Yeah but McKay? Wouldn't even trade for him with a second rounder, if he wasn't an FA.
Pick 1 2023 Trade value - What would it take?
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Maybe I'm wrong but from memory this is how I felt about Chip Frawley as well?
How long ago was that though? The you have the massive contract Buddy went to Sydney on and only returned an end of first round pick.
Absolutely can't see the AFL giving out a start of first round pick for a FA anymore. It gimps all the other clubs at the bottom of the ladder.
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Taking the piss mate, with it all.
See above, I don't rate Magoo at all.
It won't be start of first round, it'll be a pick after their first pick of his contract earns North band 1 compensation (~$750-800k for 3+ years). They handed out two band 1 compensation picks in 2020.
Ah ok, seen a few other North supporters seriously peddling this though.
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oh we've gone a bit crackers due to what we've been witnessing.
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If Reid turns out being the player he is touted to be then the reasoning won’t save them from backlash no matter what they peddle.
I agree pick 1 is overrated in general but everything I have seen from Reid makes me think he is anything but overrated.
I think the hardest part of any rebuild is finding the generational talent to propel a team forward. I won’t claim to be the biggest draft expert at all but not sure I have seen many prospects as good as Reid in my time following footy. This is a year I think no club even West Coast should consider trading away that pick.
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As an Essendon supporter...a team with no superstars and a lot of b grade players wont get you far. You need to exceptional talent in a few list spots. Take Daicos out of the Pies, Cameron from Geelong, Petracca from Melbourne, prime Martin from the Tigers and none are exceptional teams IMO. That is the level of talent Reid projects. You need these guy to maximise reward for effort and build faith in systems.
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If im Eagles id do it for 4 first rounders, 2 2nd rounders and a player like Sam Taylor/Stephen Coniglio
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That generational player can be found from 2-10 almost as much as pick 1 and the more the tickets in the lotto, the higher chance you have of winning it. Appreciate Reid is just that far ahead of everyone else but basically every single year the number 1 pick is shown up by someone drafted after him. Even if you can break it up into two top 10 picks and Reid is better than both of them, I think you'd still have a massive chance that your team is better with the two players you draft than the 1.
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I don’t think you can look at it like that when we know the prospects personally. We aren’t just looking at numbers we are looking at actually players.
Also he doesn’t even have to be the best for it to be worth it. Picking him vs the field might be hard but you don’t get the field. He is as close to a sure thing prospect as you can get to be a high level AFL player, that can not be underrated.
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Eagles would look at a trade - Hawks no chance. Especially if the Eagles think Reid is any chance of being a flight risk.
Curtain from WA is a top 3 talent and a player Eagles would love.
If we had 3 what is the extra needed to drop to 1? If Ports pick is 10 it would get a conversation started. I would prefer 3 & 10 than 3 1st that are mid to late 1sts.
Curtain from WA is a top 3 talent and a player Eagles would love.
If we had 3 what is the extra needed to drop to 1? If Ports pick is 10 it would get a conversation started. I would prefer 3 & 10 than 3 1st that are mid to late 1sts.
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If WC finish last I'd accept 1 top 5 pick, 1 6-15 pick and a future first to a team considered to be shit in 2024
Adelaide weren’t offering North 3 top 10 picks. The only assured top 10 pick was pick 6 at the time of the trade. Again, it’s pretty easy to label a trade ‘insane’ with hindsight on your side. Adelaide could have drastically improved a year earlier and the third pick they were offering us was cancelled out with a pick going back Adelaide’s way.
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The Buddy pick was band 1. It all depends on where the club finishes. If Hawthorn had of finished last, they would have got pick 2 for Buddy. As ridiculous as it is, that’s how the system works.
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Reid looks good and different to your typical pick 1, but remember David Swallow who became the first player to win the Larke Medal at the Champs as an underage player and then came 4th in the VFL's Brownlow equivalent in his draft year, was super hyped and had the runs on the board to back it up, but in reality just proved to be a vanilla player, so I wouldn't go thinking that a player going as well as Reid is, is ever a guarantee to go on to become the game's best player.
Hard disagree with this.
IMHO the defining characteristic of these sides/eras was that they WEREN’T “one man teams”. Shut someone down and plenty of others are around to bob up.
Sydney shut Cameron out for most of the GF, we still kicked 20 goals.
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That bloody annoys me this 3 first rounders talk. It never happened and would have been pick 6 x2. If we had been keen to trade or had known the intentions we may have been able to secure a deal that was possible to ignore.
As it stands we got the players we wanted with 3 and 4 this year and still have a future first up our sleeve. We did ok. Yes I realise 3 wasn't associated with the Francis deal, but we used that to our advantage as well.
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If Hawthorn had pick 1 and we were offered two top 10 picks this year and a future first I would do the deal.
Considering the fact that we're rebuilding, that would equate to six first round draft picks over the space of three years.
Considering the fact that we're rebuilding, that would equate to six first round draft picks over the space of three years.
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No team in the competition is a one man team, it's all systems. The more special talents you have that can break other teams systems the more likely you are to win premierships.
Opposition have to put additional resources into stopping those players which allows others to shine. Stars are system makers and breakers. Say Cameron isnt there, Gary Rohan gets a harder match up in the quarter final and you lose that game. Or the entire season goes the way of the years pre 2021. The presence of star players makes others have smaller hills to climb in order to shine. The stars ability to convert one or two goals that no one else could have or break a tackle/kick through the pressure, is the difference between building confidence in a system or not.
Of course having two generational key forwards and Dangerfield matters. Regardless of grand final performances, you're not winning the flag with Wright and Weideman in the stead of Hawkins and Cameron and Parish instead of Dangerfield because you aren't even getting close to the grand final.
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They would get a lot more than that for reid. Pick 1 would cost way more than people think this year.
Which is part of the difficulty in doing a realistic deal
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