending on the action, rather than the outcome.
The current method is purely arse-covering to limit litigation. It's farcical.

But it is fundamental to the game to be able to contest the ball.
It was a shocking decision on Tuesday night, and tonight is good for the game.

 

[Jibroni]

Wonder how much the Lygon Street Mafia contributed to this?

But in all seriousness I can live with Cripps action not being worthy of suspension. I can’t accept there being a different set of rules for star players than the rest of the competition.

 

[jooce8891]

Lol, just bin the whole system now. Why wouldn't every ban go this far if all it takes is a lawyer speaking gibberish until the jury is tired to overturn it

gibberish or you just dont understand big words?

 

[Sean_09]

Never in doubt. Too much money to lose from the Carlton/Collingwood game

 

[adammania9]

Carlton have literally appealed multiple decisions that were just as suspect in the last few years and failed. The Plowman one was just as bad as the Cripps' one. If you elect to bump and get someone high its a reportable act - Cripps did not elect to bump. The reverse camera angle clearly shows him with his eyes on the ball and hands out. The AFL lawyer even admitted that Cripps was going for the ball - case should never have gone this far

Cripps did elect to bump. It is clearly shown in the vision. He barrelled into Ah Chee’s noggin and concussed him when he had every chance not to. It’s an awful, awful decision and the AFL has come out and said you’re allowed to take out a player’s head as long as the football is near

 

[bungalow_bill]

Nope. Results will likely be same with or without Cripps.

The *up here is the AFL.

The Lions danced around Cripps and Co like they were traffic cones. Pies and Dees will have no issues.

 

[smit_is]

What happened to old mate who was ‘educating’ us all and giving out all the legal advice??

Think it might have been you The Royal Sampler

Was actually thinking it might have been you representing the AFL on Tuesday night, particularly after hearing all the reports of how bad he was.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Lol, just bin the whole system now. Why wouldn't every ban go this far if all it takes is a lawyer speaking gibberish until the jury is tired to overturn it

If his name was Cotchin we wouldn't have needed it to go this far

 

[Greggy]

Will be the last thing Carlton win this year.

 

[Stamos]

Lol, just bin the whole system now. Why wouldn't every ban go this far if all it takes is a lawyer speaking gibberish until the jury is tired to overturn it

How about they don't **** up the decisions to start with, and then the lawyers don't need to get involved.

“The finding was unreasonable and did not comply with the requirements of procedural fairness,” Kellman said, adding there was “an error of law”.

“We concluded (that the) finding of the jury was unreasonable.”

Appeal won: Patrick Cripps in the clear over rough conduct charge

Patrick Cripps has sensationally been cleared to play this weekend after the AFL appeals board overturned Tuesday night’s tribunal decision to ban him for two matches on a rough conduct charge.

www.theage.com.au

 

[dean33]

I don't see the problem here.

The AFL established a precedent with Willie Rioli. If Rioli got off, so should Cripps.

Blame the AFL and the tribunal for being incompetent idiots in the Rioli incident.

No doubt but the problem is that you see players rubbed out for much less. The match review and tribunal is chook lotto, you just never know what you’re going to get.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Bad decision, and should have appealed, but also different to Cripps.

The AFL don't really give a s**t about concussion, or they would be suspending on the action, rather than the outcome.
The current method is purely arse-covering to limit litigation. It's farcical.

But it is fundamental to the game to be able to contest the ball.
It was a shocking decision on Tuesday night, and tonight is good for the game.

Until its one of your players who gets concussed and misses a week

 

[Stamos]

Cripps did elect to bump. It is clearly shown in the vision. He barrelled into Ah Chee’s noggin and concussed him when he had every chance not to. It’s an awful, awful decision and the AFL has come out and said you’re allowed to take out a player’s head as long as the football is near

You need to have another look

 

[JustaBattler]

Cripps did elect to bump. It is clearly shown in the vision. He barrelled into Ah Chee’s noggin and concussed him when he had every chance not to. It’s an awful, awful decision and the AFL has come out and said you’re allowed to take out a player’s head as long as the football is near

Dun worry your mob will go in big favourites next week - save your feary tears for then...

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Will be the last thing Carlton win this year.

We didn't win.
It shouldn't have even gone this far.
Blame the afl if you are unhappy

 

[Stamos]

Until its one of your players who gets concussed and misses a week

Depends entirely on how it occurs.
Accidents happen in a contact sport.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Surprised the servers haven't crashed yet after the verdict

 

[harmesy 37]

So the conclusion is that you are still allowed one millisecond to make the decision to leap for the ball in a contest?

Or are you expected to get a notepad out onfield, take measurements, check the weight & height of all players around, their potential speed to get to the ball and then deliberate on whether to contest?

I see this as similar to the Rioli incident, the only difference is that the Brisbane player Ah Chee was smaller than Rowell.

Cripps, some will argue, should have been aware in one millisecond of his size.

If Cripps tucked his arm in and clearly “chose to bump” with the pointy part of his shoulder then the decision would have justified an infraction.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Cripps did elect to bump. It is clearly shown in the vision. He barrelled into Ah Chee’s noggin and concussed him when he had every chance not to. It’s an awful, awful decision and the AFL has come out and said you’re allowed to take out a player’s head as long as the football is near

Ok Michael Christian. We know your stance

 

[SplintWhisky]

Yet Ryder couldn't get his 2 game suspension overturned for this incident.




The inconsistency of the AFL tribunal is mindboggling.

This is ****ing wild. Based on this result that has come out, every team should be appealing to the highest degree. To me this, Cripps incident could be graded the same as the below



Cripps never put his arms up to contest the ball and turned his body for contact when he saw that he wasn't going to make it. Ah Chee gets flattened and a concussion. No idea how this one got off based on the other incidents this year.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Carlton have literally appealed multiple decisions that were just as suspect in the last few years and failed. The Plowman one was just as bad as the Cripps' one. If you elect to bump and get someone high its a reportable act - Cripps did not elect to bump. The reverse camera angle clearly shows him with his eyes on the ball and hands out. The AFL lawyer even admitted that Cripps was going for the ball - case should never have gone this far

He may have been going for the ball but players have a duty of care to not hit someone in the head whilst not touching the ball. Players have been suspended in the past for not tackling softly as they are bigger than the opponent

 

[Greggy]

New precedent here, head is open slather now, just make it look like you’re trying to mark a handball and you’ll be in the clear. Feel for Achee, no justice.