Expansion PNG wants in the NRL by 2014

[Fire]

It may be a shambles and it has little chance of hosting a team, but is it really necessary to sink the boot in. If an Aboriginal kid is drafted from the Northern Territory, is it necessary to refer to all this problems in Northern Territory Aboriginal communities, or talk about the lack of TV sets out bush?

Sinkin the boot in?

I see no sunken boots.

If you want to glaze over a serious discussion and drown in a sea of positivity, then i reccomend you wander on over to LU.

 

[genghiskhan]

Sinkin the boot in?

I see no sunken boots.

If you want to glaze over a serious discussion and drown in a sea of positivity, then i reccomend you wander on over to LU.

There are clear and deliberate attempts to insult the country of PNG that go far beyond a serious discussion about whether it can host an NRL team. These same insults are not seen when discussing the ability of Darwin to host a AFL team, or when discussing whether it is worthwhile to have AFL development officers in Aboriginal communities. They are unnecessary.

 

[Ant_]

It may be a shambles and it has little chance of hosting a team, but is it really necessary to sink the boot in. If an Aboriginal kid is drafted from the Northern Territory, is it necessary to refer to all this problems in Northern Territory Aboriginal communities, or talk about the lack of TV sets out bush?

Difference is PNG is a cesspit of corruption that goes straight to the top. Police are easily bought off, machete attacks are a daily occurrence. Ten years ago the place was a lot better, the standard of living has been dropping there rapidly since Australia pulled out in 1975.

I'm not sticking the boot into NRL, just calling it as I see it with PNG. Hey if they plan to use the place as draft camp for youngsters all well and good. However a team has no chance in it's current political climate.

 

[Ant_]

There are clear and deliberate attempts to insult the country of PNG that go far beyond a serious discussion about whether it can host an NRL team. These same insults are not seen when discussing the ability of Darwin to host a AFL team, or when discussing whether it is worthwhile to have AFL development officers in Aboriginal communities. They are unnecessary.

The truth often hurts, PNG has lots of problems. Population is the only thing stopping Darwin from having a full time AFL team.

 

[littleduck]

Just love your cheekiness LD.

On one hand you go around spouting how Aussie Rules will never succeed outside of Australia.

Where did I say that?

On the other hand you turn around and poke fun at the AFL for not trying to globalise its brand.

Well most professional sports, including 3 of 4 football codes, in Australia are evolving from regional > national > Australasian competitions for sound economic reasons. It's fair to raise the point that AFL is an exception.

You really take the cake.

I like to eat it too.

 

[genghiskhan]

Difference is PNG is a cesspit of corruption that goes straight to the top. Police are easily bought off, machete attacks are a daily occurrence. Ten years ago the place was a lot better, the standard of living has been dropping there rapidly since Australia pulled out in 1975.

I'm not sticking the boot into NRL, just calling it as I see it with PNG. Hey if they plan to use the place as draft camp for youngsters all well and good. However a team has no chance in it's current political climate.

I don't care if you sink the boot in the NRL, and I wont argue with you in regards to PNG having problems and I agree that there is no chance of them hosting a NRL team. Just show a bit more tact here. If a kid is drafted from the Tiwi Islands, it really isn't necessary to focus on social problems in the Tiwi Islands or mock their lack of economic potential.

If PNG has dreams of a sporting team to unite their fractured country and provide role models for the youth, let them have their dreams. It is a step in the right direction.

 

[Ant_]

I don't care if you sink the boot in the NRL, and I wont argue with you in regards to PNG having problems and I agree that there is no chance of them hosting a NRL team. Just show a bit more tact here. If a kid is drafted from the Tiwi Islands, it really isn't necessary to focus on social problems in the Tiwi Islands or mock their lack of economic potential.

If PNG has dreams of a sporting team to unite their fractured country and provide role models for the youth, let them have their dreams. It is a step in the right direction.

O/P was touting a team in the NRL that is what I was disputing, nobody is saying Tiwi Islands could support an AFL team.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

It won't happen, so settle down kiddies.

