News Port Adelaide announces co-captains - Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas

[PowerBaz]

Maybe the fact the supporter base is peeved will inspire them to prove all the supporters wrong and win a flag. In many ways the decision falls on the players too.

 

[manureid]

I’d imagine it won’t just be the El Scorcho banner at Adelaide Oval, that’s if anyone is still going by round 23.

New banner idea...

1 Captain
No Coach

 

[Smithy7]

Nothing like Crow supporters saying welcome to being a franchise club...

Crows are a franchise Club and their supporters cant stand the fact that Port was formed in 1870 and in 2020 Port will be celebrating their 150 years birthday.

 

[VineValerian]

See Wanganeen in today's paper endorses the co-captains.

So much for him being the members' selection!
Got the gig, now ****ing on the members who elected him

 

[edgie]

Why not? The number 1 is the only relevant tradition.



You can also pick out the people who are still wetting their bed. The poor onfield leadership we've had for years is a far bigger blow to what it means to be Port Adelaide than co-captains will ever be, and the club clearly see this as a way to solve it. I've been incredibly critical of club leadership in the Koch era but at least now we're trying something.

I still haven't seen a valid argument against co-captains apart from "tradition". I've never once read or heard that having a solo captain is a tradition of our club until this discussion came up. Can anyone point to some evidence of our club stressing the importance of a solo captain throughout our history?

So we appoint two of the biggest culprits of bad leadership? Double the fail?

Ollie can spray them everywhere while Jonas points out mismatches for someone else to fix?

The club has never had to stress it before because you don't need to stress what is already understood. Kinda like how KT now stresses how important winning is out of the blue.

 

[edgie]

lol how ****** is this. God I hope we play good football. We need it just as much as we did in 2011 and 2012. We're approaching a supporter engagement cliff that could send PAFC into another tailspin.

Please deliver.

Silver linings if we don't, i'd love to see Koch, Ken and KT squirm.

Not true, we went in to 2012 with some optimism of improvement on and off field.

 

[Doctor Feel]

See Wanganeen in today's paper endorses the co-captains.

So much for him being the members' selection!
Got the gig, now ****ing on the members who elected him

Like that was ever not going to be the case. ****ing plant.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Calling Cahill, Tredrea, Timmy G et. al. External noise is absolutely infuriating. This isn't the club I grew up with, there is no resemblance.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

If this has already been posted, I apologise, but John Cahill put it on Hinkley that our people are going to expect this to work and get us more success. And I know we wont buy the it takes time to be successful BS.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor...b/news-story/50ae9320fb4c56c03344e05568968c38

Cahill suggested Port’s decision to end a 149-year club tradition of naming one captain had put greater pressure on the team to perform.

“It’s Ken (coach Ken Hinkley) and the (other) coaches who wanted this, they say it will be a real plus, an advantage to have two captains,’’ he said.

“By saying that we are going to be a better team then our supporters should expect a very successful season, shouldn’t we?’’

“We’re a one captain club, that’s our history, with the captain generally wearing the No. 1 guernsey, it’s a point of difference we have.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

See Wanganeen in today's paper endorses the co-captains.

So much for him being the members' selection!
Got the gig, now ****ing on the members who elected him

TBH, I would be disappointed with Gav if he didn’t say that in public. It is one thing to voice your opinion at a Board meeting but whether you voted for, or against, the final outcome you should always show support for it outside those four walls.

 

[tribey]

Kinda like how KT now stresses how important winning is out of the blue.

Lol. At least they’ve been handed the summary to the last couple of surveys.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Maybe we can push for co-coaches. Hinkley & Schofield.

Schofield to take more responsibility while Ken... can well err.. sit there eating fish n chips.

 

[Janus]

This is the part where Michael Burry restricted withdrawals from Scion Capital and all the investors lost their shit.

 

[Smithy7]

Maybe we can push for co-coaches. Hinkley & Schofield.

Schofield to take more responsibility while Ken... can well err.. sit there eating fish n chips.

Have been told there is a good fish n chip shop at Semaphore ...

 

[OneGreatClub]

Crows are a franchise Club and their supporters cant stand the fact that Port was formed in 1870 and in 2020 Port will be celebrating their 150 years birthday.

Yeah and that 149 year history has been the most trending thing in the media. Suck it up Crows.

 

[Harlott]

Timmy G said on the radio this morning that although he's made his feelings known he said that it's important now that Wines, Jonas and Hartlett know that all supporters are behind them now. I guess we'll see.

 

[edgie]

It's such a tough one to me.

The problem isn't with the players, it is with the admin that made the decision... or is it? Should the individuals in question have spoken up and realised they are taking part in a very unpopular thing? Is it too much to expect the elected leadership, custodians of the club, to sit down and decide for themselves there should be only one captain?

 

[Far Kern]

See Wanganeen in today's paper endorses the co-captains.

So much for him being the members' selection!
Got the gig, now ****ing on the members who elected him

This was always an incredibly bad idea for this very reason.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This is the part where Michael Burry restricted withdrawals from Scion Capital and all the investors lost their shit.

We dont have a Michael Burry who knows complex shit to the nth degree, like the good doctor did back in 2005-2008 years.

 

[Lagooner]

“By saying that we are going to be a better team then our supporters should expect a very successful season, shouldn’t we?’’

I love this so much. It’s like the anti-statement to all that “you can’t expect to win all the time this isn’t the SANFL” garbage that gets routinely trotted out to lower expectations and excuse mediocrity.

 

[Ilias M]

See Wanganeen in today's paper endorses the co-captains.

So much for him being the members' selection!
Got the gig, now ****ing on the members who elected him

All part of the plan Koch got Gav to run against George to have more yes people to toe the line. No way would of George accepted.

Give up one part of your tradition expect more

 

[PJ Power]

Our on-field leadership has been in decline since 2014. Boak played the odd inspirational game over the past few seasons, but was hardly the exemplar of leading by example when the team most needed him.

At least with co-captains there is a numerical doubling of the likelihood that our captain actually stands up when the team needs him . I’m trying to find positives in this.

 

[drcollossimo]

Lol. At least they’ve been handed the summary to the last couple of surveys.

In 2018 we had a list in the top 4 based on champion data, we finished 10th ....

Sure glad they had the survey data to let them know we weren’t winning enough !

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

In 2018 we had a list in the top 4 based on champion data, we finished 10th ....

Sure glad they had the survey data to let them know we weren’t winning enough !

Champion Data didn't stratify (spel) the data.

In 2017 we racked up brilliant numbers against the cellar dwellings which we had an average win margin of 70 pts and around 250% against them for 8 wins an 0 loses, good to very good numbers against the middle class sides and average against the top 4 sides, so the end result looked like above average to elite at the start of 2018. Those Port CD rated elite players and above average players, couldn't play elite football against their elite opponents in 2018.

 

[edgie]

Calling Cahill, Tredrea, Timmy G et. al. External noise is absolutely infuriating. This isn't the club I grew up with, there is no resemblance.

To think Tredders went in to bat for the club over Wingard and this is how he is repaid the moment he doesn't agree with something they do.

That's the biggest indictment on the current people. They could have respectfully acknowledged his opinion but declared faith in their decision, instead he is labelled on par with a nobody.


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