Player Watch Pick #16 (2016) - Todd Marshall

[Duckimus Prime]

How on earth is Contested marking stats from last season in the context of an argument questioning if Marshall is a kf cherry picking stats?

Do you understand what that phrase means?

How is it not cherry picking? You picked out a stat that you thought helped you...

You could've also included Daniher and Kennedy getting 4.8, 4.9 marks compared to Marshall's 4.1.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.9 and 2.3 goals per game compared to Marshall's 1.2.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.3 and 1.2 behinds per game compared to Marshall's 0.6

Daniher and Kennedy's 3.2 and 2.0 inside 50s compared to Marshall's 1.9.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.8 and 2.9 Marks inside 50 to Marshall's 1.6.
See these two combined are pretty daming to Marshall, he delivers the ball inside 50 as often as a guy mainly receives the ball inside 50. And he marks the ball inside 50 as often as a player that is normally kicking the ball into the forward 50...

Daniher and Kennedy's 6.5 and 5.9 score involvements compared to Marshall's 4.8.

But you know, he's got the same 1.1 contested marks as two guys who get on the lead and take uncontested marks. I mean that just indicates these players don't take contested marks.

 

[philthy05]

How is it not cherry picking? You picked out a stat that you thought helped you...

You could've also included Daniher and Kennedy getting 4.8, 4.9 marks compared to Marshall's 4.1.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.9 and 2.3 goals per game compared to Marshall's 1.2.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.3 and 1.2 behinds per game compared to Marshall's 0.6

Daniher and Kennedy's 3.2 and 2.0 inside 50s compared to Marshall's 1.9.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.8 and 2.9 Marks inside 50 to Marshall's 1.6.
See these two combined are pretty daming to Marshall, he delivers the ball inside 50 as often as a guy mainly receives the ball inside 50. And he marks the ball inside 50 as often as a player that is normally kicking the ball into the forward 50...

Daniher and Kennedy's 6.5 and 5.9 score involvements compared to Marshall's 4.8.

But you know, he's got the same 1.1 contested marks as two guys who get on the lead and take uncontested marks. I mean that just indicates these players don't take contested marks.

The context of the argument was that waspy was stating that Marshall is not a kf. It wasn’t a player v player debate.

I presented several facts to dispute waspys dumb ass claim ie the key forward he claims isn’t a key forward is kf height, plays the kf position, and his contested marking numbers compared to other key forwards last year.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

what a load of shit.

I don’t think I’ve ever advocated for dropping any kf and anyone on here that vaguely knows my posts would find the accusation that I called for Georgiades to be dropped to be bizarre.

Nearly every 2nd post I make mentions Georgiades is our future spearhead.

Your claim was about me making “Marshall over Mitch rants” and when challenged on the falsity of any such thing you’ve come up with a vague reference to me apparently (which sounds bizarre seeing as I’m literally known for advocating playing kfs) saying we should play Marshall over Mitch in finals?

When Georgdiades was injured late last year, you argued strongly in favour of Marshall staying in and keeping the superior Georgiades out. You posted the same inane rubbish like 'Todd Marshall picks his nose more than the best in the competition, therefore he's going to be a star' back then as you are now. I have never seen a worse player get as many chances as Marshall. He can't ruck, can't KPF, doesn't impact the contest, doesn't get alot of the ball. So What does he have - he's mobile, but doesn't impact any contest he gets to and has better than average skills (except in front of goal), but never gets a touch.

 

[philthy05]

When Georgdiades was injured late last year, you argued strongly in favour of Marshall staying in and keeping the superior Georgiades out. You posted the same inane rubbish like 'Todd Marshall picks his nose more than the best in the competition, therefore he's going to be a star' back then as you are now.

this is absolute rubbish that you have made up or misrepresented entirely.

And it doesn’t even match your story from before.

What is even the point of attacking me and making up shit?

Also at least try to make it somewhat believable lol.

 

[Brian McGee]

How is it not cherry picking? You picked out a stat that you thought helped you...

You could've also included Daniher and Kennedy getting 4.8, 4.9 marks compared to Marshall's 4.1.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.9 and 2.3 goals per game compared to Marshall's 1.2.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.3 and 1.2 behinds per game compared to Marshall's 0.6

Daniher and Kennedy's 3.2 and 2.0 inside 50s compared to Marshall's 1.9.
Daniher and Kennedy's 1.8 and 2.9 Marks inside 50 to Marshall's 1.6.
See these two combined are pretty daming to Marshall, he delivers the ball inside 50 as often as a guy mainly receives the ball inside 50. And he marks the ball inside 50 as often as a player that is normally kicking the ball into the forward 50...

Daniher and Kennedy's 6.5 and 5.9 score involvements compared to Marshall's 4.8.

But you know, he's got the same 1.1 contested marks as two guys who get on the lead and take uncontested marks. I mean that just indicates these players don't take contested marks.

Mate what these stats say is that last year Marshall is only marginally behind 2 of the premier kpf’s in the competition. Behind yes, but definitely not as bad as is being made out here. Hopefully he gets his shit together in the next couple of weeks because we desperately need him to!

 

[PrisonBars4life]

this is absolute rubbish that you have made up or misrepresented entirely.

And it doesn’t even match your story from before.