More to the point, where is AFL going to expand in the next 20-50 years so as to get bigger TV deals? No where to go really. Maybe Colombia in Sth America, would suit the AFL culture, hey RUNVS

Wouldn't have problems with incentives for players.

AFL Expansion in the next 50 years:
- More teams in NSW, QLD.
- Less teams in Vic
- Another WA team.

Thats it I'd say. It is the AFL by the way. I cant see the point of spreading your comp thinly over a wide area. NZ would be the only country close enough, and even then WA to NZ is a fair hike.

 

[RUNVS]

AFL Expansion in the next 50 years:
- More teams in NSW, QLD.
- Less teams in Vic
- Another WA team.

Thats it I'd say. It is the AFL by the way. I cant see the point of spreading your comp thinly over a wide area. NZ would be the only country close enough, and even then WA to NZ is a fair hike.

The correct term is "Fewer teams in Vic"

Less means that there are the same number of teams in Victoria but each team is smaller while fewer means what you intended to say.

 

[AngelEyes]

Well most professional sports, including 3 of 4 football codes, in Australia are evolving from regional > national > Australasian competitions for sound economic reasons. It's fair to raise the point that AFL is an exception.

You forgot to tell the NRL they have to do the national part before the Australasian part. Last year, AFL premiership games were played in every state and territory of Australia.

The only thing national about the NRL is it's name besides that NRL is not national in any sense of the word.

Go play retreat to PNG. I'm sure after the AFL smashes the backside off the NRL in Western Sydney and the Gold Coast that the AFL will go after PNG with it's bucket loads of money and better product. I'd be very scared if I were the NRL.

The next phase of the expansion plan will be to take on Rugby in PNG, New Zealand and South Africa. Oh, I forgot the AFL is already planting the seeds and it will be a success albeit over a long period of time.

The difference between the two codes is the AFL can bankroll it's plans for expansion, the NRL struggles to keep the fair majority of its club's alive.

 

[Ancient and Loyal]

You forgot to tell the NRL they have to do the national part before the Australasian part. Last year, AFL premiership games were played in every state and territory of Australia.

Shame that an area with the population of WA (Northern NSW) saw no games then hey?

North QLD has as many people as Tasmania and also missed out...

 

[littleduck]

You forgot to tell the NRL they have to do the national part before the Australasian part.

Why?

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Why?

Because they are the National Rugby League, yet have as much or more teams in another country than they do in the majority of australian states and territories. If a team is added to PNG the NRL should just change its name to the South Pacific Rugby League or the International Rugby League.

The AFL has at least 1 team in each mainland state and most likely if Tasmania and Darwin had larger population there would be teams there as well.

 

[Mingo]

You forgot to tell the NRL they have to do the national part before the Australasian part.

They tried. They failed Can't get it outside those two measly states.

 

[Ancient and Loyal]

They tried. They failed Can't get it outside those two measly states.

You mean those two measly states with the lions share of Australia's population and growth? And Melbourne?

 

[Aucklander]

Because they are the National Rugby League

Now IIRC, the official name is actually the National Rugby League "Partnership"

The Warriors at the time of the coming together of the two comps were part of Super League, hence their admittance to the NRL.

 

[Aucklander]

You mean those two measly states with the lions share of Australia's population and growth? And Melbourne?

Ouch.

 

[genghiskhan]

They tried. They failed Can't get it outside those two measly states.

Three states, a territory, and a second country. Five regions all up. The same as the AFL. Next question, do more people live in the NRL's five regions or the AFL's?

Anyway, that would only matter from a commericial point of view, and considering that the AFL refuses to allow a team from Tasmania, it is quite clear it is driven by commercial rather than symbolic motivations.

 

[1908]

They tried. They failed Can't get it outside those two measly states.

Really?

Here is the WA Reds squad for 2008, on my count I make that 3 states.

