Strategy POLL: Who would you take at pick 6 in the 2013 draft?

[Crazy Tails]

I'm on the Aish bandwagon too and he got my vote. Just like the cut of his jib and has a bit of swagger about him. Can just see Grundy dishing it up to him on a platter in the guts for years to come.

May be in the minority here but Billings is the one I hope we pass up if he's there. Not sure what it is about him but I hope we look elsewhere. Had the same feeling about Taylor Garner last year so I wasn't unhappy when the Roos took him before us.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

More midfielder s the better IMO. Especially now with the cap and increased intensity. Reckon a lot could slot down the forward pockets for a rest and be effective at crumbing.

Won't hurt as much either in terms of team balance if we yet again get one of our a grade mifielders out for the year again.

 

[Paddywhackers]

If Billings somehow slipped through, oh boy, we will be laughing all the way to the bank!

Boom Boom Tish!

 

[Paddywhackers]

I want Kolodjashnij just cause he has the coolest name, I might sound like some 12yo girl at the hoarse races, I might sound like some 12yo girl there, but it's a cool name.

 

[dunno4]

Anyone but Kolodjashnij.

Our record with Tasmanians with early picks is just sooooooooo good.
Danny Roach Pick 7, 1 game
Luke Shackleton Pick 29, 1 game
Billy Morrison Pick 17, 0 games

 

[wednesdaywarrior]

I wonder if some of the guys who look very Hollywood during a pretty free flowing TAC comp will still have their silky smooth skills at VFL/AFL level. Which is perhaps why the recruiters now seem to place a premium on exposed form at senior level. I'm not sure who really stacks up in this department. Aish has apparently had good senior experience (despite his patchy highlights).

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

If it's speed it's Freeman and Taylor

If it's need it's Scharenberg and Lennon

If it's quality it's Aish and Crouch

If it's grunt it's Salem and Acres

If it's size it's Bontempelli

I'd probably die of dehydration due to excessive ejaculation if that happened.

 

[Jonno94]

I've seen whispers of Freeman at 6 and Salem at 10, doesn't excite me like Scharenberg and Lennon/Bontempelli but you'd back Hine in every time.. that kid Salem is a viscous tackling machine by all accounts, he uses it as a weapon.. Bucks would love that

The only sub 185cm player we should consider is Aish.

6 - Bontempelli or Aish
10 - Lennon or Acres

Easy.

 

[CoreyBurnett1]

6 - Aish or Bontempelli
10 - Salem or McCarthy

 

[Scodog10]

From the comments of Paine's manager (Connors) on SEN this morning he is gone. To fill in those that didn't hear the interview Connors stated that he spoke to Paine on Tuesday about there being a 2% chance of him going. As of today that has gone full circle and he is now a 2% chance of staying.

McCarthy has therefore shot up the draft board in my mind. Once the deal for Paine goes through we leave ourselves with only Gault as a KPF at VFL level with both Paine and Richmond moved on (depending on how Lynch is used in 2014). 10 is the more likely selection for McCarthy.

Bontempelli for mine now projects as a very interesting option at 6. The positive is his late birth which means that he still has significant scope compared to others at the top end in the draft pool. For instance he's almost a year younger than a Kelly or Sheed which at that age can prove a large difference especially with those rangier types. Acres is in a very similar boat and I'm really starting to warm to one of them at 6 to compliment McCarthy at 10.

 

[the distributer]

From the comments of Paine's manager (Connors) on SEN this morning he is gone. To fill in those that didn't hear the interview Connors stated that he spoke to Paine on Tuesday about there being a 2% chance of him going. As of today that has gone full circle and he is now a 2% chance of staying.

McCarthy has therefore shot up the draft board in my mind. Once the deal for Paine goes through we leave ourselves with only Gault as a KPF at VFL level with both Paine and Richmond moved on (depending on how Lynch is used in 2014). 10 is the more likely selection for McCarthy.

Bontempelli for mine now projects as a very interesting option at 6. The positive is his late birth which means that he still has significant scope compared to others at the top end in the draft pool. For instance he's almost a year younger than a Kelly or Sheed which at that age can prove a large difference especially with those rangier types. Acres is in a very similar boat and I'm really starting to warm to one of them at 6 to compliment McCarthy at 10.

I think we were always going to take McCarthy if he was available at 10, just for team balance.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

McCarthy has therefore shot up the draft board in my mind. Once the deal for Paine goes through we leave ourselves with only Gault as a KPF at VFL level with both Paine and Richmond moved on (depending on how Lynch is used in 2014). 10 is the more likely selection for McCarthy.