What is even the point of attacking me and making up shit?

Also at least try to make it somewhat believable lol.

• Nah
• It does, you're inferred whatever you wanted to - rants about Marshall over Mitch fits what was said.
• Nah
• who else here believes Philthy posted emotionally driven non-sense about not dropping his Love child and leaving Mitch out of the side? Lets see how 'unbelievable' it is.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

inb4 tHiS sHoUlD bE hIs BaSeLiNe

 

[JUSTWORK]

Much better effort tonight, his average game needs to be much closer to this than what we've got the last 2 weeks.

 

[philthy05]

Lol. Eat shit haters.





In all seriousness

That’s exactly what we’ve been telling you lot.

Bombing it on our kfs heads plays into the hands of our opponents and makes it near impossible for our kfs to get into the game.

we constantly ignore the leads of our kfs.

Cut to today and early in the game we were honouring those leads. Not that Marshall just Decided to start leading, he was doing the same thing last week, we just ignored him.

5 goals. Hopefully Todd can pick up and keep up some momentum even tho it’s going to be really hard for him to do so.

Next week will be near impossible.

If we go into the game against melb with just lycett Mitch and Todd it’s gonna be hard. Gawn will park himself across halfback and pick kicks off. May and lever are legit.

 

[backtozero]

Lol. Eat shit haters.





In all seriousness

That’s exactly what we’ve been telling you lot.

Bombing it on our kfs heads plays into the hands of our opponents and makes it near impossible for our kfs to get into the game.

we constantly ignore the leads of our kfs.

Cut to today and early in the game we were honouring those leads. Not that Marshall just Decided to start leading, he was doing the same thing last week, we just ignored him.

5 goals. Hopefully Todd can pick up and keep up some momentum even tho it’s going to be really hard for him to do so.

Next week will be near impossible.

If we go into the game against melb with just lycett Mitch and Todd it’s gonna be hard. Gawn will park himself across halfback and pick kicks off. May and lever are legit.

He played on a failed forward that couldn't get a game at Port and the Crows moved him to defence out of desperation and he will be delisted this year.
Keep your powder dry.

 

[Ralph Lorenz]

Marshall played on a glorified SANFL ruck-cum-defender and kicked 5.0
That's the story.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

inb4 tHiS sHoUlD bE hIs BaSeLiNe

How about string 3 games together before going the crow.

 

[JUSTWORK]

The test is to back this game up with a respectable game next week against Steven May

1

Steven May

Age

32

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

& the Melb defence.

 

[VineValerian]

The test is to back this game up with a respectable game next week against Steven May & the Melb defence.

Agree.
But good to see him FINALLY show something.
Credit where due.

 

[philthy05]

The test is to back this game up with a respectable game next week against Steven May & the Melb defence.

Dixon can barely pass against lever and may (3 goals across the Last 2 meetings) and that’s our senior star kf and that’s when we were playing pretty decent footy.


I’ll be amazed if the demons don’t smash us by 50-100 points next week. Dixon would likely do shit **** all if he was available.

If Mitch or Todd manage to impact the game at all they would have done very well.

 

[ClintEastwood]

How about string 3 games together before going the crow.

Or even 2.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Dixon can barely pass against lever and may (3 goals across the Last 2 meetings) and that’s our senior star kf and that’s when we were playing pretty decent footy.


I’ll be amazed if the demons don’t smash us by 50-100 points next week. Dixon would likely do shit fu** all if he was available.

If Mitch or Todd manage to impact the game at all they would have done very well.

Of course we are getting smashed, these two just need to make a contest. Compete, don't let May & Lever have a field day and take their opportunities.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

Dixon can barely pass against lever and may (3 goals across the Last 2 meetings) and that’s our senior star kf and that’s when we were playing pretty decent footy.


I’ll be amazed if the demons don’t smash us by 50-100 points next week. Dixon would likely do shit fu** all if he was available.

If Mitch or Todd manage to impact the game at all they would have done very well.

Right, so you go the crow when he kicks 5 on a failed 6th string forward, but it means nothing if he gets donuts on a good player. Good to see you're still posting rubbish. Georgiades and Dixon both kicked 2 last time we played them by the way.

 

[bomberclifford]

We just lost to the worst Crows team in history.
Now is not the time to gloat about Todd getting some form.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Well done Todd, responded well

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

It's the same with Bonner late last season.

Well done on stepping up when all your supporters wanted your head.

 

[philthy05]

Right, so you go the crow when he kicks 5 on a failed 6th string forward, but it means nothing if he gets donuts on a good player. Good to see you're still posting rubbish. Georgiades and Dixon both kicked 2 last time we played them by the way.

I said that it will be hard for Mitch and Todd in a game we are expecting to get smashed, and pointed out that Dixon, our senior star kf has notched up 3 goals in the last two meetings with melb while our team was performing much better than it is now

It’s not ****ing rocket science.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Well done Todd. competed well, lead well and kicked well for goal.

Lets seen that every 2nd or 3rd week, not once or twice a year,

 

[x_les_x]

Not to worry, he’ll go missing next week again

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

For a minute there I thought our team realised that Marshall is good as a lead up type forward with footy smarts and can lose his player easily.

Then we decided to bomb it long for 10 minutes in the last quarter to no effect.