Jason Godecke Born in WA - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at North Beach

Ryan Dickson Born in NZ - Grew up in Perth, played all junior (under 7-18's) football in Perth at North Beach

Tyrone Coppedge Born in WA - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at Fremantle and Willagee

Zac Keating Born in ACT - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at North Beach

Craig Phillis Born ACT - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at North Beach

James McGowan Born WA - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at North Beach and Joondalup

Ben Lindegaard Born WA - Went from Rugby Union to League at Under 10's played at North Beach and South Perth

Jon Phipps Born ACT - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at Applecross and played at South Perth as a
senior.

Isaac Thomas Born WA - Played all junior (under 7'18's) in Perth at Belmont and played at South Perth as a senior

Stephen Gherardi Born in SA - Played all junior (under 7-18's) in Perth at Canning and played at South Perth as a senior

Taurean Sheehan Born in WA - Played all junior (under 7's-18's) in Perth at Joondalup

Pikari Te Wara Born NZ - Has played in WA for the last 4 years for South Perth

Michael Kestel Born NSW - Has played in WA for the last 7 years at North Beach

James Blake Born NZ - Has played in WA for the last 6 years at North Beach

Joshua Irving Born WA - Has played as a junior in WA from under 7's-15's, has spent the last 4 years in NSW

Ben McCrone Born NSW - Has played in WA for the last 2 years at South Perth

Caleb McEniery Born QLD - Played in Perth in 2006 and returned to join the Reds

Shayne McMenemy Imported from Super League in UK and has played at NRL level

Nathan Searle Born NSW - Played in Penrith - Came to Perth in 2007 to join the Reds

Michael Small Born NSW - Played in Newcastle - Came to Perth in 2007 to join the Reds

Roddy Tahu Born NZ - Played in Melbourne - Came to Perth in 2007 to join the Reds

Heath Egglestone Born QLD - Played QLD Cup - Came to Perth in 2008 to join the Reds

Joel Rawlins Born WA - Played as a junior in Perth for South Perth, relocated to Newcastle and returned to Perth in 2007 to join the WA Reds

Sio Mailangi Born Tonga - Came to Perth in 2007 and played for Fremantle and was in the WA State Team Squad, has returned from a knee injury to join the Reds.

I think that is everyone, hope it makes it clearer for you, if you need
anything else please email.

Lucy Keating
Western Australian Rugby League

Members Equity Stadium
310 Pier Street
Perth WA 6000

PO Box 8650
Perth BC WA 6849
Phone: (08) 9228 9275
Fax: (08) 9228 9215

 

[Rob]

Really?

Here is the WA Reds squad for 2008, on my count I make that 3 states.

That's hilarious - you mean to say that they joined a 3rd tier league and still had to import a lot of players just to be competitive?
Meanwhile, 50 Queenslanders are running around playing AFL.

 

[RUNVS]

Really?

Here is the WA Reds squad for 2008, on my count I make that 3 states.

But how many of those players would cut in in the NRL?

 

[Inferno]

Surely the NRL are kidding. Port Moresby has been rated a worse place to live then Baghdad, the majority of the population are in poverty, the crime rate is off the charts and there is next to no money there.

And this will benefit their game how?

You are all overlooking my qualification in the original post in relation to a professional football team growing off the back of sustained economic growth in PNG.

With some good solid economic growth in PNG, RL is best placed of all codes/sports to go along for the economic ride.

Without some good solid economic growth in PNG, all your posts above ridiculing the idea are justified.

lol, good solid economic growth? it will take decades, possibly centuries of 'good solid economic growth' for PNG to be a safe place to live let alone be a viable place for an NRL team.

PNG's population is forecast to grow to 10 million by 2029.

And most of them will be in poverty, and almost none them are going to be able to get to NRL games in Port Moresby anyway.

 

[1908]

I here Pakistan, Bangladesh ad India aren't the best place to live either doesn't stop our cricketers going there does it?

 

[1908]

You all can stop, an NRL team will not be in PNG just as an AFL team will not be in Hobart or Darwin.

 

[Azzballz Deluxe]

I here Pakistan, Bangladesh ad India aren't the best place to live either doesn't stop our cricketers going there does it?

Hahaha, good one!


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