You're forgetting that Patrick Karnezis is also a tall forward - We're not going to be dumb enough to play him on a wing/HBF like Vossy was. He might not be a burly contested marking type, but he can provide depth in that area.

Also, Lynch is a pretty strong possibility to be playing much of the year in the VFL, and also Darcy Moore, who we're going to want having unobstructed opportunity to play as a key forward in our VFL side.

We can also play Frost and swing one of our defenders forward, be it Reid or Keeffe.

Add that to the fact that the KP crop next year is meant to be bumper, and it doesn't make sense to make a knee-jerk move with such a valuable draft pick.

I actually like McCarthy, but not enough to prefer him to the likes of Lennon/Acres/another tall running type at #10.

 

[the distributer]

You're forgetting that Patrick Karnezis is also a tall forward - We're not going to be dumb enough to play him on a wing/HBF like Vossy was. He might not be a burly contested marking type, but he can provide depth in that area.

Also, Lynch is a pretty strong possibility to be playing much of the year in the VFL, and also Darcy Moore, who we're going to want having unobstructed opportunity to play as a key forward in our VFL side.

We can also play Frost and swing one of our defenders forward, be it Reid or Keeffe.

Add that to the fact that the KP crop next year is meant to be bumper, and it doesn't make sense to make a knee-jerk move with such a valuable draft pick.

I actually like McCarthy, but not enough to prefer him to the likes of Lennon/Acres/another tall running type at #10.

I don't think it matters how strong next years KP crop will be, we're likely to finish top 6 (4 hopefully) so anyone decent will be gone by our pick, and if it is a strong draft it'll be hard to trade up into it.

We've taken enough mids-runners over the last 2 years, we did well getting a ruckman last year and now we need a KF.

 

[NT.Thunder]

I don't think it matters how strong next years KP crop will be, we're likely to finish top 6 (4 hopefully) so anyone decent will be gone by our pick, and if it is a strong draft it'll be hard to trade up into it.

We've taken enough mids-runners over the last 2 years, we did well getting a ruckman last year and now we need a KF.

Maybe, but if we continue to blood young guys with AFL experience we put ourselves in a good position to determine who's surplus to our needs that may be of interest to clubs llike GWS, Melb, GC looking for mature bodies and on field leaders.

Hine will manage to trade us into contention.

 

[the distributer]

Maybe, but if we continue to blood young guys with AFL experience we put ourselves in a good position to determine who's surplus to our needs that may be of interest to clubs llike GWS, Melb, GC looking for mature bodies and on field leaders.

Hine will manage to trade us into contention.

This years draft would have been very strong for KFs if it wasn't compromised, Hogan-Boyd-McCarthy all would have gone top 15 with the former 2 going top 3, its not often that happens.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

You're forgetting that Patrick Karnezis is also a tall forward - We're not going to be dumb enough to play him on a wing/HBF like Vossy was. He might not be a burly contested marking type, but he can provide depth in that area.

Also, Lynch is a pretty strong possibility to be playing much of the year in the VFL, and also Darcy Moore, who we're going to want having unobstructed opportunity to play as a key forward in our VFL side.

We can also play Frost and swing one of our defenders forward, be it Reid or Keeffe.

Add that to the fact that the KP crop next year is meant to be bumper, and it doesn't make sense to make a knee-jerk move with such a valuable draft pick.

I actually like McCarthy, but not enough to prefer him to the likes of Lennon/Acres/another tall running type at #10.

And we did try Gault forward a couple of times, maybe its worth persisting with that now.
In addition there is no reason why we can't try a couple of VFL players to see if they have any potential.
Was one of them named Bolton (???) who played a couple of really good games until he got injured.
Let's use the VFL to develop some of these guys this year and go for a tall(s) in next years draft

 

[Scodog10]

You're forgetting that Patrick Karnezis is also a tall forward - We're not going to be dumb enough to play him on a wing/HBF like Vossy was. He might not be a burly contested marking type, but he can provide depth in that area.

Also, Lynch is a pretty strong possibility to be playing much of the year in the VFL, and also Darcy Moore, who we're going to want having unobstructed opportunity to play as a key forward in our VFL side.

We can also play Frost and swing one of our defenders forward, be it Reid or Keeffe.

Add that to the fact that the KP crop next year is meant to be bumper, and it doesn't make sense to make a knee-jerk move with such a valuable draft pick.

I actually like McCarthy, but not enough to prefer him to the likes of Lennon/Acres/another tall running type at #10.

I tend to agree with Distributers view on this in that the quality will likely be gone by the time we enter the draft in 2014 and McCarthy at 10 is by no means a stretch even when compared to the likes of Acres, Lennon and KK.

