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Scandal Port Adelaide Player SPP Charged With Inappropriate Contact
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Arthur Dunger
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20yr old getting drunk, how horrible.
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I know Kane, someone else's fault right
Arthur Dunger
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Huh?
But that was still contrived. Vlad tried to pin it all on Hird and his cohorts and paint the players as unknowing innocents. Had Caro pushing that line for them. Then the independent report comes out and turns the AFL's bullshit on its head. No different to when your mate sacked Rendell over his 'racist' comments 6 months prior. After Rendell explained the context and convo and everyone knew it a political event, there was Caro saying that, "if you knew what I knew then you'd want him sacked too". Yeh, so where did that knowledge come from? This is how they operate. There's nothing about this kid that I like. He's a super bogan, highly overrated and has suspect manners. And if he's sexually assaulted someone then I want him to be punished heavily. But if there's a mis-match between Port's and the AFL's investigation, then I demand that the latter open up their books. There is not a stitch of evidence that suggests they can be trusted on any matter.
Weekly event for a binge drinker like myself. I don't remember getting home 9/10 Fridays. If I've put a hole in my manners I apologise and hope that I'm forgiven. But I never remember what I did, but on the balance of probabilities it's hard to argue against.
jenny61_99
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It was contrived only in the way the AFL tried to manage the situation. The problem with Essendon was that they HAD ****ed up badly, but no one was acknowledging that, rather using the courts to try to get off on a technicality. Don’t get me wrong, I think the AFL must give the full report to the Club and SPP - you can’t possibly find someone guilty and not tell them why.
If the AFL, as some here suggest, is trying to protect itself, wouldn't it be more convenient for them to just say " We have looked at the evidence and find that the player did act inappropriately. We believe that the penalty that the player has already been subjected to (i.e. 2 Week ban) is appropriate. No further action will be taken".
The above would have been the best thing for both the AFL and Port Adelaide. The mere fact that the AFL wants a bigger penalty tells me that there is a lot more to it. The fact that they are reluctant to give the full evidence to the club, tells me that there's more to it than what the club itself believes.
What if, the AFL gives the club all the evidence and the club then accepts the penalty? Do you think the media will not demand that all the evidence was made public? What would be the innuendos if the request for it to be made public is denied?
I believe the PAFC is being, at the very least, "very naive" in escalating this problem.
The above would have been the best thing for both the AFL and Port Adelaide. The mere fact that the AFL wants a bigger penalty tells me that there is a lot more to it. The fact that they are reluctant to give the full evidence to the club, tells me that there's more to it than what the club itself believes.
What if, the AFL gives the club all the evidence and the club then accepts the penalty? Do you think the media will not demand that all the evidence was made public? What would be the innuendos if the request for it to be made public is denied?
I believe the PAFC is being, at the very least, "very naive" in escalating this problem.
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A lot of this post makes no sense.
If there was more to the story surely the AFL would release that to the club so it could be fully understood and the club can deal with the player appropriately. What good does it do anyone to keep the evidence from Port? The only "good" not releasing the evidence does is to obfuscate the issue for the club and wider public. Refusing to release the "evidence" only makes me think they have nothing and were hoping for Port and Powell-Pepper to roll over and take it.
I believe the only naive thinking here is someone that believes the AFL are withholding evidence for the good of the Port Adelaide Football Club and Sam Powell-Pepper.
You are surely joking?
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I believe the only naive thinking here is someone that believes the AFL are withholding evidence for the good of the Port Adelaide Football Club and Sam Powell-Pepper.
I am very thankful that you are not one of my mates.
No, it was contrived in the way that the AFL wanted the players to be cleared whilst laying full blame at the feet of the Hird et al. This was the continual propaganda that emanated from from AFL House. Go through my posting history on the matter, I was fooled. Onky after the ASADA appeal did i realise how complicit were the players. But you're right with your last sentence and whilst the AFL continue to not disclose their evidence, then that is the only topic worthy of discussion.
An honest person, for a change.
You know it was a good time, when someone tells you...also wake up with a cold pizza on your chest.....a woman ringing you asking are we still going to meet tonight....My response, WTF.......
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I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it's in everyone's best I interests to wrap this saga up asap, yet it's still being dragged out. The AFL must release the full details of the report to PAFC & let's close this matter. Dragging it out with legals will only make matters worse & continue the speculation which the media thrives on.
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Agree.
I'll pre-empt this by saying I have no idea what actually happened other than what I have seen on TV.
There is clearly something to investigate and the AFL should take as much time and be as thorough as necessary to get all the facts.
Once the report is written, it MUST be shared with SPP. This is not Bali or North Korea.
The AFL can hand down whatever sanctions they feel necessary but SPP gas right to appeal.
The whole hush hush secret squirrel business is unacceptable. Even if Port think the penalty is a bit harsh, cop your whack and move on, after all, SPP is the perpetrator not the victim.
If it's orders of magnitude harsh, there's an appeals process they can go through.
Communication is what is missing by the sound of it. If the AFL think it's going to take 2 weeks, tell Port and expectations are managed. Whether he plays or not in the meantime is up to Port/AFL. I'm sure he is stressed/anxious/depressed but sometimes you reap what you sow
Kane McGoodwin
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Don't think it will ever be publicly known the extent of the inappropriately touching of the woman. Bad enough for her to complain to the club, but not bad enough to want to bring in the police. Hopefully SPP has learnt his lesson.
Main thing is this saga has been finally resolved, so all parties can move on & the speculation can end. Hopefully the AFL don't take as long next time.
Legal action against 7 Adelaide and Elspef Hussey is a certain possibility with the language coming from the club recently.
dogs105
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Well that might bring out facts, so it seems unlikely that it will happen. I hope it does.
dogs105
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Should the title be changed to "SPP admits to inappropriate touching of a woman" now rather than "sexual assault claim"?
Kane McGoodwin
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That would be the most stupid idea as it would force the details of the AFL report to be made public, which is only going to make matters worse for SPP...
Arthur Dunger
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The media created the speculation by making up crap to meet their agenda. This will just continue as they are absolute bottom feeders at channel 7.
Kane McGoodwin
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Surely the main lesson to be learnt is that if you are in the public domain, don't go out drunk after midnight & behave inappropriately... then the media won't have anything controversial to talk about, as they love adding sauce.
Arthur Dunger
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I thought that he accepted the penalty, not sure if he admitted the inappropriate touching of a woman.
dogs105
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He and the club signed off on the statement
Arthur Dunger
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No-one has ever denied that, it's the language that has been used by a VERY biased reporter which will hurt SPP for the rest of his career and from all which has been released it appears to not be justified but just out of spite as he plays for Port.