He is very strong through the legs, has a good leap, is good at ground level, is a beautiful set shot, has size and hits the scoreboard. TBH even if we took him at 6 I wouldn't bat an eyelid in much the same vein as Reid at 8 in 06.

I'd also be happy with Acres at 6 so again I wouldn't hesitate with him at 10, but both Lennon and KK have their faults that I think some are overlooking.

As for Karnezis as a KPP it's a no for me a) I don't really rate that much anyway to provide any sort of impact in that role and b) he's, IMO, more suited to that roaming HF/ third tall role if he makes where he can take smalls to the goal square and beat a tall on the spread. I had forgotten about Moore in 2014, but it will be Lynch's last year with us so I'd like another KPP coming up from underneath.

At the end of the day I'd rather have one too many quality KPF's than one too few...

 

[Old Spice]

Interesting discussion but I think we may be able to trade up next year if needs be. We have a young team so that may mean we have less stock to trade out, however on the plus side of the ledger, teams like Melbourne, GWS, Sydney, WC and Essendon will not really be going for KPF you would think.

What of our stocks? Cloke is a lock and while we have Brown, Keeffe and Frost I think we can keep Reid forward. White is a handy foil too. On Moore that is purely speculative at this point. Lynch will be gone by 2015.

I know we publicly have a policy of ticking off names, but it's conceivable there are some variations. Say for example we got Scharenberg by some miracle, or a Koolmints, then that means Reid could be locked in as a permanent forward. At 10 then you'd definitely not be going for a McCarthy. If we got Bontempelli at 6 then maybe they do roll the dice on McCarthy. Very hard to know but an interesting topic.

 

[Couch Coach]

Pick 6 - Scharenberg is the one I want to slide
Pick 10 - Been on the Salem bandwagon for a while but would be happy with Bontempelli, Freeman, Acres, Taylor or Hartung.

For me I'm not a fan of Lennon or McCarthy at our picks.

 

[CoreyBurnett1]

The problem I have with KPF in this years draft is they aren't going up against the best back men?

 

[motr]

Hine has already done the hard work. The way I see it is that, excluding Boyd and McDonald, Hine has 8 players he'd be happy to draft with our top 2 picks.

 

[motr]

Hine has already done the hard work. The way I see it is that, excluding Boyd and McDonald, Hine has 8 players he'd be happy to draft with our top 2 picks.

We've paid a decent price for it, but relative to every club outside of GWS, we should gain a significant advantage from this draft.

 

[motr]

Anyone but Kolodjashnij.

Our record with Tasmanians with early picks is just sooooooooo good.
Danny Roach Pick 7, 1 game
Luke Shackleton Pick 29, 1 game
Billy Morrison Pick 17, 0 games

Graham Wright says hello

 

[wednesdaywarrior]

Interesting discussion but I think we may be able to trade up next year if needs be. We have a young team so that may mean we have less stock to trade out, however on the plus side of the ledger, teams like Melbourne, GWS, Sydney, WC and Essendon will not really be going for KPF you would think.

What of our stocks? Cloke is a lock and while we have Brown, Keeffe and Frost I think we can keep Reid forward. White is a handy foil too. On Moore that is purely speculative at this point. Lynch will be gone by 2015.

I know we publicly have a policy of ticking off names, but it's conceivable there are some variations. Say for example we got Scharenberg by some miracle, or a Koolmints, then that means Reid could be locked in as a permanent forward. At 10 then you'd definitely not be going for a McCarthy. If we got Bontempelli at 6 then maybe they do roll the dice on McCarthy. Very hard to know but an interesting topic.

As far as next years draft, let's remember that we never thought in our wildest dreams we'd be a chance for Grundy and somehow this year we are realistically discussing Aish. Two rated top 3 talents. A lot can happen even when you finish high up - more refugee Rat Packers or Rat Pack sympathisers being traded out, picks being upgraded, Carlton poaching their next instalment from our list, all sorts of shifting and shuffling can occur, heck we could finish outside the 8 if everything went really badly (!) one thing I'm now confident in is Hines cunning in somehow positioning us where he wants to be. It's hard not to love the guy.

 

[SpongePie]

I am a fair noob when it comes to the draft, however I was reading some threads from pre '05 draft and all the talk was us getting Xavier Ellis. I'm not sure why, but the talk for getting Aish seems in a similar vein.
Obviously fingers crossed that if we do get Aish it all works out and we don't get a Xavier Ellis II... but just feels a little similar.

Personally I'm hoping for Scharenberg as I think he is what we need at the moment. I think we have a solid "lock down" type back line... but with Shaw gone, perhaps we need a player like Scharenberg.

If we walked away with Scharenberg and Bontempelli I would call that a win.